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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pace, Florida area
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"English Only" would mean I would no longer have to punch one on the telephone
for English. If the aliens wish to reap the benefits of our social system they should learn to speak english when they ask for these benefits. http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/gue...rs_0623p.shtml The Case For English Only By Harris R. Sherline June 23, 2008 Enough already! How many languages should we be expected to speak in America? And, how many languages should our government and other institutions, such as hospitals and schools, be required to accommodate? The problem is not just Spanish speakers. It's the more than 320 other tongues that are spoken in America today. Hispanics now comprise about 35% of the population of California, many of whom do not speak English. So, should we be required to print all government documents in both English and Spanish, teach school in Spanish, give civil service exams in Spanish, hire people who don't speak English? But, it's not just about communication, although that's certainly important. It's also a pocketbook issue, about the economic impact that trying to accommodate multiple languages has on our society. Alameda County (CA) Medical Center, which "has 18 full-time interpreters or staff in addition to 19 on-call translators," is but one example of the burden that such laws can place on public institutions. U.S. English, Inc. offers some interesting facts about the situation: -- "Since 1980, the number of U.S. residents who are limited English proficient has more than doubled, from 10.2 million to 21.3 million." (Source: U.S. Census Bureau) -- "In 2000, 11.9 million U.S. residents lived in linguistically isolated households, meaning that no one in the household spoke English at home or spoke English 'very well.'" (Source: U.S. Census Bureau) -- "Immigrants who speak English 'not well' or 'not at all' have median weekly earnings approximately 57 percent of those of U.S. born workers." -- "Poverty and the need for public benefits, such as food stamps, are more closely related to limited English proficiency than with citizenship or legal status." -- "The Canadian Government spends $260 million annually to do government business in both of the nation's official languages." -- "The cost of multilingual ballots and translations represented one-eighth of Los Angeles County's $16 million expense in the Nov. 2004 general election." -- "The City of San Francisco must spend $350,000 for each language that a document is translated into under the city's bilingual government ordinance." -- "79 percent of Americans, and 81 percent of first and second generation Americans favor making English the official language of the United States." -- "Air Canada spends more than $9,265,000 per year conforming to Canada's bilingual requirements, requiring the airline to generate an additional $185,000,000 in additional sales to cover these costs." Trying to accommodate all cultural groups costs big bucks. For example, the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences reported in 1997, "More than $100 million have been spent in the last 30 years to assess the value of bilingual education. The study concluded: (1) There is no evidence that a program of native language instruction has greater benefits than any other type of education program, and (2) Teaching children to read in English first, instead of in their native tongue, has no negative consequences." The federal government was already spending $665 million a year on bilingual programs at the time. President Theodore Roosevelt addressed this issue in 1907 when he said, "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." "The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey reveals that 83% of likely voters place a higher priority on encouraging immigrants to speak English as their primary language." ("English-First Still Favored By Most Americans," Wall Street Journal, June 7, 2008). So, what is the "English Only" movement all about? Quite simply, it's about making English the official language of the United States. A bill to accomplish this (H.R. 997) was introduced in the House of Representatives in 2007, and U.S. English, Inc. reports that it is supported by more than 80%of all Americans and almost two-thirds of Hispanics, according to polls taken in 2006. Thirty states already have some sort of English only law and, to my knowledge, it hasn't had any significant negative impacts in any of them. "The English Language Unity Act of 2007 would require the United States government to conduct official business in English," while still retaining the flexibility to permit or require that other languages be used to protect public health and safety, national security, or for the needs of commerce and the criminal justice system. I'm all for it.
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: moses lake washington
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i agree,if they want the american way and benifits,SPEAK ENGLISH or get the hell out! this sticker is on the back of my bike and hard hat.
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Washington State
Posts: 517
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I am very tired of immigrants from all over the world flocking to our shores seeking a better life for themselves and then, once here, start complaining about our country not accommodating them to the extent they wish. I would liken this to being invited to a friend's home for dinner and then complaining about what they served.
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Former Guest
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Moses Lake, WA
Posts: 10,344
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If you want my money, ask in English.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 7,857
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Quote:
This is exactly why I put that VVVVVVVV on as my sig.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Iberia, Louisiana
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I would be happy if they at least showed some interest in learning English. I believe most of these aliens use their lack of English speaking skills as an excuse to get sympathy and compassion from the gullible.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Perth western australia
Posts: 1,436
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An interesting post. We have the same problems here in Aus, but at keast we have English as our "official" language in so far as it is written that all Goverment and legal buisness shall be conducted in English.
We have intoduced new immigration requirments in the last couple of years that require the wannabe to complete a test on basic Australian culture in English. It's a very simple test, but it does mean that they have shown willing to try and that they understand the fundamentals of our culture. But we still get muslims killing thier daughters for getting pregnant and that sort of thing.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jacksonville, AL
Posts: 1,255
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If you will look around half the stores there are signs in English and spanish. Nothing like encouraging them to sneak across the border.
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 22
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I agree that English should be mandated to learn
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: U.S of Mexico
Posts: 3
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Hi All!...My first post here even tho I read the forum everyday...Nothing like going to Jack In the Box and ordering a Jumbo Jack and have the Box say, "One Yombo Yak", that be all?...I asked what is a Yombo Yak and the box proceeded to ask me if I'm making fun of his english...I called Mr. Box and he gave me a $50.00 gift certificate...Oh well
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs.
Posts: 2,948
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I just helped a Soldier get his INS stuff straight.
He's been in the US from Mexico sinse 1994. His alien stutus expired while he was in training and his exension he started earlier still never arrived. Very good guy. A real asset to his job. I learned a lot helping him. Long story short....the INS forms the Army provided him would have cost $900 to re-apply to become a citizen. We managed to do it for $20...counting passport photos and fee for sending registered mail. But $900? I had no idea. One form cost $500 by itself!! And my experience with INS, just trying to get things done (it has a different name but I still call it that) was that it sucks bad.
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