zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 - Page 4 - The Firearms Forum

waynescyclegarage · 06-17-2011, 09:57 PM

My Tok holds tight groups but shoots low and left. I am going to move sights and don't know the best way to do it. I am thinking a punch and brass hammer and tapping the rear sight to the right and the front to the left???
help
wayne

waynescyclegarage · 06-17-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BONASABOB

$199.95 BECAME $205.95 when you used a credit card(+3%.) Fortunately there are guys like Mitja that know what they are talking about. Too bad we have to wade thru all the nuckleheads to find him. Where can I make bulk purchase of mil-surp 7.62x25 ammo? Prefer Polish but any source will do.

I figured that credit card thing out later and have no problem with that whatsoever. SOG has become my favotite along with JG
thanks
wayne

waynescyclegarage · 06-17-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BONASABOB

$199.95 BECAME $205.95 when you used a credit card(+3%.) Fortunately there are guys like Mitja that know what they are talking about. Too bad we have to wade thru all the nuckleheads to find him. Where can I make bulk purchase of mil-surp 7.62x25 ammo? Prefer Polish but any source will do.

Bonsabob isn't nuckle head usually spelt with a "K" as inKNUCKLEHEAD?"

cappaletti · 06-18-2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by waynescyclegarage

I understand that they were originaly made without a safety, BUT the safety on my gun is factory installed and not added by some importer. It works great, looks right and I like having it as it adds to the enjoyment and safe use of this fine pistol.
wayne

I totally agree! I have read in other forums that there are some problems with the safety on this pistol but a little "fine tuning" will alleviate this...happy shooting !!!

waynescyclegarage · 06-18-2011, 07:25 PM

Hey Polish shooter and others, I did adjust my rear sight and got it right the first time(luck). Also at about 30' i am now getting 3/4" groups!!! This is great for me as I am not an expert pistol marksman. This Tok is already my favorite and is as accurate as my MKII Ruger in my hands.
Happy Tok M57 owner
wayne

waynescyclegarage · 06-18-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cappaletti

I totally agree! I have read in other forums that there are some problems with the safety on this pistol but a little "fine tuning" will alleviate this...happy shooting !!!

I have had no problems with mine and it does not need any tuning. If this is an add on they did a great job. They had special left hand grips made with clearence for the safety, drilled a little indentation for the red warning dot, filed a perfect notch in the slide and then reblued to cover the damage from drilling and filing??? I am talking about the Yugo M57 with the safety above the left grip 1911 style.
happy shooting to you also, I am very pleased with mine. By the way I am half collector but mostly into shooting fine milsup guns. All my guns look good hanging on the wall but each one is a good shooter.
wayne

waynescyclegarage · 06-28-2011, 10:11 PM

M57 versus Walther P1. Just got a Walther P1 from JG. Nice gun, I have heard so much about these fine guns that I just had to have one. It shoots well with the 5"barrel so I kinda expected it to out perform my Tok which cost half the price.
Wrong!! At around 28' I was getting 3" groups with an occasional wild shot that may be 4 to 5" with the walther using Geco 124 gr ammo. With my Tok using the 84 gr Privi I am getting 3/4" goups with no wild shots!!

While the Walther is a fine gun there is no way I would swap my Tok for the Walther P1.
After a really rough start with the M57 it has turned out to be one of my best pistols in every way. I know the Walther is a DA and has some nice features but the Tok just seems more solid and indestructable.
wayne

permafrost · 06-29-2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by waynescyclegarage

M57 versus Walther P1. Just got a Walther P1 from JG. Nice gun, I have heard so much about these fine guns that I just had to have one. It shoots well with the 5"barrel so I kinda expected it to out perform my Tok which cost half the price.
Wrong!! At around 28' I was getting 3" groups with an occasional wild shot that may be 4 to 5" with the walther using Geco 124 gr ammo. With my Tok using the 84 gr Privi I am getting 3/4" goups with no wild shots!!

