Coining a new term - The Firearms Forum

kingnothingugm · 02-24-2009, 03:22 PM

It would appear that not only the U.S., but, nearly every country in the world is on the verge of, or engaged in, some form of internal conflict. We are all familiar with the terms world war and civil war, but, I do believe what we may soon witness will be an entirely new type of conflict. A World Civil War. A war in which nearly every country on the planet is plunged into some sort of civil conflict. Something similar to this may have happened somewhere in our distant history, but, I don't believe anything close to this has happened. World war is between two or more alliances of countries. Civil war is a war contained within a country between warring factions within that country. A World Civil War. That is a terrible thought. Any thoughts on this?

cycloneman · 02-24-2009, 03:30 PM

Good point. Is it at all possible that all the good hard working people of the world are sick of it?

kingnothingugm · 02-24-2009, 03:36 PM

You want to know the funn thing? Everyday occurances in our time are exactly the types of scenarios described in old times of the beginning of the apocolypse. Now those of us who only wish to live peacefully, and without the interference of some power hungry elitist leaders are tired of it. You are absolutely right. The good people of the world are fed up with it.

TranterUK · 02-24-2009, 03:40 PM

Civil War you say? I used that term after finding out the London bombers were UK born citizens. A Civil War is what I believe we have.

This makes me very sad indeed. I have always embraced other cultures and have often said it is not racial purity that has given us the strength we have shown over the last 2000 years but the mix itself. Different races and cultures all contributing something different, adding to the whole. To find there are people who are willing to do what these people are willing to do, to change us to their way through violence and terror makes me sad and angry.

kingnothingugm · 02-24-2009, 03:58 PM

This all goes back to the good neighbor philosophy. I live in my house and you live in yours. We are friendly in passing and even share stories of our experience. At the end of the day we retire to our own homes safe in the knowledge that even though your beliefs are not always the same as my own, you respect the fact that we can be friendly and live close together without the need to change each other. Just like good neighbors. Your house being your religion, or culture or what ever you wish. It is yours to do as you wish. The same as my house. Why create an atmosphere that could potentially destroy my house as well as yours?

TranterUK · 02-24-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kingnothingugm

Just like good neighbors. Your house being your religion, or culture or what ever you wish. It is yours to do as you wish. The same as my house. Why create an atmosphere that could potentially destroy my house as well as yours?

Well said.

Pistolenschutze · 02-24-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingnothingugm

A World Civil War. That is a terrible thought. Any thoughts on this?

The last time humanity had one of those they called it World War II, and over 50,000,000 died as a result.

kingnothingugm · 02-24-2009, 05:40 PM

Yes, but that was a World war. What I am talking about is each country in a state of civil war. Not Axis vs. Allies...but brother vs. brother, so to speak. A war between two or more factions within their own country. Massive global internal conflict. This has the potential for far more death and destruction. That is not to take away from WW2 and how terrible a cost was paid. But to show how this type of war(global civil war) would have such terrible potential.

yorkiepap · 02-24-2009, 05:46 PM

Hey guys,
Well, this topic could indeed provide the general consensus of those of us who still believe in the Constitution our founding fathers conceived, and the progressive deterioration of our society that really engaged in the '60's and accelerated downwards each year since. The corruption, greed, ineptness, dishonor and total lack of care of those we place into office to follow our wishes, is, and will be, the cause of a great upheaval in this country and others. The government is out of control and lack of any semblance of confidence by the people has never been more evident.

My pap, prior to his passing in 11/08, once said: "The winds of discontent rise rapidly and I will not see the internal conflict that approaches and will take place in this country, but you will." His words appear to be coming to fruition. I am retired(partially) and growing during WWII thru today, I can also see the ugliness poised to engulf out country into utter madness & chaos. Sad that the Good Lord has to swing his mighty fist to birth the awakening. Denny

armedandsafe · 02-25-2009, 11:34 PM

I have said for years that it will have to get worse before enough of us get angry enough to make it better.

My children have been taught to shoot, to have situational awareness and to trust nobody in a position of power. Sad, that last part, but necessary and true.

I watched freedoms eroded during WWII and then most of them return. I have seen freedom erode since the 60s and I truly believe we will, one day soon, have to force the return, rather than waiting for the good graces of our electeds to return them to us.

One of the biggest mistakes we made was when we allowed our hired hands, in State houses and in D. C., begin to call themselves "lawmakers" rather than "representatives."

I will not be among the first of those taken down in the forthcoming assault on freedom loving Americans, because I live in a rural area where people still believe in freedom. However, I will be taken down when the time comes. I will be taken down because I tell people I believe in freedom and teach people how to resist tyranny. A free person can be killed, but not defeated. I will not be defeated.

This post, alone, will move me up on the list.

Pops

GMFWoodchuck · 02-26-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

Good point. Is it at all possible that all the good hard working people of the world are sick of it?

Ditto on this one.

45nut · 02-26-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kingnothingugm

You want to know the fun thing? Everyday occurrences in our time are exactly the types of scenarios described in old times of the beginning of the Apocalypse. Now those of us who only wish to live peacefully, and without the interference of some power hungry elitist leaders are tired of it. You are absolutely right. The good people of the world are fed up with it.

You speak the truth. The Apocalypse is upon us. I'm waiting for Israel to announce the rebuilding of the Temple and then I"m heading for the hills. Come to think of it, the Temple Mound is covered by a mosque, so..... that will have to be removed before they can rebuild the Temple. How will they do that?

Maybe after they nuke Iran, they'll just bulldoze that hate mongering mosque and rebuild the temple. After that occurs, it won't be much longer before Jesus returns and whips the liberals a$$es!

armedandsafe · 02-26-2009, 02:31 PM

Picked this up from another thread pointing me to CFP.

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Today, the number of states claiming state sovereignty, some outlining specific federal actions that have far more to do with usurping the US Constitution than upholding it, has grown to at least thirty two… the magic number is 34....
2009: Arkansas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: Arizona - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment
1994: California - 10th Amendment
1995/96: Georgia - 10th Amendment
2009: Georgia - 10th Amendment
2009: Kansas - 10th Amendment
1997/98: Louisiana - Sovereignty Constitutional Amendment
2009: Michigan - 10th Amendment
2009: Minnesota - 10th Amendment
2009: Missouri - Freedom of Choice Act (Abortion), 10th Amendment
2009: Montana - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, 2nd Amendment
2009: New Hampshire - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Federal Reserve, Taxes, Martial Law, 2nd Amendment, Draft/War, Patriot Act, Labor Camps, 1st Amendment
2008: Oklahoma - 10th Amendment, (Other Legislation: No Child Left Behind, Real ID Act)
2009: Oklahoma - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: South Carolina - 9th Amendment, 10 Amendment, Martial Law and Related, 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment
2009: Tennessee - 10th Amendment
2009: Texas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: Utah - Real ID Act
2009: Washington - 10th Amendment

* Proposed: Alabama - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Alaska
* 1994: Colorado - 10th Amendment
* 1995: Florida - 10th Amendment
* Proposed [HJM RS18517]: Idaho - 10th Amendment
* 2009: Indiana - 10th Amendment
* 2009: Iowa - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Maine
* Proposed: Nevada
* Proposed: Ohio - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Pennsylvania - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: Virginia - 10th Amendment
* Proposed: West Virginia - Same as New Hampshire
Republic of Lakotah - Full Independence
Hawaii - Full Independence

Pops

Haligan · 02-26-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by armedandsafe

This post, alone, will move me up on the list.

Pops

Pops,
I gotta think this "list" has to be getting pretty long. I mean with all the gun purchases, all the rowdy talk all over the place.

At least that's what I tell myself.

Danny

Lori Mick · 02-26-2009, 02:58 PM

The Mighty O wants to be like Lincoln....

And what happened during Lincoln's term?

He's pushing us to the brink with all this spending.....I hope all the tea partys and backlash starts to open some eyes over there!

I just want to email every single government member....and just say... 'YOU'RE FIRED!"

armedandsafe · 02-26-2009, 03:28 PM

We did something similar quite a few years ago. We mailed post cards which said "You are not MY representative." We printed 5,000 and ran out in about 2 weeks. Seems it had something to do with the "It's a Crime, Bill."

