FN Five-seveN opinions

[lslubecki]

I just bought a FN5.7 pistol. It is crazy light for a full size gun. Shoots the 5.7x28 at 2150 fps out of a 5" barrel. Looks like a mini .223 and can be reloaded with .224 from 28 gr to 55 gr fmj's. Supposed to be very accurate. Any thoughts or comments. I have ammo on the way but haven't shot it yet. Most expensive pistol I have ever bought. Got it for $840 delivered. Factory 20 round mag with a 10 rnd extension available.

Steve

[Mosin_Nagant_Fan]

I wanted one, but $899 + 8.5-10% sales tax made me think, otherwise. I do hear it's a great gun, very accurate and the ammo is "safe", as in it'll hit a man but stop in Sheetrock/wallboard so you won't accidentally shoot your neighbor next door (word of mouth, never tried it).

[ponycar17]

I think it's a nifty concept, but it's not nifty enough for $800+. I read where NJ is already considering, or has already banned the pistol... Those politicians up there need to get a life.

[patrol]

I have shot one and it definately is an ultra modern futuristic concept for a pistol. Shoots screaming hot ammo from a light pistol that has absolutely no recoil (just loud) and shoots 20 plus 1 rounds. I was thinking of getting one but was going to wait and see if price dropped on them. The ammo for L.E. and military will defeat body armor incase you get a crook that resembles that LA Bank robbery but I have a cheap taurus tracker 17HMR that will defeat body armor at half the price. FN makes quality stuff and has been making guns for the military for many years to include colts M16A2's and various machineguns. My dream gun I want one day is the FN 2000.

[lslubecki]

"I think it's a nifty concept, but it's not nifty enough for $800+. I read where NJ is already considering, or has already banned the pistol... Those politicians up there need to get a life."

Thats exactly why I bought it. The SS190 L.E. ammo is already banned and going for $350.00 a box of 50 on *********. Another box went for 250+. Once the gun is banned I fugure it will double in value. The story I hear is it will be banned in a year.

[sarzak]

i think you will be very pleased with this pistol. the only downside is the ammo is pricey so you are limited in the amount of training you can do, its just too expensive. the upside is you can shoot about as accurately as a 22 pistol because of the low recoil and i have a feeling of confidence knowing i get 20 cracks at it. this is the only pistol i carry when carrying a full size. i hope the caliber catches on someday so we have more ammo options, but i doubt it will happen

[lslubecki]

Three of us went in on 4000 rounds through an online auction 1380.00 delivered. That should hold us. I also am goung to get reloading dies the keep the spsent brass full. I shot it at the range this weekend. It was six degrees with a 20 mph wind and at 30 yards was hitting standard target paper and three of 20 were within the black. I was happy. Very little recoil. Light and fun to shoot. Hopefully the weather will warm and the wind will stop. That along with the ice and snow melting.

Steve

[JLA]

its a cute toy, maybe ill get me 1 someday.

[merrill]

Thats exactly why I bought it. The SS190 L.E. ammo is already banned and going for $350.00 a box of 50 on *********. Another box went for 250+. Once the gun is banned I fugure it will double in value. The story I hear is it will be banned in a year.
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Steve
Don't you mean 35.00 and 25.00 for a box of 50? Merrill

[lslubecki]

No. The SS190 is AP and banned from importation now. Only what is here is it. One box of 50 actualy went for over 500.00 and on another auction site a single bullet is going for 10.00 each. Crazy!

Steve

[Taurus_9mm]

I wouldn't mind one if the prices weren't so high but I can't justify paying around $1,000 for one when there are other guns I like as much or more for 1/2 the price.

[hkruss]

Go to Ammoman.com on line. $450 - 1000rds, $850 - 2000rds., delivered, no extra for shipping. Probably wont ship to some states though. Call or e-mail to find out.

[LurpyGeek]

Another old thread back from the dead.

[muddober]

The cartridge will only make those 2100+ fps with with 28 grain bullets which will shoot through a "steel" car bumper. If you stop and think about it a 40 grian bullet is almost 43% heavior than the 28 grain causing the velocity to drop off by about 400 fps. In my opinion the penetration is way to much to be a good defense round and the cartridge was really designed to defeat soft armor. The gun works on a straight blow back and the action is really not locked when the gun is fired making the cases look very funny to the point they will not even begin to go back in the gun without resizing. This brings an new problem if one reloads because the cases will only last about 3 re-loadings before they work harden to the point of being dangerous. The FN 5.7 is a very specialized gun and while fun to experiment with, it is not in my opinion a very practical pistol for guy who needs a good defense gun.

On the plus side the two I shot functioned perfect, both had decent trigger pull, very fast return to target because of low recoil and reasonably accurate.

Ron

[TheGunClinger]

Somewhere I read that it was the gun that Fort Hood Muslamy used. Not sure it was true though. I will have to see if I can find it where I saw it.

[Ranb]

I shot one last year. I had read that it was a $200 gun (poor fit and finish) selling for $900. The one I shot looked and shot well enough, but I thought it was still over priced. The only thing I did not like was the heavy trigger. I will buy one in the future if I can find it at a decent price. I will also make a silencer for it.

Ranb

[muddober]

I would suggest you abandon your silencer building idea because it could fetch you many years in a federal prison.

Ron

[cakes]

Of course, making a silencer is legal, but subsonic ammo for the 5.7 defeats the purpose of it in my eyes.

