We are no longer a Christian Nation???????

[swiftman]

President Barack Obama said in Turkey : "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."


I found this very interesting.

Do you know the Preamble for your state? .

Be sure to read the message at the bottom!


Alabama 1901, Preamble We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution..

Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.

Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona , grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...

California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...

Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe...

Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.

Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences...

Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida , grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...

Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...

Hawaii 1959, Preamble We , the people of Hawaii , Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution.

Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.

Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana , grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.

Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the State of Iowa , grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.

Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.

Kentucky 1891, Preamble.. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties..

Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana , grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.

Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction.

Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...

Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction

Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this Constitution.

Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:

Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.

Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness. Establish this Constitution...

Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ..

Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom . Establish this Constitution.

Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution...

New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.

New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty..

New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.

North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those...

North Dakota 1889, Preamble We , the people of North Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common.

Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences

Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbley invoking His guidance....

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing...

South Carolina , 1778, Preamble We, the people of the State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties ...

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI..III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of the conscience...

Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas , acknowledge with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.

Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.

Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man ..

Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other

Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution

West Virginia 1872, Preamble Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God ...

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility...

Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming , grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution...

After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong!

If you found this to be 'Food for thought' send to as many as you think will be enlightened as I hope you were

[XShooter]

That's the first time I've seen all those preambles together. Thank you for sharing that.

[Tony22-250]

aww man you beat me to it i got this e-mail today was going to put it up here

hmmm barry has just lost more points in my book. whats below negative?

also didn't he say something along those lines before ?

[Bill DeShivs]

As much as I dislike BO, none of those preambles says anything about Christianity-only the belief in God.

[Marlin T]

I guess that it is kind of implied beings that they don’t say Allah, Buddha, Elohim, Jehovah, Shiva, the list goes on and on…

[fr3db3ar]

Agreed....if you believe in God, you believe in Christ.....ergo christians

[Trouble 45-70]

Look at all those probable terrorist states. Didn't Baraq say there were 56 states? There must be 6 more that feel like he does. Let's see...State of Denial, State of Never Mind, State of Progress(ive), State of Mind(less), State of Moral Turpitude and State of Mendacity. Did I miss any?

[swiftman]

One more time.

It is impossible to rightly Govern a nation with out God and the Bible.
George Washington

The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: It connected the one indissoluble bond of the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity: John Quincy Adams


The Bible is the rock on which this Republic rests.
Andrew Jackson


I believe there are 56 muslim states but will have to verify this.

[bcj1755]

This country was founded on Christian ideals. The founding of this country was God's will. How else could an army made up of a very small percentage of the colonial population be able to defeat the greatest military and colonial power of the day?

[XShooter]

Originally Posted by fr3db3ar

Agreed....if you believe in God, you believe in Christ.....ergo christians

Ahhhh...but not so. Many people believe in God but do not believe that Christ is the messiah. The Jews are the most obvious example.

More than a handful of founding fathers and revolutionary generals and leaders were Freemasons. Freemasonry requires a belief in a "supreme being" but not necessarily in Jesus. It is even said that your supreme being can be "allah," or "buddah" or whoever you want it to be - as long as you have a belief in one. Ironically, all masonic oaths are taken over an open bible and biblical (not necessarily Christian) principles permeate throughout masonic life. For many leaders during the time of the revolution, masonry was church.

You may also find it interesting to note that George Washington found it impossible to reconcile Freemasonry with Christianity and stopped attending his lodge. The same thing also happened to me shortly after I reached the degree of Knight Templar. While some might not agree, I do not believe it is possible to be a follower of Christ and a Freemason at the same time.

I would not rush to assume that the United States deliberately began as a "Christian" nation. Many people may innocently think and say that it did, but I would encourage people to do their own research. Thank God that many biblical principles and divine truth seeped into the hearts of men and subsequently the founding documents of our nation!

If you dig into this subject deeply, I believe you will find that our nation adhered to many "biblical" principles, but not necessarily "Christian" values. There is a difference. While many founders were undoubtedly also Christians, there were many who were not, yet they respected biblical truths. The awesome founders that are quoted above on this thread are just a few of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

Whatever conclusion you may believe, one thing is for certain: God indeed chose to bless this nation!

[4EvrLearning]

Great post, XShooter....I have come to understand the same information you've presented here. Thanks for summarizing it so well.

[XShooter]

One of these days you'll have to tell me "how" you came to understand it! I know what "I" had to go through - and it wasn't all pretty! haha

[Urban_Black_Redneck]

There is only one "God" and it doesn't matter whether you are a Christian, Catholic, Jew, Hindu, or whatever.

I am going to become a devotee of Hare Krishna. Which will be my religion for serving God.

We are a nation under God, but no we are not a nation of a specific religion.

[RunningOnMT]

Honestly I must confess I don't care for the term "Christian nation". We are a nation which has historically had a predominantly Christian population founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Just calling us a Christian nation seems to exclude the Jewish population.

More than this, being a Christian isn't a requirement for citizenship. We have athiest, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, and Wiccan citizens etc. Thankfully the principles of these religions were not used as a basis for our laws and constitution. For this reason, we must guard against political correctness dictating changes in our laws to accomodate the beliefs of these other religions, particularly with the influx of Muslims into the United States. They are welcome here and may practice their beliefs as long as they qualify for citizenship and accept our Judeo-Christian tradition inspired system of law and justice.

Having said all of the above I reserve my right to discriminate at the polls and refuse to vote for anyone who is neither Christian or Jew.

