Barry will give a speach. - The Firearms Forum

Charlie the sniper · 06-02-2009, 06:15 PM

I see that Barry is going to give a speech, that will be aimed at Muslims. Oh, and he will be asking the Israelis to give up some of their settlements.

USMC-03 · 06-02-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie the sniper

I see that Barry is going to give a speech, that will be aimed at Muslims.

I thought he was against torture...

Charlie the sniper · 06-02-2009, 06:27 PM

cycloneman · 06-02-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie the sniper

I see that Barry is going to give a speech, that will be aimed at Muslims. Oh, and he will be asking the Israelis to give up some of their settlements.

Really, that going to go over like a turd in the punch bowl.

bcj1755 · 06-02-2009, 06:51 PM

Well Barry can relate to the Muslims. After all, he is one himself.

Charlie the sniper · 06-02-2009, 07:00 PM

He did an interview on British TV tonight, seems strange that he told us Brits about it, before he told America.

bcj1755 · 06-02-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie the sniper

He did an interview on British TV tonight, seems strange that he told us Brits about it, before he told America.

Was it Barry giving the interview, or was it Mr. Teleprompter?

OBrien · 06-02-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bcj1755

Was it Barry giving the interview, or was it Mr. Teleprompter?

Does it matter? I always thought they were one in the same.

4EvrLearning · 06-02-2009, 10:49 PM

From The Times (UK) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6418576.ece

June 3, 2009

Barack Obama on landmark mission to rebuild ties with Muslim world

(photo here: A souvenir shop displaying a T-shirt for sale reading "Obama, new Tutankhamon of the world" in Cairo)

President Obama’s arrival in Saudi Arabia today marks the first leg of a landmark Middle East visit to reach Muslims and mend ties damaged under the eight-year Administration of his predecessor, George Bush.

The three-day visit, including an address to the Muslim world at Cairo University tomorrow, is seen as a vital step in his efforts to relaunch peace efforts between Israel and the Palestinians.

Mr Obama has signalled that he will take a more even-handed approach than Mr Bush, who gave Israel a free hand to expand the growth of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank.

Israel has bridled at US demands that it should freeze all construction in the settlements and East Jerusalem. Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, flew to Washington last night to lobby the US President one more time. Israel says that the half million Jews who live in the territories cannot be prevented from having children, marrying or building houses. At the outset of his trip Mr Obama issued his sternest warning yet to Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister. “I believe that strategically the status quo is unsustainable when it comes to Israel’s security,” Mr Obama said in an interview with the US broadcaster NPR. “Over time, in the absence of peace with Palestinians, Israel will continue to be threatened militarily and will have enormous problems on its borders.”

He said that the sobering message to Israel was meant as a friendly warning. “Part of being a good friend is being honest,” said the President, who held talks with Mr Netanyahu last month at the White House. Mr Netanyahu has refused to accept the idea of an independent Palestinian state, which Washington sees as a cornerstone of Middle East peace.

Mr Obama is said to be basing his approach on a seven-year-old Saudi peace initiative, whereby Israel would gain acceptance from the Muslim world if it withdrew from the lands it took in 1967.

He is expected to encourage Arab states to allow more political freedom and respect for human rights. Some critics said that his meetings with the oil-rich Saudi King and President Mubarak, who has ruled Egypt for almost three decades, could undermine his message of reform in the region.

Mr Obama told the BBC that he hoped America could be a role model to the Muslim world. “Democracy, rule of law, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, those are not simply principles of the West to be hoisted on these countries — but rather what I believe to be universal principles that they can embrace and affirm as part of their national identity.”

Ayman al-Nour, Egypt’s most renowned dissident who was jailed for three yearsin 2005, voiced dismay that the US leader was not making a more explicit call for reforms. “We are astonished with the approach that ignores civil society and political parties,” he said. “We see there is a retreat from campaign promises [on democracy promotion] and that there is an attempt to separate American principles and American interests.”