While the Walther is a fine gun there is no way I would swap my Tok for the Walther P1.
After a really rough start with the M57 it has turned out to be one of my best pistols in every way. I know the Walther is a DA and has some nice features but the Tok just seems more solid and indestructable.
wayne

I agree , Wayne.
The M57's are very accurate. At least thats been my result. I've had to do some tuning and lightening of the trigger group, but its easy to work on, being modular like that. Factory pull has been atrocious. I like them so much, I bought two. I tuned one til it was light and smooth. No. 1 Granson "borrowed" it. Always had some excuse when I requested the return. His B-day rolled around(I think I got played) and I wound up making him a present of it! Oh well. Now I gotta tune #2.

waynescyclegarage · 07-07-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by permafrost

I agree , Wayne.
The M57's are very accurate. At least thats been my result. I've had to do some tuning and lightening of the trigger group, but its easy to work on, being modular like that. Factory pull has been atrocious. I like them so much, I bought two. I tuned one til it was light and smooth. No. 1 Granson "borrowed" it. Always had some excuse when I requested the return. His B-day rolled around(I think I got played) and I wound up making him a present of it! Oh well. Now I gotta tune #2.

What did you do to the trigger? I would like to improve on the trigger but do not know how to go about it. Do you just polish some of the surfaces or something else. I have not looked at it closely.
wayne

ac398 · 07-14-2011, 02:06 AM

I just ordered an M57 from classic arms. I havent seen one from them before but from what I hear they have quality milsurp, and I went with the handpick option. any1 here have experience with these??

Also is there a website with some good basic info about the tokarev. For those of you familiar with the makarov, Im talking about a site like makarov dot com where everything from basic details of the gun to disassembly and modifications are discussed. Im having a hard time finding alot of info on these toks in one central location, i just keep finding websites giving out the history of the gun.

woolleyworm · 07-14-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ac398

I just ordered an M57 from classic arms. I havent seen one from them before but from what I hear they have quality milsurp, and I went with the handpick option. any1 here have experience with these??

Also is there a website with some good basic info about the tokarev. For those of you familiar with the makarov, Im talking about a site like makarov dot com where everything from basic details of the gun to disassembly and modifications are discussed. Im having a hard time finding alot of info on these toks in one central location, i just keep finding websites giving out the history of the gun.

Welcome to TFF, there isn't one big website with everything Tok unfortunately. ( or at least I've never found one yet ) What info are you looking for specifically? A very decent price from Classic too. YouTube has some good cleaning/takedown videos.

Have you found a good supply of ammo for it yet? It's been pretty spotty lately in finding much.

ac398 · 07-14-2011, 02:32 AM

Actually for ammo the guy at classic told me they had just gotten ammo in, forgot to ask the damn price though. unforntunately ive maxed out my budget for a few weeks, just bought a makarov also 2 days ago so I couldnt pick some up. What are the best places to get ammo if classic runs out before I can get some, Ive heard a lot about cheap ammo and use jg for my maks and some other stuff but theyre talking 175 for 500 rounds and ive heard about $50-$75 for 1000 rds of milsurp ammo.

As far as as questions mainly about serial numbers and date codes, also how to get the cosmoline off of these guys, i know with the maks you can boil them before a mineral oil bath, not sure if the toks like this ( i dont see why not, but Id rather ask first). Once I get my tok and start messing around with it im sure ill have more questions,m should have it at the beginning of next week.

woolleyworm · 07-14-2011, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ac398

Actually for ammo the guy at classic told me they had just gotten ammo in, forgot to ask the damn price though. unforntunately ive maxed out my budget for a few weeks, just bought a makarov also 2 days ago so I couldnt pick some up. What are the best places to get ammo if classic runs out before I can get some, Ive heard a lot about cheap ammo and use jg for my maks and some other stuff but theyre talking 175 for 500 rounds and ive heard about $50-$75 for 1000 rds of milsurp ammo.

As far as as questions mainly about serial numbers and date codes, also how to get the cosmoline off of these guys, i know with the maks you can boil them before a mineral oil bath, not sure if the toks like this ( i dont see why not, but Id rather ask first). Once I get my tok and start messing around with it im sure ill have more questions,m should have it at the beginning of next week.

Ammo has been out of stock for awhile, but here in the past week, I've seen a little bit start showing up. Best place is anywhere you can find it when it's scarce. I like J&G also, good folks. Last time I bought some, I paid $90 for 860 rounds.

