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Anti-Gun Senate to Ban Private Gun Sales
Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) have joined Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy, to introduce legislation to eliminate the private transfers of firearms and close the nation's "gun show loophole." YOU ARE IRRATIONAL IF YOU SUPPORT PRIVATE GUN SALES "There is no rational reason to oppose closing the loophole. The reason it's still not closed is simple: the continuing power of the special interest gun lobby in Washington" Sen. Lautenberg said ignoring the Constitution. Click Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators Lautenberg went on to add still more to the "90% Obama Mexican Gun Lie": "Thirty percent of the guns that go to Mexico are bought at gun shows." With NO supporting evidence Lautenberg continued, "We don't know whether they're bought from unlicensed dealers, but logic would say let's have some idea who it is that bought those guns and what their intentions might be." Lautenberg and the Gun Grabbers in the Senate are also lying about the Virginia Tech gunman who had a background check at a legal gun store to justify themselves. There were abundant warning signs that he posed a serious threat to the campus. Yet he was running loose because the gun check system failed. NO SUCH THING AS 'GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE' Independence Institute researcher David Kopel has written about the "gun show loophole," concluding that it is a myth: Says Kopel: "Despite what some media commentators have claimed, If a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its "instant" background check" CRIME GUNS DO NOT COME FROM GUN SHOWS The Bureau of Justice Statistics report entitled "Firearms Use by Offenders" found that less than one percent - 0.7%, to be exact - of guns used in crimes originated at gun shows. NICS: DEFACTO GUN REGISTRATION New York (D) Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand proposed computerized background checks be retained creating a de facto gun registration system and Lautenberg's Bill proposes private transactions be added to this registration system. LAUTENBERG'S MOTIVES Motives for eliminating gun shows are twofold: First, gun shows are a powerful tool in defeating gun control legislation. Second, eradicate the gun show and gun culture altogether. All that seems to be on the minds of the Anti-Gun Senators and at the offices of gun control extremists is figuring out how to exploit tragedy to erode and eventually destroy the right, and the means, of self-defense. Click Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators Now the Anti-Gun Coalitions are trying to use tragic events to destroy gun shows and the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms to protect themselves under the law. They are attacking and hiding behind an Anti-Terrorist Agenda while getting political and financial support from: George Soros a Hungarian-born billionaire bank rolling efforts with his check book and spending more that $100 million to destroy the Constitution. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) admitted that "guns would be banned and confiscated" if she could have her way. The United Nations actively pushes globalism seeking to disarm all Americans. We must Stop the Anti-Gun Coalition and get ready for the biggest gun control fight of the year from coast to coast. We can not do that without your support. Stand up against this attack! Stand up for the right to not only defend yourself, but to defend your family, your children, your friends, and your classmates! Click Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill, slap it down hard. The legislation is cosponsored by Sens. Dick Durbin (D-IL), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Charles Schumer (D-NY), John Kerry (D-MA), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Carl Levin (D-MI), Ben Cardin (D-MD) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) and Robert Menendez (D-NJ). In order to stop Schumer, Kerry and Kennedy and there fellow gun-grabbers-we need to let the Congress know with thousands of faxes telling them to leave guns alone. Americans like you who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation...and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands. So please, help the Citizens Committee and me defeat those who wish to gut and trash the United States Constitution. Help me flood the U.S. Senate with a sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Senator willing to vote away the Second Amendment. Please, send your Donation and FAX TODAY! Click Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators Keep calling your Senators today, toll free numbers include 1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121 AND REGISTER YOU'RE OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to take guns away! CALL PRESIDENT Obama, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS. DO NOT BE SILENCED - MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD! NOTE: We need TENS OF THOUSANDS of faxes and PHONE CALLS and EMAILS delivered to ALL Senators right away! For our projects to be successful, we must count on the voluntary financial support from individuals like you who care. Your contribution of $20 or $25 is urgently needed today. Your donation for just $10 will help so much. If you can afford to send $50 or $100 or more it would truly be a godsend. Remember, protecting our freedom is not inexpensive. But then, it's impossible to put a price tag on freedom. CLICK HERE to DONATE NOW. The rights you save may be your own! Together, we can preserve the Constitutional rights our Founding Fathers intended our people to have forever. For more information about CCRKBA click here. Please let me know your decision right away. Thank you. 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But....but....BUT....the big "O" said he was going to leave gun laws alone.....
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Thanks for the article Running.
He sure did say that, but the devil is in the details Pickenup. He didn’t say that he would veto such a bill if it was on his desk therefore effectively supporting such a bill. I bet those people at Handgun Control Inc ® or whatever it is called today are mad because they haven’t pasted any gun control measures yet. But back to SB 843, a newspaper, or even this site could fall under this definition. This could be a great way to shut down web sites that are not politically correct. (36) GUN SHOW- The term `gun show' means any event-- `(A) at which 50 or more firearms are offered or exhibited for sale, transfer, or exchange, if 1 or more of the firearms has been shipped or transported in, or otherwise affects, interstate or foreign commerce; and `(B) at which-- ‘’(i) not fewer than 20 percent of the exhibitors are firearm exhibitors; ‘’(ii) there are not fewer than 10 firearm exhibitors; or ‘’(iii) 50 or more firearms are offered for sale, transfer, or exchange.
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And now that I think about it, they don't even have to let you have a bullet. 2A doesn't say anything about ammo. Like MT's post said, you need to let your senators (especially the moderates, blue dogs, and the Rino's) know your opinion and that you tire of their endless, ongoing attempts to slowly disarm the American public under the guise of public safety. I wouldn't even bother with the co-sponsors, their minds are made up. Just as important, is our continued effort to educate young people on the importance of the 2A. I think we often over emphasize the value of SD against the bad guys, when the purpose of the 2A was for SD against tyranny. It's all we can do until 2010, when we vote them out. |
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Dont understand why Lautenberg D senator from NJ and Feinstien D senator Ca would care there are no gun shows in thier republics anyway...
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Don't let your guard down, but that bill is going nowhere. It's main purpose is to get money from the anti-gun gang to line the pockets of a couple of corrupt Senators.
Still, we need to publicize those efforts, because it gives the lie to the Democrats' claims that they are not anti-gun. Jim |
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Yeah just like he promised us hope and change, or how he wasn't going to support special interest groups and then turns around and has ACORN, and all the other things he promised to do and never did. I still want to see his birth certificate.
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Their lives suck so they have to do everything they can to make sure that everyone else's suck too. They are like the rest of the Democrats. They think they know what is best for everyone.
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Bo Bo IS leaveing the gun laws alone , He has specialists to do that for him
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I know its just a matter of time till they mount up an assult on guns. Look at health care and toyota. When they come i guarentee they are going to play for keeps. It will be a fight like no other.
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This "gun show loophole" thing isn't a Congressional issue, which is why nothing has happened. Interstate transactions by unlicensed individuals is already illegal; Congress has no authority over intrastate transactions (whether the members of Congress will admit it or not).
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I agree Cyclone..... & I'm looking forward to the fight. ![]() I can't afford to run for POTUS & figure there's no other way to be directly involved w/ righting the wrongs in our society. IMHO, it will start w/ a ban on all firearms & will progress into more..... MUCH MORE. ![]() SR
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Why don't they just ban criminals? Oh wait, that would be as effective as a gun ban
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LMAO, thats a good one )
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The United States lacks the legal power or authority to regulate intrastate transfers of personal property. All issues regarding the ownership, possession and use of firearms within a state can be regulated only by that state. U.S.Const.Amendment 10.
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It is called subjugation.
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