Senate committee passes (unhealthy) care

[armedandsafe]

I'm not going to say anything just now, as I don't want to have to ban myself.

Senate panel OKs plan to revamp health care system
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writers Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar And Ben Feller, Associated Press Writers
1 hr 2 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama achieved a milestone Wednesday when a Senate committee approved a plan to revamp the U.S. health care system.

The Senate panel's action, which attracted no Republican votes, came as the president's campaign organization rolled out television ads to build support for his top domestic priority.

Obama met with Republicans at the White House in search of an elusive bipartisan compromise on his call to expand coverage to the nearly 50 million uninsured Americans as well as restrain spending increases in health care.

But the 13-10 party-line vote in the Senate health committee signaled a deepening rift in Congress. While Democrats respond to Obama's call for action with renewed determination, Republicans are using harsher words to voice their misgivings.

In the House, Democrats began pushing legislation through the first of three committees, although moderate and conservative members of the rank and file were demanding changes. In the Senate, lawmakers were considering fees on health insurance companies as a new source of potential financing for a $1 trillion package that's short on funds.

"We have delivered on the promise of real change," Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said as he presided over the Senate health committee vote, alluding not only to his bill but also to Obama's campaign promise.

The president was in the Rose Garden for the latest in a daily series of public appeals to Congress to "step up and meet our responsibilities" and move legislation this summer. Obama also pushed his message in network television interviews, telling employers that his plan would require them to offer benefits or face a fine.

"If you can afford it, either give your employees health insurance or pay into the pot so that we're not subsidizing you," Obama told CBS News.

He also reversed a campaign stance against requiring everyone to buy health care coverage.

"I'm now in favor of some sort of individual mandate as long as there's a hardship exemption," he said. "If somebody truly just can't afford health insurance even with the subsidies that the government is now providing, we don't want to double penalize them."

Wednesday's Senate health committee vote "should make us hopeful — but it can't make us complacent," Obama said. "It should instead provide the urgency for both the House and the Senate to finish their critical work on health reform before the August recess."

The health panel's $615 billion measure would require individuals to get health insurance and employers to contribute to the cost. The bill calls for the government to provide financial assistance with premiums for individuals and families making up to four times the federal poverty level, or about $88,000 for a family of four, a broad cross-section of the middle class.

Obama wants the House and Senate to act on health care this summer so lawmakers can reconcile differences in their respective bills after Labor Day and put final legislation on his desk this fall.

Obama's all-out effort since he returned from his overseas trip last week has "galvanized things," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said.

Obama met at the White House with Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Bob Corker of Tennessee and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.

"I urged him not to rush consideration of the bill," Collins told reporters later. "This bill is going to affect virtually every American. If the president tries to rush this through in the next two weeks ... I fear the process will be very divisive."

Another senior Republican, whom Obama courted only a few months ago to become his commerce secretary, also sounded alarm bells.

"This supposed health care fix is a health care failure and a disaster for the American people," Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., said. "We still have time to turn this process around instead of steamrolling our country into a sub-par government-run plan, but it will require serious action from Democrats and Republicans and a pledge to put politics aside."

The debate is taking on a campaign-like edge. In the cross-hairs are moderate senators, Democrats and Republicans, whose votes could make the difference in a closely divided Senate.

Obama's political organization launched a series of 30-second television ads on health care, which were to begin airing Wednesday in Washington and on cable TV nationally. A version will run for two weeks on local stations in Arkansas, Indiana, Florida, Louisiana, Maine, North Dakota, Nebraska and Ohio to prod senators to back the health care effort.

In the ads, private citizens describe problems they've had with the medical system and say it's time for action. The sponsor is Organizing for America, Obama's campaign organization, which has become part of the national Democratic Party. The group would not reveal the cost.

Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., one of the lawmakers targeted, said the ads would not affect his decision. He has concerns that the evolving Democratic plans would give government too big a role.

Obama planned White House meetings Thursday with Nelson and Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, another potential swing vote.

Obama supports a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, but he says he doesn't want to overturn the system of employer-sponsored health benefits that has served middle-class families for better than half a century. He wants the legislation to be fully paid for and the total cost kept around $1 trillion over 10 years.

"The American people have to recognize that there's no such thing as a free lunch, right?" Obama told NBC News. "So we can't just provide care to everybody that has no costs whatsoever."

