Titan 25 - The Firearms Forum

charwosbb · 07-21-2008, 04:25 PM

I have recently acquired a 25-caliber semi-automatic handgun. I would like to find out the approximate age and estimated value of this pistol. It is square framed with plastic removable handgrip covers. It has F.I.E. corp.-Miami, Florida on right side of frame-body below barrel. <TITAN> CAL. 25 PAT. PEN. on left side of slide. Left side frame-body serial# 202-series.Left side front of trigger guard is stamped a numeric 0. It is 4 3/4" from top-end of handgrip to tip of barrel; 3 1/2" from bottom of grip to top of frame; 2 1/2" barrel with slide assembly. Over all condition is about 70% of new.

Erich · 07-21-2008, 08:44 PM

In that condition, it's worth about $75.

There's one in that shape on an auction site right now with the item number 105278262 (this board's software won't let me input the auction site's name). It's starting at $60 . . .

charwosbb · 07-21-2008, 11:25 PM

Thanks for the info, Erich. I really like this little pistol. I'm a small woman and it fits my hand perfectly. It is very accurate. I seem to handle it a great deal better than my H&R 22 Rimfire. I believe it is the difference in the long barrel to the short. I grew up with a father and two brothers that were hunting enthusiasts, but did not start getting into handling firearms myself until recently. Ironically enough, a friend of my husband's also named Eric, is who encouraged this interest.

Erich · 07-22-2008, 08:56 AM

You're most welcome!

They are neat little guns - I like the .25 ACP round a lot more than the .22 LR in small autos for reliability. The .25 both feeds better and ignites more reliably than the .22 LR, in my experience. I managed a gun store for a couple of years between college and law school (lo, now 20 years ago!

), and we sold a number of these FIE Italian imports (well, the parts were imported, and they were assembled in Florida). They were decent little guns - your question got me checking around the web to see what it would cost to pick one up for myself for old time's sake!

Anyway, hope you enjoy it!

Alpo · 07-22-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich

You're most welcome!

They are neat little guns - I like the .25 ACP round a lot more than the .22 LR in small autos for reliability. The .25 both feeds better and ignites more reliably than the .22 LR, in my experience. I managed a gun store for a couple of years between college and law school (lo, now 20 years ago!

), and we sold a number of these FIE Italian imports (well, the parts were imported, and they were assembled in Florida). They were decent little guns - your question got me checking around the web to see what it would cost to pick one up for myself for old time's sake!

Anyway, hope you enjoy it!

It also hits harder, if you are comparing the same size guns (apples to apples), like the Beretta 21 Bobcat, which comes in both calibers.

NanyW · 10-30-2008, 09:55 AM

Hi Erich! I bought a .25 Caliber Titan Automatic Pistol recently. Am totally ignorant of fire arms, but wanted something in my home in case of emergency. I'm 72 and sassy...heh heh. My question is: once one round is fired, do I have to cock the gun again in order to shoot again? or will the bullet re-load itself? Stupid question, I'm sure, but it perplexes me..........any information is appreciated. Thanks, in advance.

graehaven · 10-30-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanyW

Hi Erich! I bought a .25 Caliber Titan Automatic Pistol recently. Am totally ignorant of fire arms, but wanted something in my home in case of emergency. I'm 72 and sassy...heh heh. My question is: once one round is fired, do I have to cock the gun again in order to shoot again? or will the bullet re-load itself? Stupid question, I'm sure, but it perplexes me..........any information is appreciated. Thanks, in advance.

It will automatically cycle the next round to the chamber, hence, semiautomatic operation.

I've attached a photo of the Titan as well.

Alpo · 10-30-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanyW

Hi Erich! I bought a .25 Caliber Titan Automatic Pistol recently. Am totally ignorant of fire arms, but wanted something in my home in case of emergency. I'm 72 and sassy...heh heh. My question is: once one round is fired, do I have to cock the gun again in order to shoot again? or will the bullet re-load itself? Stupid question, I'm sure, but it perplexes me..........any information is appreciated. Thanks, in advance.

I have taught many people to shoot semiauto pistols, and I tell them, "Hold it here, pull this back and it will chamber the round, so you can fire". About 90% of them then ask if they have to pull it back again to chamber the next round. So, not only is it not a stupid question, it is a very common question for the people that are new to shooting.

NanyW · 10-31-2008, 01:39 PM

Thanks for the info, Alpo. And the very kind words. You know, I used to have an inferiority complex years ago, but then I went to a psychiatrist and found out I REALLY was inferior! (No more complex! heh heh)

RichP · 11-25-2008, 09:18 AM

I have an old Titan 25 that I have had since 1969. I have only fired it a few times but it performed well. My issue is that I can't determine how to break it down for cleaning. Is there any source for obtaining break down and cleaning instructions for this piece?

