1100 page Stimulus package - The Firearms Forum

cycloneman · 02-15-2009, 11:29 PM

Does anybody know if this thing passed.

Wait, let me guess. Ahhhhhhh, lets see it was probably 1100 pages or so with only about 12 hours to read it and why not just let the republicans sit out of this one. Is that how it went?

CampingJosh · 02-15-2009, 11:35 PM

You pretty much nailed it. It passed on Friday night, and Obama is having a big ceremony in Denver on Tuesday to sign it.

The way they claimed it absolutely had to be rushed, you'd think he'd at least pretend he was in a rush and sign it on Monday...

cycloneman · 02-15-2009, 11:40 PM

yea I watched it. I know it passed. what i was most interested in was the vote to keep out the minority group (republicans) from the discussion and vote.

artabr · 02-16-2009, 12:40 AM

The Democrats were in a rush to get it passed so NOBODY could read it.
Obozo & crew said this must be passed Now. If they were in such a rush Why is Obozo waiting till Tuesday to sign this bill. They could have waited till Tuesday to vote on this.

Art

glocknut · 02-16-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CampingJosh

You pretty much nailed it. It passed on Friday night, and Obama is having a big ceremony in Denver on Tuesday to sign it.

The way they claimed it absolutely had to be rushed, you'd think he'd at least pretend he was in a rush and sign it on Monday...

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Originally Posted by artabr

The Democrats were in a rush to get it passed so NOBODY could read it.
Obozo & crew said this must be passed Now. If they were in such a rush Why is Obozo waiting till Tuesday to sign this bill. They could have waited till Tuesday to vote on this.

Art

Ditto X 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike
gn

artabr · 02-16-2009, 01:06 AM

Here's John Boehner's speech on the floor of the House.
I wish I could shake his hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3085DErFpoY

I think I'll post a thread of this in the Constiution and RKBA forum also.

Art

noslolo · 02-16-2009, 01:07 AM

Oh well, now my son is going to have to either be a Doctor or a dead beat, to live in the same middle American life style that he is growing up in.

1shot1k · 02-16-2009, 01:09 AM

well...how long do I wait to get stimulated

noslolo · 02-16-2009, 01:19 AM

Thanks artabr for the link, Johnny B nailed it!

artabr · 02-16-2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1shot1k

well...how long do I wait to get stimulated

I could use a good stimulant right about now. Them politicans are about to drive me to drinking again.

Art

glocknut · 02-16-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by artabr

I could use a good stimulant right about now.

Just get a prescription...

mike
gn

Lori Mick · 02-16-2009, 04:49 AM

Well I heard on the news last night that theres about 600 Million bucks to make people quit smoking....

so does that mean they're gonna give me money to quit?

icm856 · 02-16-2009, 05:17 AM

The stimulus bill is a sham, nothing more than the fleecing of this Nation. I haven't talked to anyone who expects to benefit from it. In fact, a lot of people think all this government spending with just result in higher taxes in the future.

carver · 02-16-2009, 05:32 AM

From U.S. Senator John Cornyn, "The Democrats' plan: Some of the more absurd examples include a request for $600 million to build an "ethnic heritage trail" or a request for $6 million to build three aquatic centers with water slides". There's some of your stimulus! If you don't have a job, go to the water park and relax!

Lori Mick · 02-16-2009, 06:34 AM

here's a couple of things our money is being spent on....

