No More War on Terror - The Firearms Forum

sabashimon · 03-25-2009, 05:19 PM

First it was "Man caused Disasters", now we get this. George Orwell is smiling somewhere:

Don't mention the war on terror! Obama rebrands Bush's hated campaign as 'overseas contingency operation'

By Mail Foreign Service
25th March 2009

It was the most reviled policy of George W. Bush's presidency so the decision to rebrand the much derided 'war on terror' may seem particularly astute.

The wisdom of renaming it 'Overseas Contingency Operation' however, remains to be seen.

Washington speechwriters and other key officials were notified of the change today by email, according to The Washington Post.

Barack Obama has moved away from the terminology used by George W. Bush in the wake of the September 11 attacks

The leaked memo sent from the Defense Department's office of security notes: 'This administration prefers to avoid using the term "Long War" or"Global War on Terror".

'Please use 'Overseas Contingency Operation.'

Email recipients were asked to pass the information on to staff - and to amend uses of the phrase War On Terror, which was adopted after the September 11 attacks in 2001, in official documents.

However, there appeared to be some confusion about where the policy originated.

Kenneth Baer, spokesman from the Office of Management and Budget, said: 'There was no memo, no guidance.

'This is the opinion of a career civil servant.'

The Obama administration has been using the phrase Global Contingency Operation for around a month, in an apparent move to distance itself from the legacy of the Bush years.

The former President resisted pressure from his own advisers to rebrand the policy, despite claims the name did not reflect the realities of the fight against terrorism.

Options had included changing it to GSAVE, or Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism.

However, any such move was quashed after President Bush said it was still a war for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...html?ITO=1490#

USMC-03 · 03-25-2009, 05:51 PM

He who controls the language controls the arguement and the quest for power knows no shame.

FJF0311 · 03-25-2009, 06:39 PM

"Brothers don't declare war on brothers!"
(Fist bump, hand sign. funky walk off.)

LurpyGeek · 03-25-2009, 06:58 PM

And welcome back! Haven't seen you around for a while.

RunningOnMT · 03-25-2009, 07:03 PM

Silly. What the hell is a contingency operation anyway.

Main Entry: con·tin·gen·cy
Pronunciation: \kən-ˈtin-jən(t)-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural con·tin·gen·cies
Date: 1561
1: the quality or state of being contingent
2: a contingent event or condition: as a: an event (as an emergency) that may but is not certain to occur <trying to provide for every contingency> b: something liable to happen as an adjunct to or result of something else

Contingency is a "what if" plan. We are involved in a freaking war. Damn I can't stand libs. They try to act intelligent by throwing out big words the meaning of which they do not know. But then again..that is obama...the pretend president pretending to be an intellectual.

sabashimon · 03-25-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJF0311

"Brothers don't declare war on brothers!"
(Fist bump, hand sign. funky walk off.)

نَعَم
(that's "yep" in Arabic)

And thanks LurpyGeek

sabashimon · 03-25-2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunningOnMT

Silly. What the hell is a contingency operation anyway.

As USMC-03 intimated, language is important.

artabr · 03-25-2009, 07:17 PM

How soon they forget.

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Marlin T · 03-25-2009, 10:21 PM

I better not state my feelings towards democrats, but they EDITED OUT

RonRdRcr · 03-25-2009, 10:28 PM

Does this mean I get to wear another ribbon on my uniform...lol

Ron

islenos · 03-25-2009, 10:29 PM

Muslims are not the bad guys anymore. I believe they are dusting off the Clinton playbook that says militias are the big threat to the nation.

1shot1k · 03-25-2009, 10:42 PM

I guess....guess ..mind you...no problem with a new guy ..in a job hes not really ready for...surrounded by yes men and gals...choosing to set up his plans in a way to start tryin to close some wounds and head in some kinda direction ...I dont know.....I usually believe in benefit of doubt in MOST areas....

but why dont he call..personally....every family that has lost a member to this "contingency" ..and tell em why or what he is doing...?

As said...I give MOST new jacks some leavway..I mean...Gorge did have his dad in corner..and I sure trust Cheney to tell you how cow eats cabbage......but in reality...and I mean it....why cant this birth certificate CRAP...get settled one way or other...for god's and our sake....?

I enjoyed listening to a level headed guy getting interviewed a few minutes today that I could catch "Savage"....

He was honest..."it's not that the GOP i gaining so much ground lately..iys just the damn Dem's
are LOOSING so much ground recently...

And old BIG EARS POTUS OMAMMA...hasnt learned the tricks of Loose Trousers 'Bill"..and start this big Gov spending per "specifics " or peice meal...as the guy said...its happenin everywhere.."the average Joe/Sue when asked..may not know the big difference betwen ..well...7 to 9 Trillion deficit...They just dont like the Hell of the way either of the estimates sound...!"