Super Louis · 01-05-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichP

I have an old Titan 25 that I have had since 1969. I have only fired it a few times but it performed well. My issue is that I can't determine how to break it down for cleaning. Is there any source for obtaining break down and cleaning instructions for this piece?

Hey i have a titan 25.. its my favorite gun! so small and reliable!
if u want to break it down..its simple..
of course make sure the mag is out and the chamber is clear, flip the safety switch to safe with the "S" showing..pull the slide to the very rear, hold and pull up..it will slide right off and forward. the recoil spring and spring guide is one piece.. clean and just make sure the safety switch is still on "S" when u put it back..
i hope i was thorough enough..

oddmanout06 · 04-18-2009, 11:47 PM

Hi, I'm new to the site, so bear with me. I was looking up the Titan 25 cal. semi-automatic, as I have one, which was given to me many years ago...forgot I had it, in fact. Found it today. Are the .25 cal bullets hard to find as mine are very old? I also had a person tell me that if bullets are kept in the clip for extended periods, it will ruin the spring in the clip and cause a problem firing? Is this true? How would you know if the spring is sprung? My clip was loaded, which means it has been for several years (though was not in the gun). How can you tell if the chamber is clear?

Thanks for any and all pointers.

Bill DeShivs · 04-19-2009, 01:28 AM

Your ammunition is probably fine, as is your magazine (it's not a clip.) Springs don't wear out.

okeeemt · 04-19-2009, 09:49 AM

Believe it or not they say it's better to kep the magazine loaded. then to keep it empty

oddmanout06 · 04-19-2009, 05:17 PM

Thanks, okeeemt. I'm glad to hear this. I thought it sounded a bit counter-productive to have to ask an intruder to wait while you put ammo in the mag.

oddmanout06 · 04-19-2009, 05:18 PM

I hope so. You can tell I'm just learning the firearm lingo.

Thanks for your reply, Bill.

Teejay9 · 04-19-2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanyW

Thanks for the info, Alpo. And the very kind words. You know, I used to have an inferiority complex years ago, but then I went to a psychiatrist and found out I REALLY was inferior! (No more complex! heh heh)

Great line, Nany

. I'd rather put my faith in a .22 lr. Much more accurate and much more range. My first auto was a Titan .25, circa 1973. Had it, carried it, but it was replaced by a .22 PPK/s. Much more intimidating

. Looking into a Beretta Cheetah for carrying purposes. Once again, great line. TJ

609mpr502 · 08-27-2009, 02:56 PM

i was wondering where can i purchase a magazine for my titan here in the louisville, ky area?

Hammerslagger · 08-28-2009, 08:50 AM

Most if not all FIE Titan, Exam, Targa 25 ACP pocket pistols were made by the Italian firm of F. Tanfogilo, a post WW II Italian reconstruction venture. They are still in business and workmanship quality is often very good in more recent years over a wide product range sold under several brand names including EAA.

While of basic Walther frame/barrel design, these pocket pistols have several engineering changes over the years and workmanship is functional but often rough. The firing pin is likely of direct strike design. The safety is a simple trigger block.

This pistol is best carried with a loaded magazine and an empty chamber. I do not consider is prudent to carry with a round in chamber. One can likely draw and "rack the action" faster than fumbling with the 180 degree safety leaver.

Replacement magazines fit can be unpredictable from gun to gun. TripleK likely makes and has them in stock, guaranteed to fit and work. Also likely available from e-GunParts.com.

jondar · 09-01-2009, 08:24 AM

Quote: "The pistol is best carried with a loaded magazine and empty chamber."

I agree with this 100%. I think the Titan is a striked fired weapon and I never could bring myself to carry one in the chamber with this type of pistol. I have a Beretta Model 418, which is a very nicely made gun, and I have tested it several times, unloaded of course and grips removed, by dropping it on the carpet from different heights with the striker in the cocked position. and the safety both off and on and it never released. However; I still leave the chamber empty and the mag loaded, remembering Murphy's Law.

jondar · 09-01-2009, 12:37 PM

In re-reading the posts and seeing the picture of the Titan, I can see it's not a striker fired pistol. I don't know if this makes it safer carrying loaded or not. Maybe it has a safety where you can carry it with the hammer back, safety on.

