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islenos · 02-19-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

Im glad you guys kissed and made up.

Well, I'm sure we ain't takin' hot showers together any time soon

delta13soultaker · 02-19-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by islenos

yea.... well...... the Southside of Heaven at Least

Sorry for jumping so quickly on the M4 comment. For years now every time I get in a conversation about battle rifles, someone always brings to the table 'the little black rifle'. So for me, it was just a knee jerk reaction of a tired old grunt.

Yeah I understand, I do the same thing when I hear praises for the AK47...so many Americans repeat the reputation of the rifle as though it were absolute truths, but never mention that the ultimate reason the weapon is so popular is that it is so cheap in Asia and Africa...or see the significance in the Soviets ditching the 7.62x39mm in 1980. It is tiring after a while....like listening to people praise Obama

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

Islenois, & Delta, I sure do hope I get to meet you guys one day. You guys seen very knowledgable and it sure would be nice to talk to you off of this fourm. But Im glad you guys kissed and made up.

Weren't no kissing!

Cyclone, you seem like a cool dude. One day I'm going ride out to see my country on two wheels, the whole thing, so keep the invitation open, it'd be nice to visit and meet interesting folks.

cycloneman · 02-19-2009, 10:09 AM

Any time Delta.

islenos · 02-19-2009, 05:29 PM

Oh yea! Back to the topic at hand...... FAL!!!!!

delta13soultaker · 02-19-2009, 06:36 PM

Nice. Looks ready for work.

islenos · 02-19-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by delta13soultaker

Nice. Looks ready for work.

yep, here piggy piggy piggy

delta13soultaker · 02-20-2009, 05:19 PM

Javalinas?

RunningOnMT · 02-20-2009, 05:29 PM

Bottom line i suppose is I don't care what you shoot as long as we're shooting at the same target. If we aren't shooting at each other then we're brothers in arms.

BTW...FAL's are getting real scarce. Talked to Atlantic Firearms on the phone last week. They are out of the FAL Imbels and don't know when or if they'll have them again. Anyone that owns one now should consider themselves fortunate.

islenos · 02-20-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by delta13soultaker

Javalinas?

Naw, Javalinas are pets, thar be Russian Boars in the grass

delta13soultaker · 02-20-2009, 08:27 PM

Ahhhh okay......where I grew up Razorbacks ran free in the bottoms and big hardwoods. These are not an animal to fool with when they're in packs. Didn't see them again until I did training in Hohenfels, Germany....this is fairly close to Czechoslovakia, then Russia. They get so big it makes their size and distance deceiving...out in the grass you think you're looking at a big sow and some younguns about 100 meters away, but you drive up and realize it was a gigantic boar and some young adults on the back side of 200 meters away.

I'm no biologist, but I think they're the same pig.

islenos · 02-20-2009, 08:54 PM

During the Depression, federal agents were killing livestock in order to limit supply to drive up demand. The farmers rather then seeing the wholesale slaughter of there animal, set them free to roam out the rest of their days.
Since that time the Boars have mixed in part with loose farm pigs resulting in a massive, shaggy, tusk bearing, nasty 350 to 500 lb creature.

You hunt them at night from the bed of a pickup and dare not to carelessly walk around.

If figure when I'm through with life I going to hunt them with just a spear and loincloth

Needless to say they are a worthy adversary.

_______________
Fal Fal Fal Fal for ever! (in keeping with the thread)

delta13soultaker · 02-21-2009, 06:34 PM

Yep. Was back in the 90's, I was a young 11M putting in some time as an M2 crewmember until I could get back in a squad. We were sitting in a big circle perimeter with about 100+ meters between vehicles in Hohenfels. The guard shift was 25% all night until stand-to...so 1 vehicle per platoon. The dismounts were out in the hills.

About 0200 in the morning...I don't recall exactly but early as hell, this Columbian kid in my platoon was kicking my hatch to tell me it was my guard shift. So I'm up, piss over the back deck, sit on the hatch, NVG's on, rifle check, radios on, handmike check, turret power looks good...don't need driver to cold-start track...okay this kid is still on my deck and now I'm awake enough to really pay attention. "What's up dude?" I ask. "The f***ing pigs! They chased me from halfway here." or something to that affect.

This kid was close to crying. I listen and yep I can here them out there, but can't see them with 7b's...I kick the track thermals on, let them cool enough to see, and scan over and yep there's a bunch of big ones in front of us. It took a long time for them to leave and longer to convince him it was ok to go.

I don't mind admitting though, when it was my turn to go wake up the next track, the hair was standing up on my neck the whole way there and back. An M16 full of blanks wasn't much good...and a bayonet won't fix on with the blank adapter on.

Things are like little rhinos. Feet don't fail me, feet don't fail me now....

RunningOnMT · 02-22-2009, 12:28 AM

Are wild boars as good eating as domestic pork? Any difference in taste?

delta13soultaker · 02-22-2009, 09:04 AM

Yes. In my opinion it depends a little on the time of year of the slaughter, but a fall/winter corn fed farm hog tastes better to me. I seen young razorback boars come back to pen from the woods (chasing sows) and end up wintering on corn and taste like a pen raised ham.

