What's the deal with MidwayUSA? - The Firearms Forum

gobble · 01-01-2009, 08:18 PM

I was told to buy supplies from Midway USA. I look at their website and they don't even have something simple like small rifle primers. Every single primer they list is "out of stock, no backorder". Does anyone know what is up with them? Where else to buy with the best prices?

DKA · 01-01-2009, 09:02 PM

Graf & Sons, and they pay for shipping.

oneounceload · 01-01-2009, 09:42 PM

unless you're buying in bulk quantities, try your local gun shop - the hazmat fees get ridiculous otherwise; or go in on a bulk buy with friends - they;ll usually ship 25,000 for a single fee

cycloneman · 01-01-2009, 10:58 PM

thanks to the pres elect for your problems finding reloading components. if you havent heard there is talk about primers that only last 6 months. There is a company that has applied for the patient. If the officials have their way your bullets will be coded also in the future. Primers and components are hard to find. It took me two weeks constantly checking for small rifle primers before I found some and Midway sold out in no time.

here are some other sites you can try.

http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|284

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/

http://www.tntreloading.com/

http://e-reloading.com/

bluesea112 · 01-01-2009, 11:24 PM

Midway irritates me as well. Try www.natchezss.com
Natchezss.com is usually less expensive than Midway, and they actually keep their merchandise stocked.

There is no getting around the 20.00 hazmat fee. It is as rediculous as it is stupid. There is no hazmat fee when you buy loaded ammo, but if you take the ammo apart you have to pay a 20.00 hazmat fee.....total insanity. If you purchase black powder, you have to pay a seperate 20.00 hazmat fee, so you end up paying an extra $40.00 in hazmat fees if you buy 209 primers and a can of black powder in the same order.

You might try one of the popular gun auction sites when you are shopping for primers and/or powder. Sometimes you can find individuals who run a business out of their home and do not charge the rediculous hazmat fees.

carver · 01-02-2009, 09:33 AM

Another choice is to find a gun show. You could drive 100 miles for what it would cost you to ship and pay for hazmat fees.

oneounceload · 01-02-2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Sometimes you can find individuals who run a business out of their home and do not charge the rediculous hazmat fees.

The hazmat fee is charged by the carrier, not the seller.

vendors will ship up to 25,000 primers and 2-8# powder jugs for one hazmat fee in a single box

Contenderizer · 01-02-2009, 04:11 PM

Midway p----d me off and I stopped using them. For 6 months they kept advertising a bullet I wanted (in their flier), but each time I went to their website to order, they said they were out of stock and not taking back orders. I sent them an email asking why they continued to advertise something they never had in stock - but my email was never answered. Graf & Sons took care of the problem.

I think Midway may be going through some growing pains as they appear to be out-of-touch. Too bad, they once were quite good.

thomas44 · 01-02-2009, 04:49 PM

They've been pissing me off for about a year now, so I don't blame this one on Obama. I've had very good luck with midsouth. And, believe it or not (I thought they'd be expensive) Cabela's is reasonable if you get their card-you get $20 off a hundo or $30 off a hundo and a half, plus they ship lightning fast.

gaowlpoop · 01-02-2009, 06:43 PM

Midway is terrible when it comes to shipping. You order a bunch of stuff, half of it is on back order. An item comes in, they ship it and charge you $6 or $7. Next item comes in, same thing, and that is on items that are only $4 or $5!

I quite using them.

Haligan · 01-05-2009, 06:50 PM

This is just the beginning boys !!! We're really in for it.

ms6852 · 01-05-2009, 08:20 PM

I ordered 4 magazines from brownells because midway had theirs on backorder. Glad I bought the mags for my 513T from brownells because it turned out to be $11.00 plus change per mag. Overall I saved about 10 bucks. I also ordered 2 ammo box holders from cheaper than dirt because theirs was $14 and change per box and Cheaper than dirt had them for $9.99. I asked them to match the price they had with those of Cheaper than dirt and Midway refused to do so. I ended up saving another 12 bucks in shipping and merchandise.