[muddober]

Originally Posted by cakes

Of course, making a silencer is legal, but subsonic ammo for the 5.7 defeats the purpose of it in my eyes.

cakes, making a silencer is NOT legal.

Ron

[cakes]

It is in Maine. I don't know where you live. Request a Form 1 at ATF.gov.

[Ranb]

Originally Posted by muddober

I would suggest you abandon your silencer building idea because it could fetch you many years in a federal prison.

I do not know where you live, but in the USA, silencers are not banned. Unlicensed ciilians can own them in 37 of the states. While there is a $200 tax to be paid and ATF authorization to be obtained, it is a routine matter and I have never heard of anyone being denied as long as they filled out the paperwork properly.

I make silencers as a hobby and resent it when anyone tells me that my hobby is illegal, especially a person on a gun forum who claims to be a gun owner. If you want to convince people that firearms are are banned at the federal level and not have a good reason for your stupid ideas, then perhaps you should do it at some other forum.

Your suggestion was just plain rude. Where do you get your ideas anyway? Ever think of looking at the law sometime? I'll not be giving up my hobby for a while, and it certainly will not be because of people like you.

Ranb

[Ranb]

Originally Posted by cakes

Of course, making a silencer is legal, but subsonic ammo for the 5.7 defeats the purpose of it in my eyes.

Subsonic loads in the 5.7 is not something I plan on trying.

Ranb

[gdmoody]

Mine came with three 20 round mags. It is a very accurate pistol and it is fun to shoot. I do believe that you will really love the pistol, it is extremely light and very controllable with the 5.7X28 round. I liked the round so much that I bought a custom barrel for my Thompson Contender.

I also reload the 5.7X28 but I don't shoot the reloads in the FiveseveN or the PS-90. The reloads would jam every few shots. I use the reloads in the Contender only. It also is not the easiest cartridge to reload, I had a lot of problems getting the depriming/resizing die set up right. RCBS was very helpful when I called them about the problems I was having.

After I got the die set up correctly, I did a little experiment with the load. I wanted to see how many times I could reload the brass. I took two rounds and and fired them, reloaded those two rounds, fired them again, and reloaded them again, and so on. I reloaded those two pieces of brass eleven times before I got tired of the game and quit, so I can tell you that you can get at least ten reloads from the brass without any problems, at least I did.

[muddober]

Originally Posted by Ranb

I do not know where you live, but in the USA, silencers are not banned. Unlicensed ciilians can own them in 37 of the states. While there is a $200 tax to be paid and ATF authorization to be obtained, it is a routine matter and I have never heard of anyone being denied as long as they filled out the paperwork properly.

I make silencers as a hobby and resent it when anyone tells me that my hobby is illegal, especially a person on a gun forum who claims to be a gun owner. If you want to convince people that firearms are are banned at the federal level and not have a good reason for your stupid ideas, then perhaps you should do it at some other forum.

Your suggestion was just plain rude. Where do you get your ideas anyway? Ever think of looking at the law sometime? I'll not be giving up my hobby for a while, and it certainly will not be because of people like you.

Ranb

Hey slow down there Ranb. You did not qualify your statement when you wrote of making silencers that you were set up to pay and understood the $200.00 tax issue. I would also suggest that you look over some of my 700 + post here before you run off at your key board suggesting I have stupid ideas. I am at home tonight and don't have access to my book on Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, but I will provide you that section tomorrow when I get to my office. My memory is that it is Title 18 section 921 which provides it is a federal offense to manufacture, own or offer for sale or even have any parts to make a silencer, all of which your post implied to me you were doing illegally. I was trying to caution you and not scold you. Also federal law was recently amended to raise the punishment for having an unlicensed silencer from 5 years in prison to 10 years. Which by the way as provided by the sentencing guidelines rules that came into effect on November 1, 1987, eliminated parole in the federal prison system, meaning that anyone sentenced to to ten years only gets 42 days per year knocked off their sentence causing a person getting a ten year stretch to do about 8.5 years of that 10 year sentence. In the old days prior to 1987, one only did about a third of their time and then were paroled. Because of the sentencing guidlines rules, America now has 25% of the entire world's prison population in its jails. When one considers there are about 6 billion people on the planet and only 5% of those live in the US, one does not have to be a rocket scientest to realize that our government is preditory against us citizens. Again I was merely trying to warn you, so you not be one of them.

Ron

[Ranb]

Originally Posted by muddober

Hey slow down there Ranb. You did not qualify your statement when you wrote of making silencers that you were set up to pay and understood the $200.00 tax issue. I would also suggest that you look over some of my 700 + post here before you run off at your key board suggesting I have stupid ideas. I am at home tonight and don't have access to my book on Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure,

Blah blah blah. Why should I have to qualify my statement? Do you warn people not to drive on the road or get married because it is illegal to do so without getting a license? Probably not. So why would you be so rude as to assume that I would break the law when it comes to making a silencer? No one likes a jerk.

Even after another forum member told you silencers were legal in this thread, you continued to insist that they were not. What kind of crap is that? Obtaining ATF authorization for buying or making a silencer is very easy for those of us who live in one of the 37 states that do not ban them. I have never heard of anyone who was denied authorization after properly submitting the forms, have you?

How can a person post over 700 times on this forum (which has a section for title 2 weapons) without getting a clue that silencers are legal in the USA? If you really were trying to caution me, then you would have asked me to ensure I submit ATF form 1 to the BATFE before building a silencer. Because you did not, you are just another person who discourages gun ownership. That is unacceptable behavior here in my opinion.

Ranb