I also say though that a good man on the BBQ can make anything good.

TOOHSOTKIL · 02-22-2009, 06:58 PM

Nothing like the other white meat. Wild "pigs"=small("Hogs"=LARGE)
Wild is dark and tame is white......two totally different animals and cuts. No matter how you feed them.
Is this bad game cooking and unknowing skilet slingers,,,,,,or real world guns?
Govenment shooting is a wives tale at best never repeated.
I think Mac&Cheese rules this thread.
Too many real rifles of the day for young guns to even remember........what made a real rifleman.

Pew-pew.........it`s heavy-GOD SAVE US

cycloneman · 02-22-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by delta13soultaker

Yes. In my opinion it depends a little on the time of year of the slaughter, but a fall/winter corn fed farm hog tastes better to me. I seen young razorback boars come back to pen from the woods (chasing sows) and end up wintering on corn and taste like a pen raised ham.

I also say though that a good man on the BBQ can make anything good.

roger that delta. a few years back my buddy purchased 600 acres in tx. a couple years ago we had to thin the heard. i had 18 myself over hunting season. good eating. now we keep there numbers in check.

delta13soultaker · 02-22-2009, 07:46 PM

Sounds like it was a good year. I remember those years at deer camp where there was more pork than venison...nobody I remember complained.

We just ate some pork loin tonight....ya just can't mess it up...broiled, grilled, teriyaki marinade, bbq...just good. Haven't tried breading it and fried.......

cycloneman · 02-22-2009, 07:51 PM

this year a buddy and me had 2 antelop, 2 whitetail, 1 axis, and 2 hogs sent to a guy in Lavonia, La. Made ground meat and a variety of different sausages. Had some tonight. Dam this old boy does a good job! I'll be burping that green onion all night. That's when you know it's good!!!!!!

delta13soultaker · 02-22-2009, 07:58 PM

Yeah man. Ya'll have an exotic ranch out that way or?

cycloneman · 02-22-2009, 08:04 PM

No. we got 600 acres. White tail of course, hogs and Axis. The axis are free range. There is a guy on ajoining property that had boo koo axis. some got out and now there everywhere. I like it. Axis to me is better tasting than white tail. We are in Edwards county. Not going to say where on a public forum.

cycloneman · 02-22-2009, 08:06 PM

Ah, the antelop we hunted in New Mexico in September. We have a gun dealer in the houston area that guides and get us tags for the NM hunt

delta13soultaker · 02-22-2009, 08:12 PM

Cool...understand. Yeah I was straining my brain to recollect how far East-SE the antelope range and the line was pretty far west.

cycloneman · 02-22-2009, 08:17 PM

We hunt in area 58 i believe. top north east of the state. the rancher has 50K arces, but we only hunt 25 or so. there is a group of guys that usually go pretty much out of the houston area. i was able to get in with my buddy in houston about 8 years ago. it's a blast. lots of walking, glassing, crawling. i love it. it's the most challanging hunt with a rifle i think you can do.

delta13soultaker · 02-22-2009, 08:22 PM

Sounds like a good deal man. Hold on to it. Big difference than stand hunting eastern pulp tree fields and crop edges huh.

cycloneman · 02-22-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by delta13soultaker

Sounds like a good deal man. Hold on to it. Big difference than stand hunting eastern pulp tree fields and crop edges huh.

Yes sir, It's been a longggggggg time comming.

02-19-2009, 10:09 AM	#28
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Any time Delta. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-19-2009, 05:29 PM	#29
islenos Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,244	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Oh yea! Back to the topic at hand...... FAL!!!!! __________________

02-19-2009, 06:36 PM	#30
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Nice. Looks ready for work. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-20-2009, 05:19 PM	#32
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Javalinas? __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-20-2009, 05:29 PM	#33
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Bottom line i suppose is I don't care what you shoot as long as we're shooting at the same target. If we aren't shooting at each other then we're brothers in arms. BTW...FAL's are getting real scarce. Talked to Atlantic Firearms on the phone last week. They are out of the FAL Imbels and don't know when or if they'll have them again. Anyone that owns one now should consider themselves fortunate.

02-20-2009, 08:27 PM	#35
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Ahhhh okay......where I grew up Razorbacks ran free in the bottoms and big hardwoods. These are not an animal to fool with when they're in packs. Didn't see them again until I did training in Hohenfels, Germany....this is fairly close to Czechoslovakia, then Russia. They get so big it makes their size and distance deceiving...out in the grass you think you're looking at a big sow and some younguns about 100 meters away, but you drive up and realize it was a gigantic boar and some young adults on the back side of 200 meters away. I'm no biologist, but I think they're the same pig. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-20-2009, 08:54 PM	#36
islenos Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,244	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 During the Depression, federal agents were killing livestock in order to limit supply to drive up demand. The farmers rather then seeing the wholesale slaughter of there animal, set them free to roam out the rest of their days. Since that time the Boars have mixed in part with loose farm pigs resulting in a massive, shaggy, tusk bearing, nasty 350 to 500 lb creature. You hunt them at night from the bed of a pickup and dare not to carelessly walk around. If figure when I'm through with life I going to hunt them with just a spear and loincloth Needless to say they are a worthy adversary. _______________ Fal Fal Fal Fal for ever! (in keeping with the thread) __________________ Last edited by islenos; 02-20-2009 at 09:05 PM..

