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Lafayette Hill, PA – 01/15/09) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States and his case, Berg vs. Obama, in the U.S. Supreme Court is still pending regarding an Application for an Injunction, announced today that he wrote a letter to ‘each’ Member of Congress requesting they call for Congressional Hearings regarding Obama’s lack of qualifications for President due to their failure to question Obama during the Joint Session of Congress for the counting of the Electoral Votes. [A copy of the letter to Congress is at the end of this Release]
Berg said, “I am disappointed for the 300+ million U.S. citizens, our ‘Forefathers’ and for the tens of thousands that have died defending ‘our’ Constitution regarding the recent denial by the U.S. Supreme Court. I am committed to keeping our efforts going to continue litigation until the truth of Obama being ‘not qualified’ for President comes out. The Obama candidacy is the biggest ‘HOAX’ ever put forth to the citizens of the United States in 230 years. In addition to the current case in the U.S. Supreme Court, we have or will have: 1. A case filed two [2] months ago captioned Berg vs. Obama, said case ‘under seal’ so I cannot comment further; 2. The case of Hollister vs. Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama, filed 12/31/08 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Civil Action No. 08-02254; said case being an ‘Interpleader’ case with the Plaintiff, a retired Colonel from the U.S. Air Force, who is questioning whether to obey or disobey an order if Obama recalls him, based upon whether or not Obama is a ‘qualified’ President; 3. The case that was denied in the U.S. Supreme Court is still pending in the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in the case of Berg vs. Obama, with our Brief due by January 20, 2009; and 4. If Obama is sworn in as President, we will file a Petition for Writ of ‘Quo Warranto,’ a case that will challenge Obama as being ineligible to serve as President because he is ‘not qualified.’ Berg states ‘if Soetoro a/k/a Obama is sworn in’ because Obama knows he is ‘not qualified’ and he should hold a Press Conference and Obama should state that I, as a black American, received more votes than anyone else on November 4, 2008 for President and on January 8, 2009 the Joint Session of Congress counted the Electoral College votes and announced that I am President-elect, but because of things in my background, I cannot be sworn in as President. However, Obama is not man enough to state the above! More and more people are aware of the fact that Obama does not meet the constitutional ‘qualifications’ for President. When the truth finally comes out, individuals including Barack Hussein Obama, Michelle Obama, Howard Dean [Chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC)], other top officials of the DNC, senior campaign staff and some of his new administration should be brought into the criminal justice system, indicted and tried with incarceration for those convicted. Berg continued, “Obama is setting himself up to be blackmailed and perhaps he is already being blackmailed. He was the candidate for ‘change,’ but look at his cabinet – 70% from President Clinton’s days and how about his Secretary of Defense, Gates. Give me a break! There is nothing more important than ‘our’ U.S. Constitution and we will fight on!” Accordingly, I wrote the Members of Congress requesting immediate hearings. The letter I sent follows: 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531 January 15, 2009 Dear Member of Congress: It is your duty, as a duly elected representative of the American people; to regain the respect you have lost by your inaction in not vetting Soetoro a/k/a Obama, by calling for a Congressional Hearing ASAP to determine the truth regarding qualifications of Barry Soetoro, otherwise known as Barack Hussein Obama, to be President of the United States. My, my, you and the other Members of Congress just showed your true character, that being, no guts, no backbone and only interested in getting re-elected. I refer to each of you in your lack of action regarding the now President-elect Soetoro/Obama. As you must be aware, there are many unresolved questions concerning Soetoro/Obama’s status or lack thereof, as a ‘natural born’ American citizen, as required by ‘our’ U.S. Constitution. On January 8, 2009, you failed your constituencies, your voters, the citizens in your district, as well as all citizens in our nation. Yes, you failed all of us, the ‘We the People,’ yes, the words that begin our U.S. Constitution. Federal Law, 3 U.S.C. 15 provides a method to challenge the counting of the electoral votes in the Joint Session of Congress. If only one [1] Member of the House and one [1] Member of the Senate announced in writing that they were objecting to the Electorial Vote in any/every state, the counting of the votes would stop and the Joint Session would cease until the House and Senate meet, discussed and voted on each States Electorial Votes. Because of your failure to ‘question’ the eligibility of Soetoro/Obama, we are headed for a ‘Constitutional Crisis.’ Yes, a ‘Constitutional Crisis’ because Soetoro/Obama who appears not to be a ‘natural born’ U.S. citizen is ‘ineligible’ under ‘our’ U.S. Constitution to serve as President. Soetoro/Obama, being ‘ineligible/unqualified’ due to his lack of being ‘natutal born’ means that Obama will be ‘usurping’ the powers of the Office of President of the United States. It will result in every, yes every law that Soetoro/Obama signs, every appointment to an Ambassador or Judgeship, all will be invalid. Soetoro/Obama is setting himself up to be blackmailed, both internally and externally. There are millions of Americans who believe that Soetoro/Obama does not meet the 3rd qualification pursuant to ‘our’ U.S Constitution, that being ‘natural born.’ Soetoro/Obama satisfies the 1st two [2], that being at least thirty-five [35] years of age and lived in the United States for fourteen [14] years. The document that Soetoro/Obama’s people keep pushing on the American public is a fraudulent ‘Certification of Live Birth’ and not a ‘Birth Certificate.’ And significant is the fact that in an attempt to quash the rumors that Soetoro/Obama was not ‘natural born,’ in the Soetoro/Obama campaign web site ‘fightthesmears.com’ in June 2008, they put up this fraudulent ‘Certification of Live Birth’ indicating Soetoro/Obama was born in Hawaii. The fact that Soetoro/Obama has never released his ‘Birth Certificate’ is a very strong indication that he was not born in Hawaii. There is evidence that: 1. Soetoro/Obama was born in Kenya and because of his mother’s age, he was only ‘naturalized.’ 2. Soetoro/Obama was adopted in Indonesia and his legal name became and probably still is ‘Barry Soetoro.’ 3. Obama, otherwise known as ‘Barry Soetoro’ became a ‘natural’ citizen of Indonesia. 4. At age ten [10] Obama returned to Hawaii from Indonesia and: a. If Soetoro/Obama went through U.S. Immigration he would have been given a ’Certification of Citizenship’ indicating he was ‘naturalized.’ b. If, and it is believed that Soetoro/Obama, or rather Barry Soetoro, did not go through U.S. Immigration, then he is an ‘illegal alien’ – not only not qualified/eligible to be Preseident, but also ineligible to have been a U.S. Senator from Illinois. 5. Soetoro/Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 when he was twenty [20] years old on his Indonesia Passport: a. If Soetoro/Obama was a U.S. citizen in 1981, he did an ‘overt’ act against the U.S. by travelling to a nation, Pakistan that was restricted as Pakistan was a non-travel nation. Without truthful information concerning Soetoro/Obama’s eligibility to serve as President, ‘We the People’ have been injured. Our fundamental right to cast an informed vote for an eligible Democratic Presidential candidate has been violated. Further, our First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and association have been violated because we have been robbed of the opportunity to cast our objections through our Representatives to the counting of the Electoral Votes. To redeem yourself, I implore you to call with your Congressional colleagues for a Congressional Hearing and ask the questions that you failed to do regarding President-elect Soetoro/Obama, even after he tries to hide behind the Office of the Presidency, to resolve the issue without question of the citizenship status and qualifications as set forth in ‘our’ U.S. Constitution. Such a procedure has and is occurring regarding the proposed members of the Cabinet. Thank you. Respectfully, Philip J. Berg PJB:jb
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Berg should be ashamed, beating a dead horse in such a manner.
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I can loan him a club if he needs it. I too want to know the truth. All they have to do is check it out and be done with it one way or the other. Just get it over with. I will be surprised if he doesn't do something really stupid soon enough anyway.
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Guys, you can bitch and squirm all you want, but the 'fix is in'.
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I am disgusted and sick that Obama was elected president and I'd love to seem him disqualified for legitimate reasons. However, Bergs letters don't sound all that intelligent or businesslike for an attorney. He seems to be grasping at straws and jumping from one argument to another. As a result I don't have a clue whether he has any real evidence that Obama is not in fact eligible to be president or whether he is just ranting. I guess we can hope.
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If Obama was ousted at this point, a civil war would ensue. The Supreme Court, knowing that, has decided to err on the side of caution rather than on principle - on what is RIGHT. That should tell you where we're headed.
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Very intriguing information. But could the GOP head honchos have been so inept as to have missed all of these "facts" during the run up to the election? They, the GOP, have been famous for their "dirty tricks division" for quite a while. Need I mention "Tricky Dickey"? Would it really make a difference now? Wouldn't his supporters resort to the same reaction ala the L.A. riots after the Rodney King beating? Total chaos would result at this late date. As MRKIRKER stated, "the fix is in." TJ
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Riots, civil war, upheaval?
I laid on a rooftop in LA. I am willing to do so again. USC 10-311 says I am too old to be a part of our militia. Case law concerning age discrimination has brought that into question. Despite that, I consider myself, as an "able-bodied male" still part of our militia and will act accordingly to protect myself, my family, my community and my nation. Pops |
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What!?! A Kennedy, a Clinton, or a Carville lie!?! Never, I say, never. They are too highly intelligent and morally superior to lie, cheat, register dead people,etc. Why, I never heard such talk! But, then again...maybe I have!! BTW, did you mean to post 3 times? TJ
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Can't seem to figure out how to delete a post...which is what I was trying to do when I got 2 more posts instead. Thought maybe I had come on too strong....even tho' it IS exactly how I feel...and then some
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After writing a long rant I decided that I’m not going to, I'm too pissed to post it here, as I might get a visit from ???.
This whole situation is a damn disgrace. This whole situation should be a revelation to everybody that owns a firearm as it shows the utter disregard for the constitution show by all elected officials and the court system. Thanks Lori for posting this.
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The thing to remember here is that if Obama is turely not a US citizen then our constituation has been circumvented. The question is not will it happen again but when will it happen.
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I fully understand AZSIGMAN, these new fangled things!! And I hope you have taken my posts in the spirit that I have written them in, i.e. dripping with sarcasm. Wink TJ
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If he is not qualified, it is just a continuation of the same UNconstitutional path we have been led down, for years now.
Constitution? WHAT constitution?
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Thanks for the post Lori
But I have to agree with RunningOnMT, Berg's letter doesn't resound with the flavor of confidence or competence, more with the flavor of desperation and anger. It would be, or course, proper for the legal ramifications to run their course, but also painfull. The future is hidden to me, and I have know idea what to expect. How can I prepare for anything, when the possibilities are so vast ? I yield the floor for you all to answer my last question.
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Hey, when he becomes president, it'll be an Obama-nation!!
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Feel free to use it. I know I am. Every time he screws up (and he will) I will shout "why, It's an OBAMA-Nation!" Wink TJ
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Eligibility battle rages on 3 fronts
Court, Congress and college challenged on constitutionality http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=86325 In my own opinion...no matter what happens, we're screwed.
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If everything is on the up and up, then why is Obama himself hampering the investigation? That one point right there makes me believe that he actually WAS born in Kenya and thus inelligible for the office. Of course, if by some small chance his election is declared null and void, who would be President? Please don't tell me it would be Sneaky Joe Biden or even worse that whackadoo Pelosi.
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