JLA · 01-05-2009, 10:09 PM

supply is drying up fellas, demand has far exceeded supply, buy what you can find and afford now. we cant keep ARs or AKs in the gun shop, any thing para-military is selling like hot cakes, and reloading components have become hot as well. ammo is being sold by the case, firearms are being purchased in bulk by individual customers, prices are increasing almost daily, and its only getting worse. we are on the eve of another, more elaborate assault weapons ban, which is quite possible to include a 'forceful surrender' of anything covered by the ban. I believe it is said best in the signature of one of our own on this forum: "if it is time to bury them, then it is time to dig them up"

tEN wOLVES · 01-06-2009, 08:03 PM

Sounds like PANIC is setting in, I've seen this happen several times over the years, and the real problem is US, we are creating the shortage by over buying, We all need to take a deep breath and relax a little bit.
Midway USA is no different than any other supplier, and most Company's try to run there inventory down as much as they can at the end of the year, to avoid inventory TAXES, so relax don't over buy, and give these company's that have been good to us all these years a chance to restock.. just my .02 cents worth

tEN wOLVES

Old Sarge · 01-06-2009, 08:47 PM

I have purchased 90% of my re-loading supplies from Midway. I have to agree, when something gets back-ordered, they'll charge you a separate shipping fee. Another gripe,is they have a $25 minimum order. If your order is less than $25, you pay an extra fee. That coupled with the shipping fee makes it hard to swallow.
On the other hand, I phone in my order, and within hours, I'll get an e-mail telling me it is being shipped at that moment, and I do get the order within a few days. Great service, growing pains, due to all the high demands, placed on us by the Prez Elect, I think. Just MHO

artabr · 01-06-2009, 09:01 PM

I haven't bought anything from Midway in years. They got me torked up over some shipping issues. Get friendly with the dealers at the gun shows.
I've been using :
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/
http://www.wideners.com/index.cfm
http://www.grafs.com/
http://www.champchoice.com/index.html
http://www.lockstock.com/default.asp
http://www.sinclairintl.com/index.html

All of the above have given me great service. I haven't used Wideners in a while.

Art

tEN wOLVES · 01-06-2009, 10:46 PM

I don't have stock in Midway USA, but this company has treated me right for years, I've only had a couple complaints, and they made it right, right now I have a new press and several other items that are on back order, about ten of the things I ordered came in just a few days, and I was told that all the back ordered items will be shipped when they all come in and all at the same time to save me the shipping cost, I don't know what more I could ask them to do for me. I'm not mad at them because they ran out of stock, that happens, and it will continue to happen as long as there are people panic buying, which creates shortages and drives up prices because of supply and demand, hopefully people will settle down and things can get back to some degree of normalcy. I can remember in years past, when this type thing happened, and after the supposed treat was over, which there really never was one, people were bringing there just bought rifles and handguns and ammo back to the dealers to get there money back, of course you know what the dealers told them, and the dealers are making BO-CU off all this and some are adding to the problem by telling people to buy all they can get there hands on, of course that's just smart business sense, so until people wake up this may just be the norm for the coming year.

tEN wOLVES

tEN wOLVES · 01-09-2009, 02:01 PM

Howdy Gents

I decided to check out the status on the things I ordered at Midway USA, at some of the other suppliers, GUESS WHAT, they were out too, so I guess Midway isn't so bad after all, personally I never doubted there integrity, Midway USA has always been very helpful to me and has always delivered what and when they said they would. Thank God we have places like this to get our supplies, or guys like me would be out of luck, especially living here in California.Just remember all these company's run there stock down at the end of the year to avoid paying inventory tax, which can amount to a lot of MU-LA, they will be restocking soon and I'm sure they will have the things we're looking for.

tEN wOLVES

RustyFN · 01-10-2009, 08:51 PM

The best prices I have found for powder and primers are at,
http://www.grafs.com/
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/.
Rusty

thomas44 · 01-10-2009, 09:24 PM

Here's another one :
http://armsandammo.com

They actually had my Speer 158 JHP in boxes of 450 that I really like, and everybody else is cleaned out of them.

tEN wOLVES · 01-10-2009, 09:56 PM

Hello Thomas44

Thanks for the link,

I book marked it for the next time, it's always good to have several sources for supplies.