02-21-2009, 06:34 PM	#37
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Yep. Was back in the 90's, I was a young 11M putting in some time as an M2 crewmember until I could get back in a squad. We were sitting in a big circle perimeter with about 100+ meters between vehicles in Hohenfels. The guard shift was 25% all night until stand-to...so 1 vehicle per platoon. The dismounts were out in the hills. About 0200 in the morning...I don't recall exactly but early as hell, this Columbian kid in my platoon was kicking my hatch to tell me it was my guard shift. So I'm up, piss over the back deck, sit on the hatch, NVG's on, rifle check, radios on, handmike check, turret power looks good...don't need driver to cold-start track...okay this kid is still on my deck and now I'm awake enough to really pay attention. "What's up dude?" I ask. "The f*ing pigs! They chased me from halfway here." or something to that affect. This kid was close to crying. I listen and yep I can here them out there, but can't see them with 7b's...I kick the track thermals on, let them cool enough to see, and scan over and yep there's a bunch of big ones in front of us. It took a long time for them to leave and longer to convince him it was ok to go. I don't mind admitting though, when it was my turn to go wake up the next track, the hair was standing up on my neck the whole way there and back. An M16 full of blanks wasn't much good...and a bayonet won't fix on with the blank adapter on. Things are like little rhinos. Feet don't fail me, feet don't fail me now.... __________________ Never say die!** "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-22-2009, 12:28 AM	#38
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Are wild boars as good eating as domestic pork? Any difference in taste?

02-22-2009, 09:04 AM	#39
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Yes. In my opinion it depends a little on the time of year of the slaughter, but a fall/winter corn fed farm hog tastes better to me. I seen young razorback boars come back to pen from the woods (chasing sows) and end up wintering on corn and taste like a pen raised ham. I also say though that a good man on the BBQ can make anything good. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-22-2009, 06:58 PM	#40
TOOHSOTKIL V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Curracus Posts: 318	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Nothing like the other white meat. Wild "pigs"=small("Hogs"=LARGE) Wild is dark and tame is white......two totally different animals and cuts. No matter how you feed them. Is this bad game cooking and unknowing skilet slingers,,,,,,or real world guns? Govenment shooting is a wives tale at best never repeated. I think Mac&Cheese rules this thread. Too many real rifles of the day for young guns to even remember........what made a real rifleman. Pew-pew.........it`s heavy-GOD SAVE US Last edited by TOOHSOTKIL; 02-22-2009 at 07:04 PM..

02-22-2009, 07:46 PM	#42
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Sounds like it was a good year. I remember those years at deer camp where there was more pork than venison...nobody I remember complained. We just ate some pork loin tonight....ya just can't mess it up...broiled, grilled, teriyaki marinade, bbq...just good. Haven't tried breading it and fried....... __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-22-2009, 07:51 PM	#43
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 this year a buddy and me had 2 antelop, 2 whitetail, 1 axis, and 2 hogs sent to a guy in Lavonia, La. Made ground meat and a variety of different sausages. Had some tonight. Dam this old boy does a good job! I'll be burping that green onion all night. That's when you know it's good!!!!!! __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-22-2009, 07:58 PM	#44
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Yeah man. Ya'll have an exotic ranch out that way or? __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-22-2009, 08:04 PM	#45
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 No. we got 600 acres. White tail of course, hogs and Axis. The axis are free range. There is a guy on ajoining property that had boo koo axis. some got out and now there everywhere. I like it. Axis to me is better tasting than white tail. We are in Edwards county. Not going to say where on a public forum. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-22-2009, 08:06 PM	#46
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Ah, the antelop we hunted in New Mexico in September. We have a gun dealer in the houston area that guides and get us tags for the NM hunt __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-22-2009, 08:12 PM	#47
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Cool...understand. Yeah I was straining my brain to recollect how far East-SE the antelope range and the line was pretty far west. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

02-22-2009, 08:17 PM	#48
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 We hunt in area 58 i believe. top north east of the state. the rancher has 50K arces, but we only hunt 25 or so. there is a group of guys that usually go pretty much out of the houston area. i was able to get in with my buddy in houston about 8 years ago. it's a blast. lots of walking, glassing, crawling. i love it. it's the most challanging hunt with a rifle i think you can do. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-22-2009, 08:22 PM	#49
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: HK 91, Fn Fal, or M14 Sounds like a good deal man. Hold on to it. Big difference than stand hunting eastern pulp tree fields and crop edges huh. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt