Traditional or inline - The Firearms Forum

Johnny Reb · 03-12-2009, 03:16 PM

Hey Everyone first time here, looks like a great forum. I'm lookin forward to sharing, learning and meeting new friends here. I was just wondering what Muzzleloaders you all like to shoot. for me I like Traditional. I own 2 T/C Hawkens and 1 T/C Renegade. What do you Guys Have?

mrkirker · 03-12-2009, 03:19 PM

Welcome JohnnyReb!
I shoot a Fayetteville .58 (repro), Smith Carbine .52 (original), and .44 Remington (repro).

newbee · 03-12-2009, 06:52 PM

Welcome JonnyReb!!
I myself am very new to ML's, but have shot modern fixed cart rifles and pistols. I choose a CVA wolf Magnum Break action in-line. I had tought about ML's for a long time. But I did not like the traditional designs. I like the fact that there is a real recoil pad, and the easier cleaning offered by a break action in-line

jjmitchell60 · 03-12-2009, 11:22 PM

welcome aboard. I personally shoot mostly flint lock BP guns but do own all types including a couple of modern in-lines. Now I rather shoot flinters in part due to the fact I do Rev War re-enactmenst but there is nothing like taking game in the field with an old style flint long rifle or full stock fowler.

sandhillmike · 03-14-2009, 12:01 AM

T/C Hawken .50
CVA Wolf .50
Knight Revolution .50
Pietta 1858 New Army .44 Revolver

Big ugly · 03-14-2009, 12:23 AM

I have a .40 cal Pennsylvania Long Rifle. Custom made by Pennsylvania Long Rifle Inc. Chery wood stock with real brass inserts. Cap and ball configuation. I also have two hand made flint lock pistols that are period correct one in .54 and the other in .56. These also are hand made and extreamly hard to hang on to when fired. Only fired each just a handful of times. The pistols were purchased from a gunsmith at the Ohio Renaissance Festival in Waynesville Ohio several years ago.

newbee · 03-15-2009, 09:14 AM

As you can see asking a question like that is like asking people what kind of cars they like. There are all sorts of reasons from the tradition to modern practicaly.

Myself in cars I am rather partial to the old Rambers/AMC's, I still have to laugh when the Georgia highway Patrol bought a bunch of AMC Javlins with 401 V8's in em. Not one trooper ever reported being out run by a suspect when drivin one.

21bravo · 03-15-2009, 08:49 PM

it really depends on the mood im in and weather conditions.. personally i favor my CVA Eclipse Hunter in-line w/ scope. i shoot hogdon triple seven pellets in it using a 209 primer... but i also like the hawkins .54 cal a friend of mine has. man is that thing a beast.

i wouldnt mind havin my own hawkins or a CVA wolf though...

olmossbak · 03-16-2009, 03:01 PM

T/C Renegade .54 I had a Weaver base installed and put on a red dot sight as the eyes don't do so well with the iron and the non-magnified red dot works well in my thick woods.

Vasily Zaytsev · 03-17-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Reb

I was just wondering what Muzzleloaders you all like to shoot.

Im glad you asked Sir.

I am a pure traditionist.

After playing with a few production guns over the years. I never found one that was worth a darn.

I only shoot one rifle, It does everything I need it to. I can ring the 100 yard gong, or bring home the meat.

I got it the old fashion way, I made it

Its not rocket science, and I have not found one person that could not do it.

There are very few production pieces that come anywhere close to a hand made one.

For $700ish you can get a Jim Chambers kit, and have a superior firearm.

If you want to pay a few 100 bcuks, and put up with misfires, breakage, and poor quality assembly, then knock yourself out.

Id rather be shooting.

To answer your question: 45 cal, rice 42in barrel, Crocket set triggers, Chambers Lock, modified by Mr Rice. A hunk of TN black walnut, and all rusted iron hardware.

newbee · 03-17-2009, 04:12 PM

Now there is another question you also have to ask. That is what you want to use it for. Then what is legal in your state, for example hunting. I colorado I can use only open sights in ML season and no battery powered device cna be used including sights and ignition. But during rifle season I can stil use a ML with a red dot sight.

ballcap · 04-11-2009, 08:46 AM

welcome Johnny Reb I've been shooting BP for 40 years and always stuck to the tradional methods, I believe most shooters have lost the spirit of black powder shooting
think back to the days of the frontiersman who rarely shot a dear beyond 50 yards.
one thing is powder was not easy to purchase in those days therefore did not use more than they had to ...min. charges to do the job. I believe we are getting off track today
with these modern guns and not holding on to the spirit of BP shooting.
Ballcap

03-12-2009, 03:16 PM	#1
Johnny Reb Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7	Traditional or inline Hey Everyone first time here, looks like a great forum. I'm lookin forward to sharing, learning and meeting new friends here. I was just wondering what Muzzleloaders you all like to shoot. for me I like Traditional. I own 2 T/C Hawkens and 1 T/C Renegade. What do you Guys Have? -->

03-12-2009, 03:19 PM	#2
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: Traditional or inline Welcome JohnnyReb! I shoot a Fayetteville .58 (repro), Smith Carbine .52 (original), and .44 Remington (repro). __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

03-12-2009, 06:52 PM	#3
newbee Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 19	Re: Traditional or inline Welcome JonnyReb!! I myself am very new to ML's, but have shot modern fixed cart rifles and pistols. I choose a CVA wolf Magnum Break action in-line. I had tought about ML's for a long time. But I did not like the traditional designs. I like the fact that there is a real recoil pad, and the easier cleaning offered by a break action in-line

03-12-2009, 11:22 PM	#4
jjmitchell60 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raised in Buzzard Roost near Frog Town in hillls of Kentucky Contributor Posts: 1,471	Re: Traditional or inline welcome aboard. I personally shoot mostly flint lock BP guns but do own all types including a couple of modern in-lines. Now I rather shoot flinters in part due to the fact I do Rev War re-enactmenst but there is nothing like taking game in the field with an old style flint long rifle or full stock fowler. __________________ Oath Keepers NOT ON OUR WATCH www.oathkeepers.org 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes Duty... Thomas Jefferson

03-14-2009, 12:01 AM	#5
sandhillmike Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Archer, Fla Posts: 10	Re: Traditional or inline T/C Hawken .50 CVA Wolf .50 Knight Revolution .50 Pietta 1858 New Army .44 Revolver

03-14-2009, 12:23 AM	#6
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: Traditional or inline I have a .40 cal Pennsylvania Long Rifle. Custom made by Pennsylvania Long Rifle Inc. Chery wood stock with real brass inserts. Cap and ball configuation. I also have two hand made flint lock pistols that are period correct one in .54 and the other in .56. These also are hand made and extreamly hard to hang on to when fired. Only fired each just a handful of times. The pistols were purchased from a gunsmith at the Ohio Renaissance Festival in Waynesville Ohio several years ago. __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

03-15-2009, 09:14 AM	#7
newbee Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 19	Re: Traditional or inline As you can see asking a question like that is like asking people what kind of cars they like. There are all sorts of reasons from the tradition to modern practicaly. Myself in cars I am rather partial to the old Rambers/AMC's, I still have to laugh when the Georgia highway Patrol bought a bunch of AMC Javlins with 401 V8's in em. Not one trooper ever reported being out run by a suspect when drivin one. Last edited by newbee; 03-15-2009 at 09:18 AM.. Reason: after thought

03-15-2009, 08:49 PM	#8
21bravo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: wilkes county, nc Posts: 790	Re: Traditional or inline it really depends on the mood im in and weather conditions.. personally i favor my CVA Eclipse Hunter in-line w/ scope. i shoot hogdon triple seven pellets in it using a 209 primer... but i also like the hawkins .54 cal a friend of mine has. man is that thing a beast. i wouldnt mind havin my own hawkins or a CVA wolf though... __________________ "BIG MOMMA BRAVO" If everything seems to be going well, you obviously do not know what the hell is going on --"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crime." - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by 21bravo; 03-15-2009 at 08:50 PM..

03-16-2009, 03:01 PM	#9
olmossbak V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NE Tenn Posts: 212	Re: Traditional or inline T/C Renegade .54 I had a Weaver base installed and put on a red dot sight as the eyes don't do so well with the iron and the non-magnified red dot works well in my thick woods.

03-17-2009, 04:12 PM	#11
newbee Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 19	Re: Traditional or inline Now there is another question you also have to ask. That is what you want to use it for. Then what is legal in your state, for example hunting. I colorado I can use only open sights in ML season and no battery powered device cna be used including sights and ignition. But during rifle season I can stil use a ML with a red dot sight.

04-11-2009, 08:46 AM	#12
ballcap Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: campbellford ontario, canada Posts: 4	Re: Traditional or inline welcome Johnny Reb I've been shooting BP for 40 years and always stuck to the tradional methods, I believe most shooters have lost the spirit of black powder shooting think back to the days of the frontiersman who rarely shot a dear beyond 50 yards. one thing is powder was not easy to purchase in those days therefore did not use more than they had to ...min. charges to do the job. I believe we are getting off track today with these modern guns and not holding on to the spirit of BP shooting. Ballcap