Kel-Tec SU-16 legal in CA?

[smashitup]

I recently bought a Kel-Tec Su-16 from a friend at work. He is a collector and said it has never been fired. So I bought it for $500 with a red dot scope 3 clips and 100 rounds of ammo. I think this is a fair deal price wise. We are going to the guns shop soon to transfer ownership. My question is though, since I live in California and since Kel-Tec now makes a newer SU-16CA(legal in CA version ..solid stock) can I even get this rifle transfered to my name? Since the older version isn't the CA model. He purchased the Kel-Tec maybe in 2002ish in California.

[LDBennett]

smashitup:

There were two laws that apply to Assualt Weapons (AW), as I understand it. The first addressed specific named guns and the Kel-Tek is not named. The second list generic characteristics to define an AW rifle:

Semi-automatic
Centerfire
Capacity to accept a detachable magazine

And any one of the following:
pistol grip
thumbhole sotck
folding or telescopic stock
granade or flare launcher
a flash suppressor
forward pistol grip

In addition:
Semi-automatic
Centerfire
Magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds

Also:
Semi-automatic
Centerfire
Overall length under 30 inches

Penal code 12276.1

Note: bayonents and bayonet lugs are NOT AW chacteristic under CA law.

For more details go to:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/awguide/awguide.php

Also the web site below is a gun forum for Californians and can help in understanding CA law for firearms:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php


LDBennett

[smashitup]

thanks for all the info

[w_houle]

I don't see how the su-16 would qualify as a folding stock due to it being inoperable with the stock folded. It may not be the way California may see it, so ymmv.

[LDBennett]

w_houle:

The law in California is black and white with no room for common sense. If it says no folding stock it means exactly that. What is possible is to get an interpretation of the law in writing for your specific gun (if someone else has not already done that) and carry that proof with you at all times you have the gun with you. COPs are not lawyers and follow the law exactly. While common sense may tell you the gun is legal with the folding stock the COP probably will not consider your opinion or use common sense and confiscate the gun and charge you. With the official legal opinion (from the DOJ or Attorney General) in your hands there is no argument and if the COP doesn't believe the letter get his supervisor on the scene to interpretate the letter for him. You may still have problems only solved in a court of law.

I know its all stupid but until we change the legal system to recognise common sense, its all we have. It used to but the law but has become a game for the legal system today.

LDBennett

[chrislind2]

WOW, everyday I thank God I live in Oregon! I will hug my legal "assault" rifle with the 40 round magazine and count my blessings, and enjoy it while I still live in a state that hasn't yet thrown out the second amendment.