Asked about US backing for the Egyptian regime, which according to human rights groups holds thousands of political prisoners, Mr Obama was evasive, refusing to say whether he would call Mr Mubarak authoritarian. “I tend not to use labels for folks*,” he said.

*4Evr's Note: No...he doesn't use labels...but his ad.ministration is allowed to label his fellow "co.untrymen," (for the sake of argument) calling them te.rrorists just because they want their go.vernment to uphold their co.nstitutional rig.hts!)

obxned · 06-03-2009, 07:35 AM

More bowing and butt-kissing.

45nut · 06-03-2009, 07:52 AM

There once was a POTUS named Obama,
Who was birthed in Kenya by his Momma,
His certificate can't be found,
We're getting the run around,
Now we'll lose the U.S. because of this Drama.

(Alternate ending: Too much dribbled down the leg of his Papa)

Snakedriver · 06-03-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by obxned

More bowing and butt-kissing.

Yeah, I wonder who he's going to bend over for this time???

I wish he'd quit apologizing to the world for all our sins, the bad guys are going to see it as a sign of our weakness and then we'll be in trouble agian.

If I was Israel, I'd just thumb my nose at him!

USMC-03 · 06-03-2009, 09:28 AM

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...the bad guys are going to see it as a sign of our weakness and then we'll be in trouble agian.

GOING to see it as a sign? They saw those signs back in November, as did those Americans willing to look beyond the U.S.A branch of Pravda (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc., etc.). But hey, the ChiComs now own Hummer, so everything is right with the world.

GMFWoodchuck · 06-03-2009, 09:33 AM

Another speech I didn't listen too. Why would I? He's just going to lie again.

carver · 06-03-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GMFWoodchuck

Another speech I didn't listen too. Why would I? He's just going to lie again.

Can't stand the man! When the news does a story on him, I change the channel. I can't stand the man!

4EvrLearning · 06-03-2009, 09:49 AM

GMF and carver: I agree with each of your sentiments (and reactions). Indeed, a wave of nausea comes over me when I hear his voice....but there are times when I force myself to listen because I want to be aware of the lies, and the course he's setting. If I can read his speeches or comments, that's somewhat better.

bcj1755 · 06-03-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 4EvrLearning

GMF and carver: I agree with each of your sentiments (and reactions). Indeed, a wave of nausea comes over me when I hear his voice....but there are times when I force myself to listen because I want to be aware of the lies, and the course he's setting. If I can read his speeches or comments, that's somewhat better.

Even reading his speaches nauseates me. Whenever I see him on TV, I have to change the channel because I end up yelling and screaming at the TV.

carver · 06-03-2009, 10:17 AM

4EvrLearning, please forgive me, but I know who he is, I know that anything he has to say, I won't like. I know that when his mouth moves, he is lying. He is a liar, and a thief. He will steal the truth from you as fast as he can. I will not trust anything I hear him say, even if I see it in print. I know that no matter what he says, or does, it will not be in my, or the Countries, best interest. I couldn't stand Bill Clinton for what he was and for what he stood for, but this guy is so much worse than old Bill ever thought about being. He has already done more damage to this country than any enemy we have ever had. If the devil appeared before me right now, it would not effect me any more than to have him in my presence. IMHO, he is the devils tool.

Trouble 45-70 · 06-03-2009, 10:38 AM

The Thief in Chief wants Mobarac to release political prisoners. These political Prisoners are primarily the Muslim Protherhood. The originator and supporter of most of the Muslim terrorists in the world. They murdered Moubaraks predicessor and will murder him and as many of his government as they can if released. If Israel dosn't watch out he will steal Judea and Samaria and give it to the Muslem murderers of Hamas. Then they will be able to saturate Israel with rockets from end of the country to the other.

45nut · 06-03-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bcj1755

Even reading his speaches nauseates me. Whenever I see him on TV, I have to change the channel because I end up yelling and screaming at the TV.

I am with you on this. I don't listen to his lies or news stories on him because I can't afford a new TV!