Vasily Zaytsev · 03-26-2009, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by islenos

Muslims are not the bad guys anymore. I believe militias are the big threat to the nation

I have to concur

All those right wing extreme gun toting, bible thumping Constitutionalists

They are the real enemy

sabashimon · 03-26-2009, 11:23 AM

Terror attack = "man caused disaster"
Global war on terror = overseas contingency operations"
Next:
Islamic fundamentalist = "religiously challenged individual"

Makes me want to puke

USMC-03 · 03-26-2009, 11:41 AM

...And shortly to follow:

Patriot = Domestic Terrorist

Loyal Opposition = Subversion

bcj1755 · 03-26-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabashimon

Terror attack = "man caused disaster"
Global war on terror = overseas contingency operations"
Next:
Islamic fundamentalist = "religiously challenged individual"

Makes me want to puke

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMC-03

...And shortly to follow:

Patriot = Domestic Terrorist

Loyal Opposition = Subversion

Sadly, I have to agree

sabashimon · 03-26-2009, 04:01 PM

"From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."

George Orwell
1984

delta13soultaker · 03-26-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabashimon

First it was "Man caused Disasters", now we get this. George Orwell is smiling somewhere:

Don't mention the war on terror! Obama rebrands Bush's hated campaign as 'overseas contingency operation'

By Mail Foreign Service
25th March 2009

It was the most reviled policy of George W. Bush's presidency so the decision to rebrand the much derided 'war on terror' may seem particularly astute.

The wisdom of renaming it 'Overseas Contingency Operation' however, remains to be seen.

Washington speechwriters and other key officials were notified of the change today by email, according to The Washington Post.

Barack Obama has moved away from the terminology used by George W. Bush in the wake of the September 11 attacks

The leaked memo sent from the Defense Department's office of security notes: 'This administration prefers to avoid using the term "Long War" or"Global War on Terror".

'Please use 'Overseas Contingency Operation.'

Email recipients were asked to pass the information on to staff - and to amend uses of the phrase War On Terror, which was adopted after the September 11 attacks in 2001, in official documents.

However, there appeared to be some confusion about where the policy originated.

Kenneth Baer, spokesman from the Office of Management and Budget, said: 'There was no memo, no guidance.

'This is the opinion of a career civil servant.'

The Obama administration has been using the phrase Global Contingency Operation for around a month, in an apparent move to distance itself from the legacy of the Bush years.

The former President resisted pressure from his own advisers to rebrand the policy, despite claims the name did not reflect the realities of the fight against terrorism.

Options had included changing it to GSAVE, or Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism.

However, any such move was quashed after President Bush said it was still a war for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...html?ITO=1490#

Pure rhetoric!

These are the same guys that are offended by the truth so they put sugar on a turd and pretend it's a doughnut. If they cause a plane crash, it was "unintentional aircraft terrain interface", but if it's your fault it was a plane crash.

Just like Obama saying that, "We'll leave behind 50,000 non-combat troops".

We don't have any such thing as non-combat troops. All rhetoric.

03-25-2009, 05:19 PM	#1
sabashimon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PNW/Israel Posts: 672	No More War on Terror First it was "Man caused Disasters", now we get this. George Orwell is smiling somewhere: Don't mention the war on terror! Obama rebrands Bush's hated campaign as *'overseas contingency operation'* By Mail Foreign Service 25th March 2009 It was the most reviled policy of George W. Bush's presidency so the decision to rebrand the much derided 'war on terror' may seem particularly astute. The wisdom of renaming it 'Overseas Contingency Operation' however, remains to be seen. Washington speechwriters and other key officials were notified of the change today by email, according to The Washington Post. Barack Obama has moved away from the terminology used by George W. Bush in the wake of the September 11 attacks The leaked memo sent from the Defense Department's office of security notes: 'This administration prefers to avoid using the term "Long War" or"Global War on Terror". 'Please use 'Overseas Contingency Operation.' Email recipients were asked to pass the information on to staff - and to amend uses of the phrase War On Terror, which was adopted after the September 11 attacks in 2001, in official documents. However, there appeared to be some confusion about where the policy originated. Kenneth Baer, spokesman from the Office of Management and Budget, said: 'There was no memo, no guidance. 'This is the opinion of a career civil servant.' The Obama administration has been using the phrase Global Contingency Operation for around a month, in an apparent move to distance itself from the legacy of the Bush years. The former President resisted pressure from his own advisers to rebrand the policy, despite claims the name did not reflect the realities of the fight against terrorism. Options had included changing it to GSAVE, or Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism. However, any such move was quashed after President Bush said it was still a war for him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...html?ITO=1490# __________________ "We sleep safely in ours beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." George Orwell "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine --> Last edited by sabashimon; 03-25-2009 at 06:24 PM..