AnthemBassMan · 10-20-2009, 02:37 PM

-Hey there. New member here, just joined today. I also have the FIE E28 .25ACP pistol. It's a nice little pistol that is fairly accurate for what is intended. I just fired it today after "rediscovering" it hidden it's case in the closet. I was bouncing a pop can around from about 20 feet pretty regularly. I still have a couple boxes of the generic Winchester ammo that I bought probably around 1990. Fired just fine.

-I don't know what I was thinking back then, but I removed all of the bluing from the frame and left it on the slide. That with the "walnut" grips looked good to me back then. Maybe I'll reblue the frame or maybe I'll just leave it like it is. Who knows....

L8R,
Matt

slikwillie · 02-23-2010, 08:41 PM

SPRINGS WILL WEAKEN SO DO LEAVE ONE ROUND OUT OF MAGAZINE TO PROLONG SPRING STRENGTH.
SLIKWILLIE

Bill DeShivs · 02-25-2010, 01:04 AM

Springs don't lose strength.

Alpo · 02-25-2010, 08:07 AM

They do, but it's from being worked - from being compressed and released. Completely full magazine, completely empty magazine, magazine with two round in it. Doesn't matter. Can sit for years like that and won't do a thing to the springs.

07-21-2008, 04:25 PM	#1
charwosbb Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: St. Louis, Missouri. Posts: 4	Titan 25 I have recently acquired a 25-caliber semi-automatic handgun. I would like to find out the approximate age and estimated value of this pistol. It is square framed with plastic removable handgrip covers. It has F.I.E. corp.-Miami, Florida on right side of frame-body below barrel. <TITAN> CAL. 25 PAT. PEN. on left side of slide. Left side frame-body serial# 202-series.Left side front of trigger guard is stamped a numeric 0. It is 4 3/4" from top-end of handgrip to tip of barrel; 3 1/2" from bottom of grip to top of frame; 2 1/2" barrel with slide assembly. Over all condition is about 70% of new. -->

07-21-2008, 08:44 PM	#2
Erich V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM USA - 6000' above sea level Posts: 59	Re: Titan 25 In that condition, it's worth about $75. There's one in that shape on an auction site right now with the item number 105278262 (this board's software won't let me input the auction site's name). It's starting at $60 . . . Last edited by Erich; 07-21-2008 at 08:47 PM.. Reason: To add auction site reference

07-21-2008, 11:25 PM	#3
charwosbb Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: St. Louis, Missouri. Posts: 4	Re: Titan 25 Thanks for the info, Erich. I really like this little pistol. I'm a small woman and it fits my hand perfectly. It is very accurate. I seem to handle it a great deal better than my H&R 22 Rimfire. I believe it is the difference in the long barrel to the short. I grew up with a father and two brothers that were hunting enthusiasts, but did not start getting into handling firearms myself until recently. Ironically enough, a friend of my husband's also named Eric, is who encouraged this interest.

07-22-2008, 08:56 AM	#4
Erich V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM USA - 6000' above sea level Posts: 59	Re: Titan 25 You're most welcome! They are neat little guns - I like the .25 ACP round a lot more than the .22 LR in small autos for reliability. The .25 both feeds better and ignites more reliably than the .22 LR, in my experience. I managed a gun store for a couple of years between college and law school (lo, now 20 years ago! ), and we sold a number of these FIE Italian imports (well, the parts were imported, and they were assembled in Florida). They were decent little guns - your question got me checking around the web to see what it would cost to pick one up for myself for old time's sake! Anyway, hope you enjoy it!

10-30-2008, 09:55 AM	#6
NanyW Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	Re: Titan 25 Hi Erich! I bought a .25 Caliber Titan Automatic Pistol recently. Am totally ignorant of fire arms, but wanted something in my home in case of emergency. I'm 72 and sassy...heh heh. My question is: once one round is fired, do I have to cock the gun again in order to shoot again? or will the bullet re-load itself? Stupid question, I'm sure, but it perplexes me..........any information is appreciated. Thanks, in advance.

10-31-2008, 01:39 PM	#9
NanyW Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	Re: Titan 25 Thanks for the info, Alpo. And the very kind words. You know, I used to have an inferiority complex years ago, but then I went to a psychiatrist and found out I REALLY was inferior! (No more complex! heh heh)

11-25-2008, 09:18 AM	#10
RichP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1	Re: Titan 25 I have an old Titan 25 that I have had since 1969. I have only fired it a few times but it performed well. My issue is that I can't determine how to break it down for cleaning. Is there any source for obtaining break down and cleaning instructions for this piece?

