ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices - The Firearms Forum

vl.nikolic · 08-19-2008, 12:54 PM

i have to choose between these rifles:

anschutz 1451 (old - from W.Germany => at least 20 yo)
CZ 452 (new)
remington model five (new)

if i choose CZ or anschutz, i can not get any spare parts (because of my location)

have u any advice

thanks

BillP · 08-20-2008, 07:17 PM

What is your location? Would you be able to get parts for the Remington?

Tom · 08-22-2008, 09:59 AM

What is a 1451? Is it a sporter? How many rounds has it had through it? My Anschutz rifles have been target rifles. The 1413 I used through college had so many rounds through it, that it ringed the barrel ahead of the chamber. It needed to have the barrel set back and rechambered. Because the barrel is a shrink fit, this isn't easy with an Anschutz. Clean the barrel of the 1451 and look at the barrel just ahead of the chamber to see if it is ringed. The ring starts as a partial ring, and progresses until the rifling is ablated away forming a ring about 1/8" infront of the chamber.

vl.nikolic · 08-25-2008, 07:28 AM

hello people & thanks you for reply

i am in serbia, thus parts for the zastava (remington model 5) i can get easily. this anschutz looks like model 1416 that is available now (i look at the anschutz site)

BillP · 08-26-2008, 10:57 AM

The Remington Md. 5 looks like a good solid weapon but I have no personal experience with it. I have an Anchutz .22 as well as a CZ 452 in .17. I love both of these firearms for the quality and accuracy. Availability of firearm parts is a hit and miss thing around the world. Just because you can't order parts through a store doesn't mean they aren't available. Find a gunsmith and or smallbore gun club and ask. The CZ452 has been around for a long time under several names (try BRNO) and I find it hard to believe that parts aren't available in your part of the world.

Also, a gunsmith isn't like a repair man for electronic devices who thinks only in terms of swapping a new off the shelf component for a defective one. A gunsmith can repair a broken part or fabricate a new one. Springs and other parts that frequently break can be found or made.

The Md. 5 looks good to me but if you have your hart set on one of the others I would go for that one.

Tom · 08-26-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vl.nikolic

hello people & thanks you for reply

i am in serbia, thus parts for the zastava (remington model 5) i can get easily. this anschutz looks like model 1416 that is available now (i look at the anschutz site)

The 1416 is the 64 action. It should be good. Don't know about the Remington model 5.

Erich · 08-29-2008, 10:56 AM

Shot an old Anschütz in college, and have never liked another .22 as well.

08-19-2008, 12:54 PM	#1
vl.nikolic Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2	ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices i have to choose between these rifles: anschutz 1451 (old - from W.Germany => at least 20 yo) CZ 452 (new) remington model five (new) if i choose CZ or anschutz, i can not get any spare parts (because of my location) have u any advice thanks -->

08-20-2008, 07:17 PM	#2
BillP V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: On a lake near Detroit Lakes, MN Posts: 192	Re: ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices What is your location? Would you be able to get parts for the Remington?

08-22-2008, 09:59 AM	#3
Tom V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 197	Re: ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices What is a 1451? Is it a sporter? How many rounds has it had through it? My Anschutz rifles have been target rifles. The 1413 I used through college had so many rounds through it, that it ringed the barrel ahead of the chamber. It needed to have the barrel set back and rechambered. Because the barrel is a shrink fit, this isn't easy with an Anschutz. Clean the barrel of the 1451 and look at the barrel just ahead of the chamber to see if it is ringed. The ring starts as a partial ring, and progresses until the rifling is ablated away forming a ring about 1/8" infront of the chamber.

08-25-2008, 07:28 AM	#4
vl.nikolic Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2	Re: ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices hello people & thanks you for reply i am in serbia, thus parts for the zastava (remington model 5) i can get easily. this anschutz looks like model 1416 that is available now (i look at the anschutz site)

08-26-2008, 10:57 AM	#5
BillP V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: On a lake near Detroit Lakes, MN Posts: 192	Re: ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices The Remington Md. 5 looks like a good solid weapon but I have no personal experience with it. I have an Anchutz .22 as well as a CZ 452 in .17. I love both of these firearms for the quality and accuracy. Availability of firearm parts is a hit and miss thing around the world. Just because you can't order parts through a store doesn't mean they aren't available. Find a gunsmith and or smallbore gun club and ask. The CZ452 has been around for a long time under several names (try BRNO) and I find it hard to believe that parts aren't available in your part of the world. Also, a gunsmith isn't like a repair man for electronic devices who thinks only in terms of swapping a new off the shelf component for a defective one. A gunsmith can repair a broken part or fabricate a new one. Springs and other parts that frequently break can be found or made. The Md. 5 looks good to me but if you have your hart set on one of the others I would go for that one.

08-29-2008, 10:56 AM	#7
Erich V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM USA - 6000' above sea level Posts: 59	Re: ugh, must choose between .22 LR rifle, 3 choices Shot an old Anschütz in college, and have never liked another .22 as well.