Wednesday's vote in the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee took the Senate only part of the way toward passage of an overhaul bill. Another panel, the Finance Committee, still has to unveil its approach. The plan is to combine the two bills for a floor vote.

Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., met Wednesday with committee Democrats to try to settle how to pay for the bill and other issues, and later met with moderate Democrats who don't sit on his panel.

Obama has pushed Baucus to have a bill ready by week's end, but Baucus declined to say whether he'd made a timetable commitment to the president or whether he'd be able to deliver by Friday. "We're just not quite there," Baucus said.

Baucus is aiming for a bipartisan bill. He praised the health committee's work but said of their legislation: "That's a partisan bill."

"I think it's virtually impossible to get 60 votes on a partisan bill," Baucus said, referring to the number needed to advance legislation in the 100-member Senate.

Finance Committee members are considering a proposal from Schumer that would raise $100 billion over 10 years by imposing new fees on health insurance companies.

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Associated Press writers Erica Werner and Alan Fram contributed to this report.

[topper]

this health care farce will absolutely bankrupt the poor people, along with the 'cap and trade' and the 'economic stimulus'. where is all the money for this coming from? we have lost 2 million jobs since jan '09 and who is paying for these programs. the economic stimulus is a failure as unemployment went up, the cap and trade will drive our energy bills through the roof and now we will be forced to pay for health care. our children are saddled with enourmous debt, that i doubt will ever be paid because before long no one in america will have a job, except for government. on my very limited retirement income, any increase in anything sends me to re-figuring my monthly budget and looking at what i can elimanate to pay for increases. STOP SPENDING MY MONEY, MR. PRESIDENT. i cannot afford you!




Keep both barrels loaded, if ya can afford to!

[bcj1755]

"If you can afford it, either give your employees health insurance or pay into the pot so that we're not subsidizing you," Obama told CBS News.

Huh?! He's saying that he DOES NOT want to subsidize healthcare? But isn't that what socialised medicine is, GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HEALTHCARE?!?! Does Obama even KNOW what socialised medicine is, or is he just blindly following orders from his puppetmasters?! I wonder if this guy has even opened a book in his lifetime. I mean, we can pretty much assume that he's never read the Constitution, even though he claims to be a "Constitutional scholar." I guess he just smiles and nods when the puppetmasters tell him to push the healthcare issue

He also reversed a campaign stance against requiring everyone to buy health care coverage.

"I'm now in favor of some sort of individual mandate as long as there's a hardship exemption," he said. "If somebody truly just can't afford health insurance even with the subsidies that the government is now providing, we don't want to double penalize them."

That's not a reversal. He's not saying, "I'm no longer in favor of forcing people to have health insurance." That line is nothing but a smokescreen to try and calm those of us that KNOW what this is REALLY all about...more gov't control over our lives. Well, sorry Barry, but I ain't buying it, you Marxist douchebag And where are these alleged government subsidies he's speaking of? Last time I was working, I had insurance and the gov't sure as crap wasn't helping me pay for it. I guess he means medicaid. Well, around here you can only get medicaid if you have kids (preferably if you have multiple kids with multiple fathers out of wedlock), if you're an alcoholic or a doper (because those are disabilities that prevent you from working), or (and this is the EASIEST way to get it) if you're an illegal alien (of coures they make a big noise and pay lip service to verifying immigration status, but once Pablo Fenceclimber makes himself an anchor baby, all that verification goes right out the window and he's on the state funded gravytrain).

[Southern Boy]

BHO is a turd. why is the stimulas not working? i would not be hiring anyone right now, with cap and steal, forced health scare etc.. It's time to downsize, sell off stocks, (if you can unload them)Buy gold and outsource. Dont the dems know there killing all bussiness? Well exept for the gun and ammo bussiness. If you got money, hide it, dont invest, earn less for now and you can possibly hold your own. good for me, but not America. Last time we could not hold our heads high as Americans was when carter was in office, ...this is even worse. Now we got all the TV ad's about getting your big government hand outs. Think I'll cash out and retire. Every man for himself untill the revolt comes along.

[ponycar17]

If we have all this money on tap or can raise it quickly through some devious tax-the-rich scheme then why the heck haven't they fixed Social Security already?...

The answer is that the money isn't on tap and can't be readily raised. These idiots want us to get the plan in motion and then the massive tax increases on EVERYONE will be imposed after the fact...

It's too bad most Americans' only let themselves get caught up in critical thought about the cell phone ringtone they buy next.