-- $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
-- $380 million for the Women, Infants & Children welfare program
-- $300 million in grants to combat violence against women
-- $1.2 billion to provide "youth" with summer jobs
-- $2.4 billion for "neighborhood stabilization" activities (Payoff to ACORN)
-- $650 million for digital TV coupons (Gov't control of the Airwaves)
-- $150 million for the Smithsonian
-- $34 million to renovate the Dept. of Commerce headquarters (Payoff to the Unions)
-- $500 million for improvements to the National Institute of Health facility
-- $44 million for repairs to the Dept. of Agriculture's headquarters (Payoff to the Unions)
-- $350 million for agriculture department computers (Parts Manufactured in China & Japan)
-- $88 million to move (that's right, move) the Public Health Service into a new building.
-- $1 billion for the Census Bureau
-- $89 billion for Medicaid
-- $30 billion for COBRA extensions
-- $36 billion for expanded unemployment
-- $20 billion for food stamps
-- $850 million for Amtrak (Payoff to the Unions)
-- $87 million for a "polar ice breaking ship" (What about the ice caps melting because of global warming?)
-- $1.7 million for the National Park Service
-- $55 million for the Historic Preservation Fund
-- $7.6 million for the Rural Advancement Program
-- $150 million for "agricultural commodity purchases"
-- $150 million for producers of livestock, farm-raised fish and honey bees (More Subsidies)
-- $160 million for paid volunteers (what is a "paid volunteer"?) at the Corporation for National and Community Service (Sounds like ACORN)

So where is the money that is going to help the small businesses that create most of the jobs in this country?

SaddleSarge · 02-16-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by noslolo

Oh well, now my son is going to have to either be a Doctor or a dead beat, to live in the same middle American life style that he is growing up in.

I'd go for the dead beat.... he'll bring in more money now.

AL MOUNT · 02-16-2009, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lori Mick

: so does that mean they're gonna give me money to quit?

Naw, I heard the're gonna make the tobacco growers fertilize with bat poop.

Just kidden ....

Lori Mick · 02-16-2009, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

Naw, I heard the're gonna make the tobacco growers fertilize with bat poop.

Just kidden ....

GULP!!! eeeewwww!!! ok ok...Then I'll just have to buy my smokes from the Indians! Actually, I already do!

AL MOUNT · 02-16-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lori Mick

GULP!!! eeeewwww!!! ok ok...Then I'll just have to buy my smokes from the Indians!

Eagle poop ..

oscarmayer · 02-16-2009, 07:06 AM

this whole mess is troubling. i hate to be a doom and gloom type but given the circumstances what hope is there ? how long until we see soup lines and 20 % unemployment ? crime rate going through the roof and people jumping out of tall buildings. 80 years since the "depression" and everyone afraid to use the D word now but it's here and only going to get worse.

satellite66 · 02-16-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by noslolo

Oh well, now my son is going to have to either be a Doctor or a dead beat, to live in the same middle American life style that he is growing up in.

Forget the doctor. If chairman Bao gets his healthcare being a doctor won't pay crap.

Lori Mick · 02-16-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

Eagle poop ..

That's a whole lotta poop!!!

noslolo · 02-17-2009, 12:01 AM

Too true sarge!

Vladimir · 02-17-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by satellite66

Forget the doctor. If chairman Bao gets his healthcare being a doctor won't pay crap.

Last time I checked we had a pretty good government paid medical staff already available. Then again Cindy down the street might feel uncomfortable being checked out by a woman in camouflage fatigues. We'd hate for anyone to feel uncomfortable.

02-15-2009, 11:29 PM	#1
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,407	1100 page Stimulus package Does anybody know if this thing passed. Wait, let me guess. Ahhhhhhh, lets see it was probably 1100 pages or so with only about 12 hours to read it and why not just let the republicans sit out of this one. Is that how it went? -->

02-15-2009, 11:35 PM	#2
CampingJosh TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 4,789	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package You pretty much nailed it. It passed on Friday night, and Obama is having a big ceremony in Denver on Tuesday to sign it. The way they claimed it absolutely had to be rushed, you'd think he'd at least pretend he was in a rush and sign it on Monday... __________________ Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice. Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.

02-15-2009, 11:40 PM	#3
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,407	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package yea I watched it. I know it passed. what i was most interested in was the vote to keep out the minority group (republicans) from the discussion and vote.