03-25-2009, 05:51 PM	#2
USMC-03 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,825	Re: No More War on Terror He who controls the language controls the arguement and the quest for power knows no shame. __________________ Let not the rifles of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots. - Fortes Fortuna Javat -

03-25-2009, 06:39 PM	#3
FJF0311 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mt. Airy, MD Posts: 269	Re: No More War on Terror "Brothers don't declare war on brothers!" (Fist bump, hand sign. funky walk off.)

03-25-2009, 06:58 PM	#4
LurpyGeek Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UT Posts: 1,436	Re: No More War on Terror And welcome back! Haven't seen you around for a while. __________________ Knowing is half the battle... Of course, the other half is violence.

03-25-2009, 07:03 PM	#5
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: No More War on Terror Silly. What the hell is a contingency operation anyway. Main Entry: con·tin·gen·cy Pronunciation: \kən-ˈtin-jən(t)-sē\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural con·tin·gen·cies Date: 1561 1: the quality or state of being contingent 2: a contingent event or condition: as a: an event (as an emergency) that may but is not certain to occur <trying to provide for every contingency> b: something liable to happen as an adjunct to or result of something else Contingency is a "what if" plan. We are involved in a freaking war. Damn I can't stand libs. They try to act intelligent by throwing out big words the meaning of which they do not know. But then again..that is obama...the pretend president pretending to be an intellectual.

03-25-2009, 07:17 PM	#8
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: No More War on Terror How soon they forget. . Attached Images __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!! Last edited by artabr; 03-25-2009 at 07:20 PM..

03-25-2009, 10:21 PM	#9
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: No More War on Terror I better not state my feelings towards democrats, but they EDITED OUT __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<< Last edited by Marlin T; 03-26-2009 at 12:50 PM..

03-25-2009, 10:28 PM	#10
RonRdRcr V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Astoria, OR Posts: 199	Re: No More War on Terror Does this mean I get to wear another ribbon on my uniform...lol Ron __________________

03-25-2009, 10:29 PM	#11
islenos Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,244	Re: No More War on Terror Muslims are not the bad guys anymore. I believe they are dusting off the Clinton playbook that says militias are the big threat to the nation. __________________

03-25-2009, 10:42 PM	#12
1shot1k Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 904	Re: No More War on Terror I guess....guess ..mind you...no problem with a new guy ..in a job hes not really ready for...surrounded by yes men and gals...choosing to set up his plans in a way to start tryin to close some wounds and head in some kinda direction ...I dont know.....I usually believe in benefit of doubt in MOST areas.... but why dont he call..personally....every family that has lost a member to this "contingency" ..and tell em why or what he is doing...? As said...I give MOST new jacks some leavway..I mean...Gorge did have his dad in corner..and I sure trust Cheney to tell you how cow eats cabbage......but in reality...and I mean it....why cant this birth certificate CRAP...get settled one way or other...for god's and our sake....? I enjoyed listening to a level headed guy getting interviewed a few minutes today that I could catch "Savage".... He was honest..."it's not that the GOP i gaining so much ground lately..iys just the damn Dem's are LOOSING so much ground recently... And old BIG EARS POTUS OMAMMA...hasnt learned the tricks of Loose Trousers 'Bill"..and start this big Gov spending per "specifics " or peice meal...as the guy said...its happenin everywhere.."the average Joe/Sue when asked..may not know the big difference betwen ..well...7 to 9 Trillion deficit...They just dont like the Hell of the way either of the estimates sound...!"

03-26-2009, 11:23 AM	#14
sabashimon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PNW/Israel Posts: 672	Re: No More War on Terror Terror attack = "man caused disaster" Global war on terror = overseas contingency operations" Next: Islamic fundamentalist = "religiously challenged individual" Makes me want to puke __________________ "We sleep safely in ours beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." George Orwell "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine

03-26-2009, 11:41 AM	#15
USMC-03 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,825	Re: No More War on Terror ...And shortly to follow: Patriot = Domestic Terrorist Loyal Opposition = Subversion __________________ Let not the rifles of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots. - Fortes Fortuna Javat -

03-26-2009, 04:01 PM	#17
sabashimon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PNW/Israel Posts: 672	Re: No More War on Terror "From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH." George Orwell 1984 __________________ "We sleep safely in ours beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." George Orwell "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine Last edited by sabashimon; 03-26-2009 at 04:04 PM..