Smokeless Ammunition in Trap-Door - The Firearms Forum

CountryGunsmith · 02-23-2003, 11:08 PM

teehee1
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Is it safe to fire commercial Winchester(or other brand)
45/70 ammo in a 1878 Springfield in excellent condition?
Thanx, teehee

LIKTOSHOOT
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I wouldn`t, some do reloads with smokeless powder, but advise others not to do so. LTS

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Agreed.

Loading the black powder cartridges is half the fun of shooting it anyway.

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if it's safe for trapdoors it will state it on the back of the box but jacketed bullets are not kind to those old barrels
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teehee1
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Thanx for the advice and the help, teehee :-)

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teehee1, I shoot a trapdoor. I wondered, and had always heard that the modern jacketed ammo wasn't safe, and it sounds reasonable. Look on the the Remington UMC website, for the number, and call the balistic help desk in MO where the ammo is made, and ask for your self. What they will tell you, Is "the 45-70 Government marked Remmington / UMC ammo is loaded with the rolling block and trapdoors in mind, it is engineered and loaded to be safe for these rifles"! I asked for that statement written, and they faxed it to me. When I get home I'll look for it. I have some friends who still don't believe it even though they've seen the letter.

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CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	Smokeless Ammunition in Trap-Door teehee1 V.I.P. Member Posts: 152 (1/23/02 7:20:23 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del All Safe Ammo for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it safe to fire commercial Winchester(or other brand) 45/70 ammo in a 1878 Springfield in excellent condition? Thanx, teehee LIKTOSHOOT Senior Chief Moderator Staff Posts: 3542 (1/23/02 7:24:39 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: Safe Ammo for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wouldn`t, some do reloads with smokeless powder, but advise others not to do so. LTS AntiqueDr Senior Chief Moderator Staff Posts: 1837 (1/23/02 8:08:30 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del ezSupporter Re: Safe Ammo for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agreed. Loading the black powder cartridges is half the fun of shooting it anyway. We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern! www.apaxenterprises.com Mesen V.I.P. Member Posts: 434 (1/24/02 1:46:54 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: Safe Ammo for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if it's safe for trapdoors it will state it on the back of the box but jacketed bullets are not kind to those old barrels IF YOU VALUE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A VET! teehee1 V.I.P. Member Posts: 154 (1/24/02 7:09:55 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: Safe Ammo for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanx for the advice and the help, teehee :-) Moskovskyya V.I.P. Member Posts: 77 (1/25/02 12:45:04 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: Safe Ammo for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- teehee1, I shoot a trapdoor. I wondered, and had always heard that the modern jacketed ammo wasn't safe, and it sounds reasonable. Look on the the Remington UMC website, for the number, and call the balistic help desk in MO where the ammo is made, and ask for your self. What they will tell you, Is "the 45-70 Government marked Remmington / UMC ammo is loaded with the rolling block and trapdoors in mind, it is engineered and loaded to be safe for these rifles"! I asked for that statement written, and they faxed it to me. When I get home I'll look for it. I have some friends who still don't believe it even though they've seen the letter. -->