Pops

Teejay9 · 02-26-2009, 03:57 PM

It does appear that the world is running amok. Are these forces that can be stemmed by the "good" people of the world, or must it run it's course? All remains to be seen. It does seem that every country has some sort of beef, either internal or external. Sadly, much of this turmoil is the result of religious fanatics. They are, as Tranter has pointed out, often an enemy "within." Home grown varieties. Can the gulf between Islam and everyone else ever be bridged? As 45 said, if they rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, better grabe what you can and bug out, cause it's coming! TJ

rockntractor · 02-26-2009, 10:54 PM

civil wars were part of both world wars before and after they started. the tyrants never have 100% support from their citizens. there is always a dissenting party usually a minority that has to be silenced. then the leader seeks to bring other countries into submission after all the are smarter and need to share ther gift of intelligence with them.we won't have a civil war here. look how things are progressing with hardly a wimper. when the protesting begins it will be reported disshonestly. the media is a willing participant in obamas power grab.most other dictators have had to crush the media and force them to obey.

02-24-2009, 03:22 PM	#1
kingnothingugm V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 274	Coining a new term It would appear that not only the U.S., but, nearly every country in the world is on the verge of, or engaged in, some form of internal conflict. We are all familiar with the terms world war and civil war, but, I do believe what we may soon witness will be an entirely new type of conflict. A World Civil War. A war in which nearly every country on the planet is plunged into some sort of civil conflict. Something similar to this may have happened somewhere in our distant history, but, I don't believe anything close to this has happened. World war is between two or more alliances of countries. Civil war is a war contained within a country between warring factions within that country. A World Civil War. That is a terrible thought. Any thoughts on this? __________________ Freedom is not being able to do what you want, whenever you feel like it. Freedom is being willing to die defending your right to do so. -- Me Those who fight deserve our respect, wether they win or lose. -- Me -->

02-24-2009, 03:30 PM	#2
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: Coining a new term Good point. Is it at all possible that all the good hard working people of the world are sick of it? __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-24-2009, 03:36 PM	#3
kingnothingugm V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 274	Re: Coining a new term You want to know the funn thing? Everyday occurances in our time are exactly the types of scenarios described in old times of the beginning of the apocolypse. Now those of us who only wish to live peacefully, and without the interference of some power hungry elitist leaders are tired of it. You are absolutely right. The good people of the world are fed up with it. __________________ Freedom is not being able to do what you want, whenever you feel like it. Freedom is being willing to die defending your right to do so. -- Me Those who fight deserve our respect, wether they win or lose. -- Me

02-24-2009, 03:40 PM	#4
TranterUK Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 5,103	Re: Coining a new term Civil War you say? I used that term after finding out the London bombers were UK born citizens. A Civil War is what I believe we have. This makes me very sad indeed. I have always embraced other cultures and have often said it is not racial purity that has given us the strength we have shown over the last 2000 years but the mix itself. Different races and cultures all contributing something different, adding to the whole. To find there are people who are willing to do what these people are willing to do, to change us to their way through violence and terror makes me sad and angry. __________________ DVC - Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas - Accuracy, Power, Speed. The light at the end of the recession tunnel IS a train coming the other way!

02-24-2009, 03:58 PM	#5
kingnothingugm V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 274	Re: Coining a new term This all goes back to the good neighbor philosophy. I live in my house and you live in yours. We are friendly in passing and even share stories of our experience. At the end of the day we retire to our own homes safe in the knowledge that even though your beliefs are not always the same as my own, you respect the fact that we can be friendly and live close together without the need to change each other. Just like good neighbors. Your house being your religion, or culture or what ever you wish. It is yours to do as you wish. The same as my house. Why create an atmosphere that could potentially destroy my house as well as yours? __________________ Freedom is not being able to do what you want, whenever you feel like it. Freedom is being willing to die defending your right to do so. -- Me Those who fight deserve our respect, wether they win or lose. -- Me

02-24-2009, 05:40 PM	#8
kingnothingugm V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 274	Re: Coining a new term Yes, but that was a World war. What I am talking about is each country in a state of civil war. Not Axis vs. Allies...but brother vs. brother, so to speak. A war between two or more factions within their own country. Massive global internal conflict. This has the potential for far more death and destruction. That is not to take away from WW2 and how terrible a cost was paid. But to show how this type of war(global civil war) would have such terrible potential. __________________ Freedom is not being able to do what you want, whenever you feel like it. Freedom is being willing to die defending your right to do so. -- Me Those who fight deserve our respect, wether they win or lose. -- Me Last edited by kingnothingugm; 02-24-2009 at 05:42 PM..