Fast Forward · 07-17-2011, 08:56 PM

Just got back from the Range ,,first time shooting my Yugo M-57 ,,a lot of people complain about the heavy recoil,,I didn,t think it was all that bad,,put about 80 rds thru it without a hitch,,It shoots high and left but I,m positive it,s me didn,t get a chance to switch out the barrel and go 9MM but theres always next week, best 200.00 semi auto on the market

waynescyclegarage · 07-19-2011, 12:26 AM

Hi FF, My first time shootin' my M57 was disapointing but it was just me. It always takes me a while to get a new gun right in my hands. The first time I shot it I was really disappointed, I could not hit anything but now it is one of my most accurate pistols. I had some ammo problems and got that sorted out and now I would not trade it for anything. Hang in there and it will be one of your best friends.
wayne

ac398 · 07-21-2011, 03:26 PM

hey where are you huys getting your surplus tokarev ammo right now i only know of 1 or 2 places to lookj and they dont have it right now

waynescyclegarage · 07-21-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ac398

hey where are you huys getting your surplus tokarev ammo right now i only know of 1 or 2 places to lookj and they dont have it right now

Right now I don't think any of us are getting any, all my regular supliers are out.

ac398 · 07-22-2011, 12:54 AM

Ya I cant seem to find some anywhere and I just got my m57 a couple days ago and I got an itchy trigger finger, even the places like buymilsurp where its kinda pricey are out.

waynescyclegarage · 08-04-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast Forward

Just got back from the Range ,,first time shooting my Yugo M-57 ,,a lot of people complain about the heavy recoil,,I didn,t think it was all that bad,,put about 80 rds thru it without a hitch,,It shoots high and left but I,m positive it,s me didn,t get a chance to switch out the barrel and go 9MM but theres always next week, best 200.00 semi auto on the market

I also did not find the recoil to be that offensive as compared to my other hand guns. Actually my CZ 82 seems to cause me more pain but not bad and I do like that gun also.

waynescyclegarage · 08-06-2011, 09:24 PM

Hi Permafrost and others, such as Polish shooter. I ordered some ammo from Reeds Ammo 6 weeks ago and have not heard a word or Email. Is this normal? I know they said it might be a while. Also thanks to Permafrost directing me to Marchal grips I ordered a set of wrap around walnut,oil finished grips with lanyard and safety cut out and can't wait to get them. My Tok is one of the " prettyiest" pistols and think they will dress it up nicely and help with the feel. But it takes a long time as they warned me it could be 6 to 8 weeks before they ship.
The more I shoot it the more accurate it gets! wonder why?
Anyway still LUV this gun and think I got a special one

. What was that I read and I quote: " this is my gun. There are many more like it but this one is mine"
Have fun guys
wayne

cappaletti · 08-07-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by waynescyclegarage

Hi Permafrost and others, such as Polish shooter. I ordered some ammo from Reeds Ammo 6 weeks ago and have not heard a word or Email. Is this normal? I know they said it might be a while. Also thanks to Permafrost directing me to Marchal grips I ordered a set of wrap around walnut,oil finished grips with lanyard and safety cut out and can't wait to get them. My Tok is one of the " prettyiest" pistols and think they will dress it up nicely and help with the feel. But it takes a long time as they warned me it could be 6 to 8 weeks before they ship.
The more I shoot it the more accurate it gets! wonder why?
Anyway still LUV this gun and think I got a special one

. What was that I read and I quote: " this is my gun. There are many more like it but this one is mine"
Have fun guys
wayne

the quote ":this is my gun....." comes from the movie Full Metal Jacket...

jmace57 · 08-09-2011, 09:12 PM

This is my rifle...
This is my gun...
This one's for fightin'...
This one's for fun...

waynescyclegarage · 08-09-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jmace57

This is my rifle...
This is my gun...
This one's for fightin'...
This one's for fun...

LUV it never heard that one before

cappaletti · 08-10-2011, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by waynescyclegarage

LUV it never heard that one before

boot camp is notorious for these kinds of sayings...

waynescyclegarage · 08-10-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cappaletti

boot camp is notorious for these kinds of sayings...

I am a navy vet also, that would be a great marching chant but the ones I remember were more sexually orientated

Ordered some Marchal grips for mine and still waiting, I'll post some pics when I can.
wayne

06-17-2011, 09:57 PM	#76
waynescyclegarage V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 124	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 My Tok holds tight groups but shoots low and left. I am going to move sights and don't know the best way to do it. I am thinking a punch and brass hammer and tapping the rear sight to the right and the front to the left??? help wayne

06-18-2011, 07:25 PM	#80
waynescyclegarage V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 124	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 Hey Polish shooter and others, I did adjust my rear sight and got it right the first time(luck). Also at about 30' i am now getting 3/4" groups!!! This is great for me as I am not an expert pistol marksman. This Tok is already my favorite and is as accurate as my MKII Ruger in my hands. Happy Tok M57 owner wayne