4EvrLearning · 06-03-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

4EvrLearning, please forgive me, but I know who he is, I know that anything he has to say, I won't like. I know that when his mouth moves, he is lying. He is a liar, and a thief. He will steal the truth from you as fast as he can. I will not trust anything I hear him say, even if I see it in print. I know that no matter what he says, or does, it will not be in my, or the Countries, best interest. I couldn't stand Bill Clinton for what he was and for what he stood for, but this guy is so much worse than old Bill ever thought about being. He has already done more damage to this country than any enemy we have ever had. If the devil appeared before me right now, it would not effect me any more than to have him in my presence. IMHO, he is the devils tool.

carver: I wasn't taking issue with you at all. I am SO on track with how you feel, and with your assessment of the person.

Quite literally (from a biblical perspective) I do believe he is being used by the evil one to bring about at least some of the things which have been foretold.

Kind of ironic, isn't it? B. O. thinks he's so powerful....and yet he's a puppet of the most pathetic kind in the hands of the ultimate evil one. The only reason he has any "power" is because God has allowed it for His purposes and His ultimate glory.

RunningOnMT · 06-03-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

4EvrLearning, please forgive me, but I know who he is, I know that anything he has to say, I won't like. I know that when his mouth moves, he is lying. He is a liar, and a thief. He will steal the truth from you as fast as he can. I will not trust anything I hear him say, even if I see it in print. I know that no matter what he says, or does, it will not be in my, or the Countries, best interest. I couldn't stand Bill Clinton for what he was and for what he stood for, but this guy is so much worse than old Bill ever thought about being. He has already done more damage to this country than any enemy we have ever had. If the devil appeared before me right now, it would not effect me any more than to have him in my presence. IMHO, he is the devils tool.

+1

RunningOnMT · 06-03-2009, 12:41 PM

You all realize of course that by thinking and speaking this way we qualify as raving right wing lunatics?

4EvrLearning · 06-03-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunningOnMT

You all realize of course that by thinking and speaking this way we qualify as raving right wing lunatics?

You mean "hair-flippin' raving right.-wing lunatics"? YEP! ~

~

45nut · 06-03-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 4EvrLearning

You mean "hair-flippin' raving right.-wing lunatics"? YEP! ~

~

I'm a pony tail flippin raving right wing lunatic.

06-02-2009, 06:15 PM	#1
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bcj1755 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A wretched hive of scum and villiany Posts: 4,357	Re: Barry will give a speach. Well Barry can relate to the Muslims. After all, he is one himself. __________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - Cicero If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams

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Charlie the sniper Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: England, thats the USN aircraft carrier near europe. Posts: 751	Re: Barry will give a speach. He did an interview on British TV tonight, seems strange that he told us Brits about it, before he told America. __________________ Never Forget, the price paid for Freedom.

