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Join Date: Dec 2009
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I HAVE A PT99 AFS 9MM , SAME AS YOURS BUT STAINLESS AND ALUMINUM ALLOY WITH ADJUSTABLE SIGHTS, I HAVE OVER 2000 ROUNDS THROUGH IT NOW, NEVER A PROBLEM , YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME TYPE OF PRE BAN MAGAZINE THAT ONLY HOLDS 10 RDS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING 15 IN MINE, ALSO FOR THE MAGS, IN MY OPINION, NEVER BUY AFTER MARKET
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart
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i dont mean to step on toes but i have had both the model 92 and the model 99 in stainless,both have thousands of rounds thru them trouble free.i do know that not holding a firm grip on the pistols can cause problems.its not the gun its the shooter.i dont mean you nessesarily.i have seen other brands that also need a firm hold.the gun is gone now but if you get the chance to shoot another,try it. old semperfi
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: colorful colorado
Posts: 1,016
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Same here on the Taurus 99, bought in '94', used it in competition, over 5000 rds in 3 years, no hiccups. Mine was working when my buddies were sending their Berettas back for slide replacement due to cracking (remember that? it isn't just Taurus that can have problems).
Since the mags were virtually the same as Beretta, loading was just like any other mag, imo. |
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 858
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You should just stay with your WW2 theme.... An original M1911A1, a P-38, Browning High Power, etc. At least these usually work.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Akron, Ohio
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Crunchy, Just a thought here. maybe you aren't loading the magazines properly. There is a knack to it and as this is your first handgun you might not have picked it up. When you are loading your mags you should have the primer end of the round as far back on the follower as possible. If you aren't getting all the rounds alined it can make the follower cock so it is difficult to load more rds. This can also account for jams. I would guess that more than half of all semi auto malfunctions are caused by magazines either having misshapened feed lips or being improperly loaded.
I'd begin by taking your mags apart and cleaning them followed by very light lube. After you reassemble them try to load them up again. As you are loading , every couple rounds give the edge of the magazine a smack on the palm of your hand or a hard surface such as a bench to knock all the rounds into position. I still do this every time I load a mag (a habit i learned in the service) but usually not until it's full. |
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
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I too own a PT92. Owned for over 15 years and with about 2,000 rounds thru it, only a couple of jams. Mine were after a few days shooting without cleaning the thing up. I like the pistol and the ergonomics as it fits my hand well. Sorry you had problems with yours.
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: ISLE OF BONES
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Hi everyone...new guy here...My experience with the Taurus line of handguns has been limited to the PT92 & it's various incarnations as well as the newer PT1911.
I have owned one or more PT 92's and or the PT 917C since their inception in 1980. I have also owned Beretta 92's also since 1980. In 1980, the PT92 was made on Beretta machinery in a Beretta plant in Brasil. They were the SAME GUN back then. Since then, both Beretta and Taurus have changed (improved?) the 92. At this point, I prefer the Taurus version due to the frame mounted safety, which was the original way the safety was mounted. If you search the internet, you wil fine very little bad written about the Taurus PT92. It has been the consistent bright star in their lineup & still is. I'm sorry for your problems with yours, however, even Rolls Royce has mechanics to repair that great car if something goes wrong. At the very least, sounds like you may have defective mags. Contact Taurus and I'm sure your issues can be resolved. They even pay shipping to Miami both ways. My experience with the PT 1911 has also been good, and they are among the very few that make a full size 1911 with an alloy frame, PT1911AL. I love it too. My everyday concealed carry gun is the Taurus PT917 C with 17+1 rounds and a reload with a 20 round mag. All my 92's and 1911's from Taurus have been flawless throughout the years...
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,710
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I recently purchased a stainless Taurus 617, .357 mag., 7 rnd. wheel gun. I think it looks beautiful and it shoots great. However, I am a little disappointed in it's build quality. Specifically, the cylinder seems to have more play in it than any of my S&W wheel guns or for that matter my Rugers. I was telling a friend in a gun shop and he said it might seem that way uncocked but when you cock it the play would be gone. I went home and tried it. Same thing. As I said, it seems to shoot just fine so maybe I shouldn't be concerned. Just sayin.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 252
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I had a PT908 that was that way GOD I HATED THAT DAMN THING!!