tEN wOLVES

bluesea112 · 01-11-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneounceload

The hazmat fee is charged by the carrier, not the seller.

vendors will ship up to 25,000 primers and 2-8# powder jugs for one hazmat fee in a single box

True, but my point was that some of the guys running a business out of their home will not tell the carrier what is in the package. If the carrier does not know that they are shipping dark and evil primers or powder, then they won't charge you the evil fee.

sewerman · 01-13-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contenderizer

Midway p----d me off and I stopped using them. For 6 months they kept advertising a bullet I wanted (in their flier), but each time I went to their website to order, they said they were out of stock and not taking back orders. I sent them an email asking why they continued to advertise something they never had in stock - but my email was never answered. Graf & Sons took care of the problem.

I think Midway may be going through some growing pains as they appear to be out-of-touch. Too bad, they once were quite good.

i broke my tipton carbon fiber .17 cal cleaing rod 31 dec 08.
i called midway usa the same day. the phone menu wouldn't direct me to customer service so i chose merchandising. this choice somehow connected me with eric, a warehouse worker. i began to explain my dilemma to eric. he listened patiently then toldl me i had the warehouse and there was probably no one there who could me. then eric momentairly left the phone. i could him him speaking to someone near by. seconds later eric returned & said okay lets have your customer #. after looking up my customer # eric found that i had owned the rod for just a little more then two years. he explained that normally the rod warranty was one year. i told him i had bought the rod because it was advertised against breakage with no tme limit mentioned. eric was courteous and professional and said okay wrap it up with a note explaining what we have talked about for a replacement.
yesterday i got a email from midway that my replacement rod will be delivered on the 15jan09. you can't beat customer service like that! this isn't the first time midway has treated me right. i'm fixing to purchase about $350.00 worth of reloading equipment and midway will get my business.
sure you might be able to save a few dollars here or there from someplace else but the customer service is worth more in the long term then a few bucks.

sewerman

tEN wOLVES · 01-13-2009, 10:19 PM

Hello Sewerman

I'm the same way when it comes to loyalty, I know there are others that feel the same way about Midway USA,I was told about them years ago, that they were a good American Family own Company, and they haven't let me down yet, I tend to stay/do business with people that treat me right, and Midway USA has done just that.

tEN wOLVES

gdmoody · 01-14-2009, 01:27 AM

I also purchase most of my reloading "stuff" from Midway and I have never had a complaint that they didn't fix within a few days. I also use Grafs and a place called 10Ring,com but mostly midway. I also thank you thomas44 for the link, I bookmarked it for future use.

ALSO - Since I have a C&R FFL, I get everything I order from Midway at a discount. It is not a huge discount but sometimes it is as much as 10% and every penny saved is all right by me!!

01-01-2009, 08:18 PM	#1
gobble Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 16	What's the deal with MidwayUSA? I was told to buy supplies from Midway USA. I look at their website and they don't even have something simple like small rifle primers. Every single primer they list is "out of stock, no backorder". Does anyone know what is up with them? Where else to buy with the best prices? -->

01-01-2009, 09:02 PM	#2
DKA Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lumberton, NC Posts: 35	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Graf & Sons, and they pay for shipping.

01-01-2009, 09:42 PM	#3
oneounceload Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 38	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? unless you're buying in bulk quantities, try your local gun shop - the hazmat fees get ridiculous otherwise; or go in on a bulk buy with friends - they;ll usually ship 25,000 for a single fee

01-01-2009, 10:58 PM	#4
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,437	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? thanks to the pres elect for your problems finding reloading components. if you havent heard there is talk about primers that only last 6 months. There is a company that has applied for the patient. If the officials have their way your bullets will be coded also in the future. Primers and components are hard to find. It took me two weeks constantly checking for small rifle primers before I found some and Midway sold out in no time. here are some other sites you can try. http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278\|284 http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/ http://www.tntreloading.com/ http://e-reloading.com/

01-01-2009, 11:24 PM	#5
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,262	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Midway irritates me as well. Try www.natchezss.com Natchezss.com is usually less expensive than Midway, and they actually keep their merchandise stocked. There is no getting around the 20.00 hazmat fee. It is as rediculous as it is stupid. There is no hazmat fee when you buy loaded ammo, but if you take the ammo apart you have to pay a 20.00 hazmat fee.....total insanity. If you purchase black powder, you have to pay a seperate 20.00 hazmat fee, so you end up paying an extra $40.00 in hazmat fees if you buy 209 primers and a can of black powder in the same order. You might try one of the popular gun auction sites when you are shopping for primers and/or powder. Sometimes you can find individuals who run a business out of their home and do not charge the rediculous hazmat fees.