02-16-2009, 12:40 AM	#4
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package The Democrats were in a rush to get it passed so NOBODY could read it. Obozo & crew said this must be passed Now. If they were in such a rush Why is Obozo waiting till Tuesday to sign this bill. They could have waited till Tuesday to vote on this. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

02-16-2009, 01:06 AM	#6
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package Here's John Boehner's speech on the floor of the House. I wish I could shake his hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3085DErFpoY I think I'll post a thread of this in the Constiution and RKBA forum also. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!! Last edited by artabr; 02-16-2009 at 01:08 AM..

02-16-2009, 01:07 AM	#7
noslolo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 1,558	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package Oh well, now my son is going to have to either be a Doctor or a dead beat, to live in the same middle American life style that he is growing up in. __________________ I'm a heck of a "obesito illegitimo"

02-16-2009, 01:09 AM	#8
1shot1k Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 904	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package well...how long do I wait to get stimulated

02-16-2009, 01:19 AM	#9
noslolo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 1,558	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package Thanks artabr for the link, Johnny B nailed it! __________________ I'm a heck of a "obesito illegitimo"

02-16-2009, 04:49 AM	#12
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package Well I heard on the news last night that theres about 600 Million bucks to make people quit smoking.... so does that mean they're gonna give me money to quit? __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

02-16-2009, 05:17 AM	#13
icm856 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IL Posts: 86	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package The stimulus bill is a sham, nothing more than the fleecing of this Nation. I haven't talked to anyone who expects to benefit from it. In fact, a lot of people think all this government spending with just result in higher taxes in the future.

02-16-2009, 05:32 AM	#14
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,309	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package From U.S. Senator John Cornyn, "The Democrats' plan: Some of the more absurd examples include a request for $600 million to build an "ethnic heritage trail" or a request for $6 million to build three aquatic centers with water slides". There's some of your stimulus! If you don't have a job, go to the water park and relax! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

02-16-2009, 06:34 AM	#15
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package here's a couple of things our money is being spent on.... -- $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts -- $380 million for the Women, Infants & Children welfare program -- $300 million in grants to combat violence against women -- $1.2 billion to provide "youth" with summer jobs -- $2.4 billion for "neighborhood stabilization" activities (Payoff to ACORN) -- $650 million for digital TV coupons (Gov't control of the Airwaves) -- $150 million for the Smithsonian -- $34 million to renovate the Dept. of Commerce headquarters (Payoff to the Unions) -- $500 million for improvements to the National Institute of Health facility -- $44 million for repairs to the Dept. of Agriculture's headquarters (Payoff to the Unions) -- $350 million for agriculture department computers (Parts Manufactured in China & Japan) -- $88 million to move (that's right, move) the Public Health Service into a new building. -- $1 billion for the Census Bureau -- $89 billion for Medicaid -- $30 billion for COBRA extensions -- $36 billion for expanded unemployment -- $20 billion for food stamps -- $850 million for Amtrak (Payoff to the Unions) -- $87 million for a "polar ice breaking ship" (What about the ice caps melting because of global warming?) -- $1.7 million for the National Park Service -- $55 million for the Historic Preservation Fund -- $7.6 million for the Rural Advancement Program -- $150 million for "agricultural commodity purchases" -- $150 million for producers of livestock, farm-raised fish and honey bees (More Subsidies) -- $160 million for paid volunteers (what is a "paid volunteer"?) at the Corporation for National and Community Service (Sounds like ACORN) So where is the money that is going to help the small businesses that create most of the jobs in this country? __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

02-16-2009, 07:06 AM	#20
oscarmayer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Contributor Posts: 2,387	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package this whole mess is troubling. i hate to be a doom and gloom type but given the circumstances what hope is there ? how long until we see soup lines and 20 % unemployment ? crime rate going through the roof and people jumping out of tall buildings. 80 years since the "depression" and everyone afraid to use the D word now but it's here and only going to get worse.

02-17-2009, 12:01 AM	#23
noslolo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 1,558	Re: 1100 page Stimulus package Too true sarge! __________________ I'm a heck of a "obesito illegitimo"