I purchased it used from a guy I was in the National Guards with, he did tell me what it was doing. It would jam every other stinkin' round!! Took it to two very good gun smiths....same issue!!! ![]() I finally called Taurus one day and told them EVERYTHING, how I got it used and what it was doing. They told me to send it back, which I did. A few weeks later they sent it back fixed at NO CHARGE (except for shipping one way) and I have NEVER had one issuse with it since!! ![]() I even abused it, shot hundreds of rounds through it with out cleaning it, oiled it heavy, shot it more!! NOTHING WENT WRONG!!! I cannot say enough good about Taurus and their warrenty!!! I own 3 and they all work great!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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I like the jun
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Mesa, Az
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I've had three Taurus handguns a S/S PT92, .357mag and .38 snubnose. All functioned perfectly, never had an issue with any of them. My PT92 was an older model, bought it new about 10 years ago, sold it a few years ago. Wish I would have kept it now. i don't remember having problems loading the clips.
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Lindale, TX
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I love my PT92, BUT it did/does jam when I fire (or try to anyway) hollowpoints. The reason I have found is taurus did not harden the aluminum feedramp. The angle of feed is such that the rounds catch on the JHP edge and DIGS IN! I'm haning the local `smithy send the ramp out for a polish and hard chroming (or nitriding) whichever he recommends. I want to fire JHPs and not just FMJs.
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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What you may be stuck with is that it now will ride the ramp up but it comes in a to high of a angle and get stuck when the round hits the top of the chamber and can't camber over to fully feed into the chamber. But thats just my .02, maybe it will work well ![]() BTW welcome to the forum. Let us know if that fixes your issue.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Roanoke, Virginia
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I realize that I'm late to this thread but feel compelled to respond.
Your first issue was magazine loading. Perhaps your magazines were 10 round magazines. They are made and there are limitations in some parts of this country on magazine capacity. You do not indicate where you purchased the Pistol. You did not confirm that you were not using 10 round magazines. It's possible that you received 10 round magazines with your purchase. Hi-cap restrictions are here: http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/NoHiCapChemSpray.pdf Then you indicate that after 40 rounds, it jambs every other shot? Additionally you state that it's shooting 6-8 inches off your aim. There is no indication that you sought the assistance of an experienced pistol shooter or discussed the problems with the shop where you purchased the pistol. What a shame, you more than likely are the victim of your own lack of understanding and experience. Last edited by old jeff; 11-16-2010 at 05:21 PM.. Reason: Added Hi-cap restriction link |
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Former Guest
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 3,828
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out of close to 100 guns i have owned. not one was a taurus.
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Recently moved to Pennsylvania.
Posts: 286
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For people that have a hard time loading double stack magazines,
there is a mag loader on the market called the uplula magazine loader. It is sheer magic. It will load almost any pistol magazine double or single stack. Try it, it is worth the couple of bucks that it costs. Zeke |
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#42 |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL
Posts: 1,437
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If you want a 92-get the original. Made in Italy.
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Former Guest
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The mountains of NE TN.
Posts: 884
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I staked my life on the original (M9), and I would do the same with my Taurus version. Same goes for my PT1911. Same goes for my wife's PT709. If I am in the market for a handgun, and Taurus makes something similar, I will by the Taurus every time.
As to what the OP went through, yes the mags are hard to load till you learn how to do it. I guess I learned fairly quickly reloading for myself and 50 other pilots and crewchiefs on range days. It doesn't matter how big and strong you are, it only matters that you do it correctly. This, as has been stated, can account for jams in more way than one. Not only can two rounds jam against each other, but trying to force feed rounds into the mag almost always does damage. I'm guessing that the 6"-8" off of aimpoint was in your technique, and not the gun. If I can still hit doubles with it consistently, anybody can do it. |
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