01-02-2009, 09:33 AM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,555	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Another choice is to find a gun show. You could drive 100 miles for what it would cost you to ship and pay for hazmat fees. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

01-02-2009, 04:11 PM	#8
Contenderizer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North-Central Florida, USA Posts: 603	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Midway p----d me off and I stopped using them. For 6 months they kept advertising a bullet I wanted (in their flier), but each time I went to their website to order, they said they were out of stock and not taking back orders. I sent them an email asking why they continued to advertise something they never had in stock - but my email was never answered. Graf & Sons took care of the problem. I think Midway may be going through some growing pains as they appear to be out-of-touch. Too bad, they once were quite good. __________________ NOTE: The information herein is provided free of charge. In some instances, you may actually be getting your money's worth. Author of: The History and Guns of Simson & Co., Suhl www.cornellpubs.com

01-02-2009, 04:49 PM	#9
thomas44 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 577	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? They've been pissing me off for about a year now, so I don't blame this one on Obama. I've had very good luck with midsouth. And, believe it or not (I thought they'd be expensive) Cabela's is reasonable if you get their card-you get $20 off a hundo or $30 off a hundo and a half, plus they ship lightning fast. __________________ Change...it's all you'll have left in your pocket by 2013.

01-02-2009, 06:43 PM	#10
gaowlpoop V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 162	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Midway is terrible when it comes to shipping. You order a bunch of stuff, half of it is on back order. An item comes in, they ship it and charge you $6 or $7. Next item comes in, same thing, and that is on items that are only $4 or $5! I quite using them. __________________ Steven The "news media" has ceased being the watch dog of the people and has become the apologist for an irresponsible government.

01-05-2009, 06:50 PM	#11
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? This is just the beginning boys !!! We're really in for it. __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson

01-05-2009, 08:20 PM	#12
ms6852 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 161	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? I ordered 4 magazines from brownells because midway had theirs on backorder. Glad I bought the mags for my 513T from brownells because it turned out to be $11.00 plus change per mag. Overall I saved about 10 bucks. I also ordered 2 ammo box holders from cheaper than dirt because theirs was $14 and change per box and Cheaper than dirt had them for $9.99. I asked them to match the price they had with those of Cheaper than dirt and Midway refused to do so. I ended up saving another 12 bucks in shipping and merchandise.

01-05-2009, 10:09 PM	#13
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,412	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? supply is drying up fellas, demand has far exceeded supply, buy what you can find and afford now. we cant keep ARs or AKs in the gun shop, any thing para-military is selling like hot cakes, and reloading components have become hot as well. ammo is being sold by the case, firearms are being purchased in bulk by individual customers, prices are increasing almost daily, and its only getting worse. we are on the eve of another, more elaborate assault weapons ban, which is quite possible to include a 'forceful surrender' of anything covered by the ban. I believe it is said best in the signature of one of our own on this forum: "if it is time to bury them, then it is time to dig them up" __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-06-2009, 08:03 PM	#14
tEN wOLVES V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 174	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Sounds like PANIC is setting in, I've seen this happen several times over the years, and the real problem is US, we are creating the shortage by over buying, We all need to take a deep breath and relax a little bit. Midway USA is no different than any other supplier, and most Company's try to run there inventory down as much as they can at the end of the year, to avoid inventory TAXES, so relax don't over buy, and give these company's that have been good to us all these years a chance to restock.. just my .02 cents worth tEN wOLVES

