Webley Mark IV - The Firearms Forum

H8tulooze · 03-06-2008, 11:12 PM

Dont know much about it. S/N 106xxx. Not sure if 38 cal or 45?

Value?

http://www.putfile.com/album/180077

Xracer · 03-07-2008, 07:11 AM

Hi H8tulooze....welcome to TFF.

Webley Mk. IV's were confusing....because there were two of 'em. The Mark IV (Mark 4, 1899) in caliber .455 Webley, and the Mark IV (Mark 4, 1942) in caliber .38/200 (.38 Smith & Wesson).

Yours is the Mk.IV (1899) in .455 Webley.

Here's some more info on Webley military revolvers:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg91-e.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/4849/webley.html
http://www.marstar.ca/AssemblyWebley.htm

The Standard Catalog of Military Firearms gives a value of:

Webley Mk.IV (1899):

Exc. - $375
V.G. - $300
Good - 225

If yours locks up tight and has a good bore, I'd say it falls in between the Good to Very Good category....maybe $250 or so.

Alpo · 03-07-2008, 08:09 PM

Might be worth more. It hasn't been shaved, and guns that haven't are hard to find.

H8tulooze · 03-07-2008, 08:30 PM

Thanks for the info. BTW what do you mean by "shaved"?

Xracer · 03-08-2008, 08:29 AM

He means.....had the back of the cylinder shaved so that it could fire .45ACP with 1/2 moon clips.

In the '50's & '60's, many of these older .455 Webleys were imported, but .455 (rimmed) ammo was scarce & expensive. In order to make them more attractive & useable to American shooters, the importers had the back of the cylinders machine shaved so that they'd accepot .45ACP with 1/2 moon clips.

Alpo · 03-08-2008, 09:37 AM

Yep. I know lots of folks with Webleys. And most of them, like mine, have been shaved. Which makes unshaved guns scarce, and therefore more valuable. First time I ever saw one (must have been '74) I fell in love with that ugly thing. Like a bulldog, they are so ugly they are beautiful. And I thought that the machining of the cylinder was a great idea. Couldn't buy it (wasn't old enough). Found one 6 or 7 years ago. Snatched it up real quick before the idiot found out he had it underpriced. I really enjoy it, but I wish it had an unbuggered cylinder.

Alpo · 03-08-2008, 09:45 AM

This Mark V has not been shaved.

This Mark III has.

H8tulooze · 03-08-2008, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the info. So mine is not shaved, how much more value or a total should it bring? I am selling off my collection of guns.

Thanks

Alpo · 03-10-2008, 02:27 PM

H8tulooze, thinking that Xracer's values might be a little low, I asked some people that collect Webleys. They said 5 to 6 hundred, "at least". http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=33041

Might try some better pictures (taken outdoors, in natural light. your flash washed out much of the ones you posted).

H8tulooze · 03-10-2008, 03:59 PM

Will do Alpo, thanks for the info.

milpas · 03-11-2008, 12:06 PM

Joe Salter is offering a IV for 795 Item # 9104. His many pictures should give you a good way to compare yours.

03-06-2008, 11:12 PM	#1
H8tulooze Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31	Webley Mark IV Dont know much about it. S/N 106xxx. Not sure if 38 cal or 45? Value? http://www.putfile.com/album/180077 -->

03-07-2008, 07:11 AM	#2
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	Re: Webley Mark IV Hi H8tulooze....welcome to TFF. Webley Mk. IV's were confusing....because there were two of 'em. The Mark IV (Mark 4, 1899) in caliber .455 Webley, and the Mark IV (Mark 4, 1942) in caliber .38/200 (.38 Smith & Wesson). Yours is the Mk.IV (1899) in .455 Webley. Here's some more info on Webley military revolvers: http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg91-e.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/4849/webley.html http://www.marstar.ca/AssemblyWebley.htm The Standard Catalog of Military Firearms gives a value of: Webley Mk.IV (1899): Exc. - $375 V.G. - $300 Good - 225 If yours locks up tight and has a good bore, I'd say it falls in between the Good to Very Good category....maybe $250 or so.

03-07-2008, 08:09 PM	#3
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: Webley Mark IV Might be worth more. It hasn't been shaved, and guns that haven't are hard to find.

03-07-2008, 08:30 PM	#4
H8tulooze Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31	Re: Webley Mark IV Thanks for the info. BTW what do you mean by "shaved"?

03-08-2008, 08:29 AM	#5
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	Re: Webley Mark IV He means.....had the back of the cylinder shaved so that it could fire .45ACP with 1/2 moon clips. In the '50's & '60's, many of these older .455 Webleys were imported, but .455 (rimmed) ammo was scarce & expensive. In order to make them more attractive & useable to American shooters, the importers had the back of the cylinders machine shaved so that they'd accepot .45ACP with 1/2 moon clips.

03-08-2008, 09:37 AM	#6
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: Webley Mark IV Yep. I know lots of folks with Webleys. And most of them, like mine, have been shaved. Which makes unshaved guns scarce, and therefore more valuable. First time I ever saw one (must have been '74) I fell in love with that ugly thing. Like a bulldog, they are so ugly they are beautiful. And I thought that the machining of the cylinder was a great idea. Couldn't buy it (wasn't old enough). Found one 6 or 7 years ago. Snatched it up real quick before the idiot found out he had it underpriced. I really enjoy it, but I wish it had an unbuggered cylinder.

03-08-2008, 09:45 AM	#7
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: Webley Mark IV This Mark V has not been shaved. This Mark III has.

03-08-2008, 09:55 AM	#8
H8tulooze Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31	Re: Webley Mark IV Thanks for the info. So mine is not shaved, how much more value or a total should it bring? I am selling off my collection of guns. Thanks

03-10-2008, 02:27 PM	#9
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: Webley Mark IV H8tulooze, thinking that Xracer's values might be a little low, I asked some people that collect Webleys. They said 5 to 6 hundred, "at least". http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=33041 Might try some better pictures (taken outdoors, in natural light. your flash washed out much of the ones you posted).

03-10-2008, 03:59 PM	#10
H8tulooze Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31	Re: Webley Mark IV Will do Alpo, thanks for the info.

03-11-2008, 12:06 PM	#11
milpas Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12	Re: Webley Mark IV Joe Salter is offering a IV for 795 Item # 9104. His many pictures should give you a good way to compare yours.