04-18-2009, 11:47 PM	#12
oddmanout06 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Titan 25 Hi, I'm new to the site, so bear with me. I was looking up the Titan 25 cal. semi-automatic, as I have one, which was given to me many years ago...forgot I had it, in fact. Found it today. Are the .25 cal bullets hard to find as mine are very old? I also had a person tell me that if bullets are kept in the clip for extended periods, it will ruin the spring in the clip and cause a problem firing? Is this true? How would you know if the spring is sprung? My clip was loaded, which means it has been for several years (though was not in the gun). How can you tell if the chamber is clear? Thanks for any and all pointers.

04-19-2009, 01:28 AM	#13
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,469	Re: Titan 25 Your ammunition is probably fine, as is your magazine (it's not a clip.) Springs don't wear out. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

04-19-2009, 09:49 AM	#14
okeeemt V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: okeechobee,fl Posts: 81	Re: Titan 25 Believe it or not they say it's better to kep the magazine loaded. then to keep it empty

04-19-2009, 05:17 PM	#15
oddmanout06 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Titan 25 Thanks, okeeemt. I'm glad to hear this. I thought it sounded a bit counter-productive to have to ask an intruder to wait while you put ammo in the mag.

04-19-2009, 05:18 PM	#16
oddmanout06 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Titan 25 I hope so. You can tell I'm just learning the firearm lingo. Thanks for your reply, Bill. Last edited by oddmanout06; 04-19-2009 at 05:19 PM..

08-27-2009, 02:56 PM	#18
609mpr502 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Titan 25 i was wondering where can i purchase a magazine for my titan here in the louisville, ky area?

08-28-2009, 08:50 AM	#19
Hammerslagger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,099	Re: Titan 25 Most if not all FIE Titan, Exam, Targa 25 ACP pocket pistols were made by the Italian firm of F. Tanfogilo, a post WW II Italian reconstruction venture. They are still in business and workmanship quality is often very good in more recent years over a wide product range sold under several brand names including EAA. While of basic Walther frame/barrel design, these pocket pistols have several engineering changes over the years and workmanship is functional but often rough. The firing pin is likely of direct strike design. The safety is a simple trigger block. This pistol is best carried with a loaded magazine and an empty chamber. I do not consider is prudent to carry with a round in chamber. One can likely draw and "rack the action" faster than fumbling with the 180 degree safety leaver. Replacement magazines fit can be unpredictable from gun to gun. TripleK likely makes and has them in stock, guaranteed to fit and work. Also likely available from e-GunParts.com.

09-01-2009, 08:24 AM	#20
jondar V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 458	Re: Titan 25 Quote: "The pistol is best carried with a loaded magazine and empty chamber." I agree with this 100%. I think the Titan is a striked fired weapon and I never could bring myself to carry one in the chamber with this type of pistol. I have a Beretta Model 418, which is a very nicely made gun, and I have tested it several times, unloaded of course and grips removed, by dropping it on the carpet from different heights with the striker in the cocked position. and the safety both off and on and it never released. However; I still leave the chamber empty and the mag loaded, remembering Murphy's Law.

09-01-2009, 12:37 PM	#21
jondar V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 458	Re: Titan 25 In re-reading the posts and seeing the picture of the Titan, I can see it's not a striker fired pistol. I don't know if this makes it safer carrying loaded or not. Maybe it has a safety where you can carry it with the hammer back, safety on.

10-20-2009, 02:37 PM	#22
AnthemBassMan Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tusc. County, Ohio Posts: 5	Re: Titan 25 -Hey there. New member here, just joined today. I also have the FIE E28 .25ACP pistol. It's a nice little pistol that is fairly accurate for what is intended. I just fired it today after "rediscovering" it hidden it's case in the closet. I was bouncing a pop can around from about 20 feet pretty regularly. I still have a couple boxes of the generic Winchester ammo that I bought probably around 1990. Fired just fine. -I don't know what I was thinking back then, but I removed all of the bluing from the frame and left it on the slide. That with the "walnut" grips looked good to me back then. Maybe I'll reblue the frame or maybe I'll just leave it like it is. Who knows.... L8R, Matt

02-23-2010, 08:41 PM	#23
slikwillie Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2	Re: Titan 25 SPRINGS WILL WEAKEN SO DO LEAVE ONE ROUND OUT OF MAGAZINE TO PROLONG SPRING STRENGTH. SLIKWILLIE

02-25-2010, 01:04 AM	#24
Bill DeShivs Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Contributor Posts: 1,469	Re: Titan 25 Springs don't lose strength. __________________ Bill DeShivs www.billdeshivs.com

02-25-2010, 08:07 AM	#25
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,660	Re: Titan 25 They do, but it's from being worked - from being compressed and released. Completely full magazine, completely empty magazine, magazine with two round in it. Doesn't matter. Can sit for years like that and won't do a thing to the springs. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.