01-06-2009, 08:47 PM	#15
Old Sarge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 12	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? I have purchased 90% of my re-loading supplies from Midway. I have to agree, when something gets back-ordered, they'll charge you a separate shipping fee. Another gripe,is they have a $25 minimum order. If your order is less than $25, you pay an extra fee. That coupled with the shipping fee makes it hard to swallow. On the other hand, I phone in my order, and within hours, I'll get an e-mail telling me it is being shipped at that moment, and I do get the order within a few days. Great service, growing pains, due to all the high demands, placed on us by the Prez Elect, I think. Just MHO

01-06-2009, 09:01 PM	#16
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? I haven't bought anything from Midway in years. They got me torked up over some shipping issues. Get friendly with the dealers at the gun shows. I've been using : http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/ http://www.wideners.com/index.cfm http://www.grafs.com/ http://www.champchoice.com/index.html http://www.lockstock.com/default.asp http://www.sinclairintl.com/index.html All of the above have given me great service. I haven't used Wideners in a while. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

01-06-2009, 10:46 PM	#17
tEN wOLVES V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 174	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? I don't have stock in Midway USA, but this company has treated me right for years, I've only had a couple complaints, and they made it right, right now I have a new press and several other items that are on back order, about ten of the things I ordered came in just a few days, and I was told that all the back ordered items will be shipped when they all come in and all at the same time to save me the shipping cost, I don't know what more I could ask them to do for me. I'm not mad at them because they ran out of stock, that happens, and it will continue to happen as long as there are people panic buying, which creates shortages and drives up prices because of supply and demand, hopefully people will settle down and things can get back to some degree of normalcy. I can remember in years past, when this type thing happened, and after the supposed treat was over, which there really never was one, people were bringing there just bought rifles and handguns and ammo back to the dealers to get there money back, of course you know what the dealers told them, and the dealers are making BO-CU off all this and some are adding to the problem by telling people to buy all they can get there hands on, of course that's just smart business sense, so until people wake up this may just be the norm for the coming year. tEN wOLVES

01-09-2009, 02:01 PM	#18
tEN wOLVES V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 174	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Howdy Gents I decided to check out the status on the things I ordered at Midway USA, at some of the other suppliers, GUESS WHAT, they were out too, so I guess Midway isn't so bad after all, personally I never doubted there integrity, Midway USA has always been very helpful to me and has always delivered what and when they said they would. Thank God we have places like this to get our supplies, or guys like me would be out of luck, especially living here in California.Just remember all these company's run there stock down at the end of the year to avoid paying inventory tax, which can amount to a lot of MU-LA, they will be restocking soon and I'm sure they will have the things we're looking for. tEN wOLVES Last edited by tEN wOLVES; 01-09-2009 at 02:06 PM..

01-10-2009, 08:51 PM	#19
RustyFN Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 598	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? The best prices I have found for powder and primers are at, http://www.grafs.com/ http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/. Rusty

01-10-2009, 09:24 PM	#20
thomas44 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 577	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Here's another one : http://armsandammo.com They actually had my Speer 158 JHP in boxes of 450 that I really like, and everybody else is cleaned out of them. __________________ Change...it's all you'll have left in your pocket by 2013. Last edited by thomas44; 01-10-2009 at 09:25 PM..

01-10-2009, 09:56 PM	#21
tEN wOLVES V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 174	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Hello Thomas44 Thanks for the link, I book marked it for the next time, it's always good to have several sources for supplies. tEN wOLVES

01-13-2009, 10:19 PM	#24
tEN wOLVES V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 174	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? Hello Sewerman I'm the same way when it comes to loyalty, I know there are others that feel the same way about Midway USA,I was told about them years ago, that they were a good American Family own Company, and they haven't let me down yet, I tend to stay/do business with people that treat me right, and Midway USA has done just that. tEN wOLVES

01-14-2009, 01:27 AM	#25
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,409	Re: What's the deal with MidwayUSA? I also purchase most of my reloading "stuff" from Midway and I have never had a complaint that they didn't fix within a few days. I also use Grafs and a place called 10Ring,com but mostly midway. I also thank you thomas44 for the link, I bookmarked it for future use. ALSO - Since I have a C&R FFL, I get everything I order from Midway at a discount. It is not a huge discount but sometimes it is as much as 10% and every penny saved is all right by me!! __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant) Last edited by gdmoody; 01-15-2009 at 12:11 AM..