06-28-2011, 10:11 PM	#82
waynescyclegarage V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 124	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 M57 versus Walther P1. Just got a Walther P1 from JG. Nice gun, I have heard so much about these fine guns that I just had to have one. It shoots well with the 5"barrel so I kinda expected it to out perform my Tok which cost half the price. Wrong!! At around 28' I was getting 3" groups with an occasional wild shot that may be 4 to 5" with the walther using Geco 124 gr ammo. With my Tok using the 84 gr Privi I am getting 3/4" goups with no wild shots!! While the Walther is a fine gun there is no way I would swap my Tok for the Walther P1. After a really rough start with the M57 it has turned out to be one of my best pistols in every way. I know the Walther is a DA and has some nice features but the Tok just seems more solid and indestructable. wayne

07-14-2011, 02:32 AM	#87
ac398 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 Actually for ammo the guy at classic told me they had just gotten ammo in, forgot to ask the damn price though. unforntunately ive maxed out my budget for a few weeks, just bought a makarov also 2 days ago so I couldnt pick some up. What are the best places to get ammo if classic runs out before I can get some, Ive heard a lot about cheap ammo and use jg for my maks and some other stuff but theyre talking 175 for 500 rounds and ive heard about $50-$75 for 1000 rds of milsurp ammo. As far as as questions mainly about serial numbers and date codes, also how to get the cosmoline off of these guys, i know with the maks you can boil them before a mineral oil bath, not sure if the toks like this ( i dont see why not, but Id rather ask first). Once I get my tok and start messing around with it im sure ill have more questions,m should have it at the beginning of next week.

07-17-2011, 08:56 PM	#89
Fast Forward Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chaska Minn Posts: 529	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 Just got back from the Range ,,first time shooting my Yugo M-57 ,,a lot of people complain about the heavy recoil,,I didn,t think it was all that bad,,put about 80 rds thru it without a hitch,,It shoots high and left but I,m positive it,s me didn,t get a chance to switch out the barrel and go 9MM but theres always next week, best 200.00 semi auto on the market

07-14-2011, 02:06 AM	#85
ac398 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4	I just ordered an M57 from classic arms. I havent seen one from them before but from what I hear they have quality milsurp, and I went with the handpick option. any1 here have experience with these?? Also is there a website with some good basic info about the tokarev. For those of you familiar with the makarov, Im talking about a site like makarov dot com where everything from basic details of the gun to disassembly and modifications are discussed. Im having a hard time finding alot of info on these toks in one central location, i just keep finding websites giving out the history of the gun.

07-19-2011, 12:26 AM	#90
waynescyclegarage V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 124	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 Hi FF, My first time shootin' my M57 was disapointing but it was just me. It always takes me a while to get a new gun right in my hands. The first time I shot it I was really disappointed, I could not hit anything but now it is one of my most accurate pistols. I had some ammo problems and got that sorted out and now I would not trade it for anything. Hang in there and it will be one of your best friends. wayne

07-21-2011, 03:26 PM	#91
ac398 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 hey where are you huys getting your surplus tokarev ammo right now i only know of 1 or 2 places to lookj and they dont have it right now

07-22-2011, 12:54 AM	#93
ac398 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 Ya I cant seem to find some anywhere and I just got my m57 a couple days ago and I got an itchy trigger finger, even the places like buymilsurp where its kinda pricey are out.

08-06-2011, 09:24 PM	#95
waynescyclegarage V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 124	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 Hi Permafrost and others, such as Polish shooter. I ordered some ammo from Reeds Ammo 6 weeks ago and have not heard a word or Email. Is this normal? I know they said it might be a while. Also thanks to Permafrost directing me to Marchal grips I ordered a set of wrap around walnut,oil finished grips with lanyard and safety cut out and can't wait to get them. My Tok is one of the " prettyiest" pistols and think they will dress it up nicely and help with the feel. But it takes a long time as they warned me it could be 6 to 8 weeks before they ship. The more I shoot it the more accurate it gets! wonder why? Anyway still LUV this gun and think I got a special one. What was that I read and I quote: " this is my gun. There are many more like it but this one is mine" Have fun guys wayne

08-09-2011, 09:12 PM	#97
jmace57 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 119	Re: zastava m57/ tokarev 7.62x25 This is my rifle... This is my gun... This one's for fightin'... This one's for fun...