[GMFWoodchuck]

I might consider myself an atheist, but I would have to say that I am in a miniscule minority and that we are definitely a christian nation as a whole.

[carver]

I hate to say it, but O is right! We are not a Christian Nation! Yes, our Nation was founded on Christian principles, but we abandonded our founding fathers beliefs many years ago. However, "We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values", needs to be looked at closer. The first word, We, means himself. What ideas are we bound by, the law? A set of values, what values? Cheat your neighbor? Lie? Do what ever you want? Remember, you are not a criminal, untill you get caught! Any Nation that operates on a the idea that it is bound by certain, undefined ideas, and an ambiguous set of values that have never, and can never, be defined, isn't going to stand for long! As a Nation, we should not be asking God to bless us, we should be blessing God.

[wpage]

One nation under
God.
In God we Trust.
Who is Gods Son?

[lentz]

Last poll taken says 85% of Americans are Christian.
I believe 85% say they are,but aren't.
If there were that many,there would be no queers,rapists,child molesters,gang violence,robberies murders or any thing else contrary to Christianity
The only time 99% of Americans call on God,is when they are sick or in trouble.
Maybe in the 1700's,but not a Christian nation today. IMO of course.

[jack404]

I went back to Cambodia nd left a Christian nation , when i returned it was not a Christian nation but a multi cultural nation,

now when we talk about Australian culture all those from failed nations who come here belittle our culture as only a few hundred years old and being worthless..

their cultures are thousands of years old and must be respected

so why the hell are they all here hiding from their own nation while getting my money via welfare?

my nation is what we the people say it is and the people are getting a gutfull

vote for Christ

vote for your nation

vote for your future and vote the lowlifes out

all of them

[coreyacp]

What is wrong with sharing the ideals of others and getting along and as Americans strive to build a better society.
oh wait thats right you guys have a bunch of evidence on how im wrong and how its not possible and Christians should be the only ones who run our country and make our policies. sorry im just a dumb 18 year old.

[coreyacp]

Originally Posted by carver

I hate to say it, but O is right! We are not a Christian Nation! Yes, our Nation was founded on Christian principles, but we abandonded our founding fathers beliefs many years ago. However, "We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values", needs to be looked at closer. The first word, We, means himself. What ideas are we bound by, the law? A set of values, what values? Cheat your neighbor? Lie? Do what ever you want? Remember, you are not a criminal, untill you get caught! Any Nation that operates on a the idea that it is bound by certain, undefined ideas, and an ambiguous set of values that have never, and can never, be defined, isn't going to stand for long! As a Nation, we should not be asking God to bless us, we should be blessing God.

I agree Carver

[coreyacp]

Originally Posted by lentz

If there were that many,there would be no queers

Excuse me sir I do not use the N word or any other forms of hate language towards women race or suxuality. please sir.

[jack404]

Originally Posted by coreyacp

What is wrong with sharing the ideals of others and getting along and as Americans strive to build a better society.
oh wait thats right you guys have a bunch of evidence on how im wrong and how its not possible and Christians should be the only ones who run our country and make our policies. sorry im just a dumb 18 year old.

Corey a few weeks ago here we have a kaliphate conference , you have one in Chicago (sp?) recently too

know what that is ?

theres many out there who dont give a hoot about any of us except as consumers, or other income stream and then theres others still who want us dead , you me anyone not like them, gays too... dead..

should we PC them right through the door ?

we have done so here and now we have no go zones in my own nation

i read their publications and they are declaring the mosque at ground zero is proof they have won!, that many now "forget" and are more interested in their jobs than being taken over

the laws are that way now

laws for us and laws for them

they want sharia law for them and if we PC it the way we have they will get it

then you'll see whats happening in the Uk and here happening in the USA

and it'll be you being so nice and even minded that will allow this


sometime my friend you have to draw a line in the sand and say no more

sadly such is a time

or do you want it so its like all the other places they have done this ?

most notably in the balkans and former soviet subjects

as thats where this will end up

people are selling out your nation, they sold mine out a few years ago

your nation is you

soon if it continues you'll be second class and the illegals and imports will be the first class and almost untouchable

while more of them appear and live the handout life you'll have to work to support them , not all are jihadists , but most will cost you money , the mexicans work now as illegals for less than welfare money , you think they'll work if made citizens and given more to not work ?

it did not work that way here when we did it

nor in the UK and every other place its been done

one would hope you'd look at the world and realise WTF is going on , but i see your a MSM puppy, been breast fed the "stuff" for that long you beleive things will be just ok if we truely hope

we may hope

but other have had plans going for way too long and are proceeding wether we hope or not

time to make the stand corey



pc will get you extinct

[coreyacp]

Sir all do respect but there are evil people in every religious organization around the world but in every organization there is good an the majority tends to lean towards good. And excuse me but I will not let fear and hate from a minority from another religion dictate how I live. I am an American. I will not discriminate because of your gender. I will not discriminate because of your race. I will not discriminate because of your religous beliefs. I will not discriminate because of someones sexual orientation. I will not discriminate against someones nationality. I will judge the individual on there character. I am sorry sir but you who think this is a Christian country and should be ran by only Christians are mistaken. You all are good men but I am an American. And my job as an american is right on our statue of liberty and it reads
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door

So I will not back down
I will never let FEAR
and hate take over me
I am an American an i will do everything I can to make sure everyone has equal rights as me and to never discriminate

[jack404]

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30)

And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)

I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)

The weak ones there will give us our dream
they will fight for us ,

all we must do is inherit it
one world one Islam , no exceptions

Ayatolla Homeini