02-24-2009, 05:46 PM	#9
yorkiepap Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Pa. Posts: 38	Re: Coining a new term Hey guys, Well, this topic could indeed provide the general consensus of those of us who still believe in the Constitution our founding fathers conceived, and the progressive deterioration of our society that really engaged in the '60's and accelerated downwards each year since. The corruption, greed, ineptness, dishonor and total lack of care of those we place into office to follow our wishes, is, and will be, the cause of a great upheaval in this country and others. The government is out of control and lack of any semblance of confidence by the people has never been more evident. My pap, prior to his passing in 11/08, once said: "The winds of discontent rise rapidly and I will not see the internal conflict that approaches and will take place in this country, but you will." His words appear to be coming to fruition. I am retired(partially) and growing during WWII thru today, I can also see the ugliness poised to engulf out country into utter madness & chaos. Sad that the Good Lord has to swing his mighty fist to birth the awakening. Denny __________________ * A man's word is his honor.... without honor, there is nothing.* * Words are like bullets.... once they leave your muzzle, you cannot get them back.* * I have no hesitation to kill or reservation to die for my flag.*

02-25-2009, 11:34 PM	#10
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Coining a new term I have said for years that it will have to get worse before enough of us get angry enough to make it better. My children have been taught to shoot, to have situational awareness and to trust nobody in a position of power. Sad, that last part, but necessary and true. I watched freedoms eroded during WWII and then most of them return. I have seen freedom erode since the 60s and I truly believe we will, one day soon, have to force the return, rather than waiting for the good graces of our electeds to return them to us. One of the biggest mistakes we made was when we allowed our hired hands, in State houses and in D. C., begin to call themselves "lawmakers" rather than "representatives." I will not be among the first of those taken down in the forthcoming assault on freedom loving Americans, because I live in a rural area where people still believe in freedom. However, I will be taken down when the time comes. I will be taken down because I tell people I believe in freedom and teach people how to resist tyranny. A free person can be killed, but not defeated. I will not be defeated. This post, alone, will move me up on the list. Pops

02-26-2009, 02:58 PM	#15
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: Coining a new term The Mighty O wants to be like Lincoln.... And what happened during Lincoln's term? He's pushing us to the brink with all this spending.....I hope all the tea partys and backlash starts to open some eyes over there! I just want to email every single government member....and just say... 'YOU'RE FIRED!" __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

02-26-2009, 03:28 PM	#16
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Coining a new term We did something similar quite a few years ago. We mailed post cards which said "You are not MY representative." We printed 5,000 and ran out in about 2 weeks. Seems it had something to do with the "It's a Crime, Bill." Pops

02-26-2009, 03:57 PM	#17
Teejay9 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Southwest Corner of the US, "Where no stinking fence will stop us!!" Posts: 1,257	Re: Coining a new term It does appear that the world is running amok. Are these forces that can be stemmed by the "good" people of the world, or must it run it's course? All remains to be seen. It does seem that every country has some sort of beef, either internal or external. Sadly, much of this turmoil is the result of religious fanatics. They are, as Tranter has pointed out, often an enemy "within." Home grown varieties. Can the gulf between Islam and everyone else ever be bridged? As 45 said, if they rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, better grabe what you can and bug out, cause it's coming! TJ

02-26-2009, 10:54 PM	#18
rockntractor Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: okmulgee oklahoma Posts: 259	Re: Coining a new term civil wars were part of both world wars before and after they started. the tyrants never have 100% support from their citizens. there is always a dissenting party usually a minority that has to be silenced. then the leader seeks to bring other countries into submission after all the are smarter and need to share ther gift of intelligence with them.we won't have a civil war here. look how things are progressing with hardly a wimper. when the protesting begins it will be reported disshonestly. the media is a willing participant in obamas power grab.most other dictators have had to crush the media and force them to obey.