failure to feed - The Firearms Forum

solitrav · 06-23-2009, 07:23 PM

I have a springfield 1911, milspec, bought new. it has had feed pro blems since I bought it. doesn't seem to matter what magazine I use, ( I have used factory mags, wilson combat mags and milspec 1911 mags) feed failures happen with all types of ammo fmj,jhp or beb. Either the slide will not return fully to battery (which can be corrected by a slight tap to the rear of the slide) or the cartridge will jam halfway up the feed ramp, which requires removing the mag and retracting the slide to clear. I have replaced the factory return spring with a stronger one...no help there... full stoppages occour mostly on the first cartridge out of the mag. partial stoppages seem to be random. Any Ideas?

Shooter45 · 06-23-2009, 07:45 PM

This will be a slow process without having the pistol here on the bench. Are you shooting reloads? If so, what is the overall length.
When is the last time the chamber was cleaned ?

You mentioned a stronger recoil spring. Is it over #18.5 ?

johnlives4christ · 06-23-2009, 08:06 PM

im by no means an expert, but if the gun is new, i would say it needs some light work done to it, such as polish the feed ramp, and barrel hood, very very very slight softening of the chamber mouth at the feed ramp area, sharp edges off of the locking lugs of the barrel and mating edges of the slide. make sure there is no burrs or sharp edges on the firing pin hole in the breech face. and a good cleaning and lube. as i say im no expert, but from the 1911's, and for that matter, most other types of pistols i have encountered new, need some attention to these areas that isn't given at the factory, since hand work is basically non existant in a firearms production environment now. but since im not an expert on any gun, much less the 1911.. .take my advice with a grain of salt

~john

johnlives4christ · 06-23-2009, 08:08 PM

also in the work that i would suggest would be to take any sharp edges or burrs off of the slide/frame rail area with some 600 grit paper,

Alpo · 06-23-2009, 08:36 PM

Me, I'd put it in a box and send it to Springfield. "Hey, Springfield. Gun no worky. Make it work, or send me another'n."

You should not have to do gunsmithing on new guns.

johnlives4christ · 06-23-2009, 08:43 PM

ats good advice alpo... i think if you complain to springfield they will pay shipping both ways too

Stealie · 07-07-2009, 12:21 AM

A new pistol should work right out of the box, I would send it back to Springfield to make it right.

glocknut · 07-07-2009, 12:25 AM

Its been since 6-23 that he has made this post and has not elaborated any further on the problem or given us an update. Makes me wonder....

Jesus...i can't believe i am defending 1911s

mike
gn

johnlives4christ · 07-07-2009, 02:24 AM

hey glocknut... you should be more like me. just admit you love all guns

Doc1911 · 07-07-2009, 03:24 AM

This sounds like an ejector problem. Ask SA to pin the extractor and not merely glue it as they have been known to do .....

glocknut · 07-07-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnlives4christ

hey glocknut... you should be more like me. just admit you love all guns

Oh..Ok. I guess i do love all guns. some more than others.

mike
gn

JUNKKING · 07-07-2009, 07:38 PM

I agree with alpo, Its new and should run fine. I would send it back to Springfield and have them work the bugs out. I hear people say al the time they need to be broke in. I believe a gun is like a pair of shoes. If they don't work as soon as you try them on, They will always give you trouble. Maybe I have been lucky. All of the semi auto pistols I have ever bought ran flawlessly out of the box with an exception to a Ruger P 94 I had that didn't like to get hot. Just my two cents, JUNK

delta13soultaker · 07-07-2009, 09:11 PM

Polish the feed ramp.

06-23-2009, 07:45 PM	#2
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,790	Re: failure to feed This will be a slow process without having the pistol here on the bench. Are you shooting reloads? If so, what is the overall length. When is the last time the chamber was cleaned ? You mentioned a stronger recoil spring. Is it over #18.5 ?

06-23-2009, 08:06 PM	#3
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: failure to feed im by no means an expert, but if the gun is new, i would say it needs some light work done to it, such as polish the feed ramp, and barrel hood, very very very slight softening of the chamber mouth at the feed ramp area, sharp edges off of the locking lugs of the barrel and mating edges of the slide. make sure there is no burrs or sharp edges on the firing pin hole in the breech face. and a good cleaning and lube. as i say im no expert, but from the 1911's, and for that matter, most other types of pistols i have encountered new, need some attention to these areas that isn't given at the factory, since hand work is basically non existant in a firearms production environment now. but since im not an expert on any gun, much less the 1911.. .take my advice with a grain of salt ~john

06-23-2009, 08:08 PM	#4
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: failure to feed also in the work that i would suggest would be to take any sharp edges or burrs off of the slide/frame rail area with some 600 grit paper,

06-23-2009, 08:36 PM	#5
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,771	Re: failure to feed Me, I'd put it in a box and send it to Springfield. "Hey, Springfield. Gun no worky. Make it work, or send me another'n." You should not have to do gunsmithing on new guns. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

06-23-2009, 08:43 PM	#6
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: failure to feed ats good advice alpo... i think if you complain to springfield they will pay shipping both ways too

06-23-2009, 07:23 PM	#1
solitrav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NM Posts: 10	failure to feed I have a springfield 1911, milspec, bought new. it has had feed pro blems since I bought it. doesn't seem to matter what magazine I use, ( I have used factory mags, wilson combat mags and milspec 1911 mags) feed failures happen with all types of ammo fmj,jhp or beb. Either the slide will not return fully to battery (which can be corrected by a slight tap to the rear of the slide) or the cartridge will jam halfway up the feed ramp, which requires removing the mag and retracting the slide to clear. I have replaced the factory return spring with a stronger one...no help there... full stoppages occour mostly on the first cartridge out of the mag. partial stoppages seem to be random. Any Ideas? -->

07-07-2009, 12:21 AM	#7
Stealie Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 42	Re: failure to feed A new pistol should work right out of the box, I would send it back to Springfield to make it right. __________________ We can't stop *here...this is bat counrty! Μολὼν λάβε* *Res Ipsa Loquitur*

07-07-2009, 12:25 AM	#8
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: failure to feed Its been since 6-23 that he has made this post and has not elaborated any further on the problem or given us an update. Makes me wonder.... Jesus...i can't believe i am defending 1911s mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

07-07-2009, 02:24 AM	#9
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: failure to feed hey glocknut... you should be more like me. just admit you love all guns

07-07-2009, 03:24 AM	#10
Doc1911 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 874	Re: failure to feed This sounds like an ejector problem. Ask SA to pin the extractor and not merely glue it as they have been known to do ..... __________________ _____ Sincerely, Doc NRA Life Member

07-07-2009, 07:38 PM	#12
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,817	Re: failure to feed I agree with alpo, Its new and should run fine. I would send it back to Springfield and have them work the bugs out. I hear people say al the time they need to be broke in. I believe a gun is like a pair of shoes. If they don't work as soon as you try them on, They will always give you trouble. Maybe I have been lucky. All of the semi auto pistols I have ever bought ran flawlessly out of the box with an exception to a Ruger P 94 I had that didn't like to get hot. Just my two cents, JUNK __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

07-07-2009, 09:11 PM	#13
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: failure to feed Polish the feed ramp. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt