No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year - The Firearms Forum

358 winchester · 06-11-2009, 04:58 PM

And so it continues... more proof Obama is clueless about Amreican traditions or what being an American means...wake up America!

No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year - Threat to the Dear Leader Inside the Beltway - Washington Times

No Weapons for Anyone Next will be medals, awards and campaign ribbons. They have sharp edges.

From today's you couldn't make it up if you tried file.......Obama's protectors have ordered graduating Midshipmen....and I suppose Commissioned Officers through Flag rank...to leave their swords at home. Full Dress White includes "wear sword". More to the point...those badges of office have been earned in a manner Obongo and his minions just wouldn't begin to understand. Important traditions that inspire are kind of lost on the red banner crowd, apparently.

Further, ceremonial swords never seemed to bother the Secret Service for any previous President. And before World War II, the swords were not particularly "ceremonial", I've seen some of those blades, boarding actions did occur on the China Station pre-war against river pirates, warlords, etc. Those swords were worn not just to graduation, but to Inaugurations, in the receiving line at the White House afterward, to the Inaugural Ball. Somehow nobody gave it a second thought. Somehow even Presidents in the past didn't presume to specify items of uniform.

But of course, what worked for Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan, F.D.R., the Bushes, T.R., any other rational non-cult leader.....doesn't work for this former state senator anointed by the Chicago machine.

Does he secretly consider our Naval and Military leaders "the enemy"? Perhaps the message this sends escaped his handlers. Sad. And .....follow me on this Obama and minions.....insulting. Actually it's contemptible.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...tway-97423759/

kutaho · 06-11-2009, 05:10 PM

Thats desecration to a hard earned heritage

Its not our traditions he should fear, but his own paranoia!

ponycar17 · 06-11-2009, 05:14 PM

Wow, I knew the military didn't really like the clown but I didn't realize they actually scared him?... That's just sad and embarrassing...

I bet he's also told foreign leaders that there will be no ceremonial cannon fire while he's around too. Watch this video...

Obama jumps due to Ceremonial Cannon in Turkey

Honestly though, I'd have jumped too!

45Auto · 06-11-2009, 05:59 PM

Try walking into an airport or courthouse in our paranoid USA. I had a mini gold pocket knife on a pocket watch chain and the courthouse guard made me take it back to my car.

Bobitis · 06-11-2009, 06:37 PM

Where did his security get their weapons training?

DisneyLand?

CrackerJack box?

Marlin T · 06-11-2009, 07:13 PM

Muslim
America is a muslim country
Muslims that don't agree with each otherm cut off the heads of those who don't agree.
He knows the troops don't respect him.
Very simple logic for me to follow. Obombas I Slamic ways are showing again.

Marlin · 06-11-2009, 07:47 PM

I'd hate to go through life as paranoid as he obviously seems to be.....

OBrien · 06-11-2009, 09:06 PM

So the commander in chief says take your machine guns and go overseas and fight but while I'm around your not competent enough to have a blade near me and my security. What does that say for our country's military.

Bruce FLinch · 06-12-2009, 12:09 AM

The ceremonial swords aren't even sharpened are they? Maybe they could just substitute rubber swords or to appease us, let the Midshipmen carry a picture of a sword..

45Auto · 06-12-2009, 08:37 AM

I have had some experience with security and law enforcement, and to be honest, we don't in fact know who issued this silly no-sword order. While in theory the comander in chief must take responsibility for things done in his name, in fact it was more likely some fool lower down the chain of command who made this stupid decission.

I'd like to see some follow-up on this issue. Insulting military officers is no small issue.

Trouble 45-70 · 06-12-2009, 09:48 AM

At 15-20' a drawn sword can be driven home (point first) by a skilled fencer faster than you can draw a pistol and fire. That's why you don't ever let an assailant with a knife closser than 15' before you shoot him. Drawing the weapon however is another matter. Secret Service would have him before he cleared the scabord. Suicide mission anyway. I think Marlin T has Obamas number.

bcj1755 · 06-12-2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin T

Muslim
America is a muslim country
Muslims that don't agree with each otherm cut off the heads of those who don't agree.
He knows the troops don't respect him.
Very simple logic for me to follow. Obombas I Slamic ways are showing again.

Bingo! As a Muslim, Barry would have a fear of a sword. I bet he's scared that a Muslim Midshipman might try to cut his head off

Oh wait, but Islam is the "religion of peace"

Tom Militano · 06-12-2009, 11:15 AM

I still want to see his birth certificate!

torpedoman · 06-12-2009, 10:16 PM

you know you get a certificate at both ends of the trip the other one may be here sooner than the one your looking for.

Oldeyes · 06-13-2009, 08:34 AM

The tradition for the police cadets graduating from the Columbus, OH police academy is for them to graduate wearing their duty sidearms. When BHO came to town to attend the graduation for the class of 25 that his emergency $1M governmental grant rescued (for a one year period only), none of the graduates or the other ranking attendees were allowed to be armed. So, it is not only the military that BHO is concerned about doing him in. And at a somewhat related anecdotal level, I read somewhere just prior to the BHO coronation that the death threats received against BHO before January 20th were greater in number than the total of those received against George W. in his two terms.