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4EvrLearning Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Left Coast Posts: 1,449	Re: Barry will give a speach. From The Times (UK) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6418576.ece June 3, 2009 Barack Obama on landmark mission to rebuild ties with Muslim world (photo here: A souvenir shop displaying a T-shirt for sale reading "Obama, new Tutankhamon of the world" in Cairo) President Obama’s arrival in Saudi Arabia today marks the first leg of a landmark Middle East visit to reach Muslims and mend ties damaged under the eight-year Administration of his predecessor, George Bush. The three-day visit, including an address to the Muslim world at Cairo University tomorrow, is seen as a vital step in his efforts to relaunch peace efforts between Israel and the Palestinians. Mr Obama has signalled that he will take a more even-handed approach than Mr Bush, who gave Israel a free hand to expand the growth of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank. Israel has bridled at US demands that it should freeze all construction in the settlements and East Jerusalem. Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, flew to Washington last night to lobby the US President one more time. Israel says that the half million Jews who live in the territories cannot be prevented from having children, marrying or building houses. At the outset of his trip Mr Obama issued his sternest warning yet to Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister. “I believe that strategically the status quo is unsustainable when it comes to Israel’s security,” Mr Obama said in an interview with the US broadcaster NPR. “Over time, in the absence of peace with Palestinians, Israel will continue to be threatened militarily and will have enormous problems on its borders.” He said that the sobering message to Israel was meant as a friendly warning. “Part of being a good friend is being honest,” said the President, who held talks with Mr Netanyahu last month at the White House. Mr Netanyahu has refused to accept the idea of an independent Palestinian state, which Washington sees as a cornerstone of Middle East peace. Mr Obama is said to be basing his approach on a seven-year-old Saudi peace initiative, whereby Israel would gain acceptance from the Muslim world if it withdrew from the lands it took in 1967. He is expected to encourage Arab states to allow more political freedom and respect for human rights. Some critics said that his meetings with the oil-rich Saudi King and President Mubarak, who has ruled Egypt for almost three decades, could undermine his message of reform in the region. Mr Obama told the BBC that he hoped America could be a role model to the Muslim world. “Democracy, rule of law, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, those are not simply principles of the West to be hoisted on these countries — but rather what I believe to be universal principles that they can embrace and affirm as part of their national identity.” Ayman al-Nour, Egypt’s most renowned dissident who was jailed for three yearsin 2005, voiced dismay that the US leader was not making a more explicit call for reforms. “We are astonished with the approach that ignores civil society and political parties,” he said. “We see there is a retreat from campaign promises [on democracy promotion] and that there is an attempt to separate American principles and American interests.” Asked about US backing for the Egyptian regime, which according to human rights groups holds thousands of political prisoners, Mr Obama was evasive, refusing to say whether he would call Mr Mubarak authoritarian. “I tend not to use labels for folks,” he said. 4Evr's Note: No...he doesn't use labels...but his ad.ministration is allowed to label his fellow "co.untrymen," (for the sake of argument) calling them te.rrorists just because they want their go.vernment to uphold their co.nstitutional rig.hts!) __________________ *"Until God is finished with me, I am immortal." Jonathan Edwards, American Theologian (1703-1758)* Last edited by 4EvrLearning; 06-02-2009 at 10:52 PM..

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45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,433	Re: Barry will give a speach. There once was a POTUS named Obama, Who was birthed in Kenya by his Momma, His certificate can't be found, We're getting the run around, Now we'll lose the U.S. because of this Drama. (Alternate ending: Too much dribbled down the leg of his Papa) __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

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4EvrLearning Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Left Coast Posts: 1,449	Re: Barry will give a speach. GMF and carver: I agree with each of your sentiments (and reactions). Indeed, a wave of nausea comes over me when I hear his voice....but there are times when I force myself to listen because I want to be aware of the lies, and the course he's setting. If I can read his speeches or comments, that's somewhat better. __________________ *"Until God is finished with me, I am immortal." Jonathan Edwards, American Theologian (1703-1758)*

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carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,541	Re: Barry will give a speach. 4EvrLearning, please forgive me, but I know who he is, I know that anything he has to say, I won't like. I know that when his mouth moves, he is lying. He is a liar, and a thief. He will steal the truth from you as fast as he can. I will not trust anything I hear him say, even if I see it in print. I know that no matter what he says, or does, it will not be in my, or the Countries, best interest. I couldn't stand Bill Clinton for what he was and for what he stood for, but this guy is so much worse than old Bill ever thought about being. He has already done more damage to this country than any enemy we have ever had. If the devil appeared before me right now, it would not effect me any more than to have him in my presence. IMHO, he is the devils tool. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

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Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Barry will give a speach. The Thief in Chief wants Mobarac to release political prisoners. These political Prisoners are primarily the Muslim Protherhood. The originator and supporter of most of the Muslim terrorists in the world. They murdered Moubaraks predicessor and will murder him and as many of his government as they can if released. If Israel dosn't watch out he will steal Judea and Samaria and give it to the Muslem murderers of Hamas. Then they will be able to saturate Israel with rockets from end of the country to the other.

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RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Barry will give a speach. You all realize of course that by thinking and speaking this way we qualify as raving right wing lunatics?