06-11-2009, 04:58 PM	#1
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year And so it continues... more proof Obama is clueless about Amreican traditions or what being an American means...wake up America! No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year - Threat to the Dear Leader Inside the Beltway - Washington Times No Weapons for Anyone Next will be medals, awards and campaign ribbons. They have sharp edges. From today's you couldn't make it up if you tried file.......Obama's protectors have ordered graduating Midshipmen....and I suppose Commissioned Officers through Flag rank...to leave their swords at home. Full Dress White includes "wear sword". More to the point...those badges of office have been earned in a manner Obongo and his minions just wouldn't begin to understand. Important traditions that inspire are kind of lost on the red banner crowd, apparently. Further, ceremonial swords never seemed to bother the Secret Service for any previous President. And before World War II, the swords were not particularly "ceremonial", I've seen some of those blades, boarding actions did occur on the China Station pre-war against river pirates, warlords, etc. Those swords were worn not just to graduation, but to Inaugurations, in the receiving line at the White House afterward, to the Inaugural Ball. Somehow nobody gave it a second thought. Somehow even Presidents in the past didn't presume to specify items of uniform. But of course, what worked for Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan, F.D.R., the Bushes, T.R., any other rational non-cult leader.....doesn't work for this former state senator anointed by the Chicago machine. Does he secretly consider our Naval and Military leaders "the enemy"? Perhaps the message this sends escaped his handlers. Sad. And .....follow me on this Obama and minions.....insulting. Actually it's contemptible. http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...tway-97423759/ __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand? -->

06-11-2009, 05:10 PM	#2
kutaho Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,852	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year Thats desecration to a hard earned heritage Its not our traditions he should fear, but his own paranoia! __________________ No man stands in the same river twice If all else fails grab a rock Mi Taku oyasin

06-11-2009, 05:14 PM	#3
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year Wow, I knew the military didn't really like the clown but I didn't realize they actually scared him?... That's just sad and embarrassing... I bet he's also told foreign leaders that there will be no ceremonial cannon fire while he's around too. Watch this video... Obama jumps due to Ceremonial Cannon in Turkey Honestly though, I'd have jumped too! __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book Last edited by ponycar17; 06-12-2009 at 05:47 AM..

06-11-2009, 05:59 PM	#4
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,124	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year Try walking into an airport or courthouse in our paranoid USA. I had a mini gold pocket knife on a pocket watch chain and the courthouse guard made me take it back to my car.

06-11-2009, 06:37 PM	#5
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year Where did his security get their weapons training? DisneyLand? CrackerJack box? __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

06-11-2009, 07:13 PM	#6
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year Muslim America is a muslim country Muslims that don't agree with each otherm cut off the heads of those who don't agree. He knows the troops don't respect him. Very simple logic for me to follow. Obombas I Slamic ways are showing again. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

06-11-2009, 07:47 PM	#7
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year I'd hate to go through life as paranoid as he obviously seems to be..... __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

06-11-2009, 09:06 PM	#8
OBrien Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangor Maine Posts: 554	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year So the commander in chief says take your machine guns and go overseas and fight but while I'm around your not competent enough to have a blade near me and my security. What does that say for our country's military.

06-12-2009, 12:09 AM	#9
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year The ceremonial swords aren't even sharpened are they? Maybe they could just substitute rubber swords or to appease us, let the Midshipmen carry a picture of a sword.. __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

06-12-2009, 08:37 AM	#10
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,124	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year I have had some experience with security and law enforcement, and to be honest, we don't in fact know who issued this silly no-sword order. While in theory the comander in chief must take responsibility for things done in his name, in fact it was more likely some fool lower down the chain of command who made this stupid decission. I'd like to see some follow-up on this issue. Insulting military officers is no small issue.

06-12-2009, 09:48 AM	#11
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year At 15-20' a drawn sword can be driven home (point first) by a skilled fencer faster than you can draw a pistol and fire. That's why you don't ever let an assailant with a knife closser than 15' before you shoot him. Drawing the weapon however is another matter. Secret Service would have him before he cleared the scabord. Suicide mission anyway. I think Marlin T has Obamas number. Last edited by Trouble 45-70; 06-12-2009 at 09:52 AM..

06-12-2009, 11:15 AM	#13
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year I still want to see his birth certificate!

06-12-2009, 10:16 PM	#14
torpedoman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: chattaroy wa. Posts: 65	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year you know you get a certificate at both ends of the trip the other one may be here sooner than the one your looking for. __________________ never pull your pistol til the talking is all done. When you pull it shoot.

06-13-2009, 08:34 AM	#15
Oldeyes V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 223	Re: No Naval Swords for U.S.N.A. Graduation this year The tradition for the police cadets graduating from the Columbus, OH police academy is for them to graduate wearing their duty sidearms. When BHO came to town to attend the graduation for the class of 25 that his emergency $1M governmental grant rescued (for a one year period only), none of the graduates or the other ranking attendees were allowed to be armed. So, it is not only the military that BHO is concerned about doing him in. And at a somewhat related anecdotal level, I read somewhere just prior to the BHO coronation that the death threats received against BHO before January 20th were greater in number than the total of those received against George W. in his two terms.