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old semperfi · 10-11-2009, 08:16 AM

at times i have very slight hangfire on a cva cap lock,anybody have any preferences as to best brand-type nipples or suggestions.i throughly clean and lube (non petroleum)all my guns and run clean patch b-4 shooting

quigleysharps4570 · 10-11-2009, 09:43 AM

On my caplocks I use a pipe cleaner with alcohol to clean the nipple and drum and a alcohol patch in the bore before loading...don't recall any hangfires.

jjmitchell60 · 10-11-2009, 12:34 PM

Buy a Hot shot nipple and try it. It does help to put a hotter flame to the powder. Also mase sure the drum is good and clean as is the hole going into tyhe barrel. You can take the drum off and clean them.

Oldbull · 10-11-2009, 05:37 PM

after you clean the barrel with a clean patch but before you add any powder try firing off a couple of caps to clean the vent hole. Point the firearm at a cluster of grass and then pop the cap. if the grass moves then you have a clear vent.

Artemus · 10-11-2009, 06:47 PM

I have a CVA that gave me some hangfires with Pyrodex.I went back to black powder and no more problems.

Win73 · 10-18-2009, 04:01 PM

I missed a nice buck opening morning of muzzleloader season last year because of a hang fire with my NEF Huntsman .50 caliber. I didn't pop a cap on it before loading it. You can bet that I will this year.

Shooter45 · 10-18-2009, 05:13 PM

ALWAYS pop a cap before loading a ML to clean any oil or dirt from the drum.

Joe M · 10-18-2009, 05:21 PM

I would venture to say your hang fires are do to the channel from the drum to the breech getting solvent or oil setting in it after cleaning.

A couple things you can do is flush that area with a bit of alcohol after cleaning (make sure it comes out the nipple with a plastic tube over the nipple to direct the alcohol away from the stock, then swab the bore completely dry (the alcohol will evaporate) - then remove the nipple and use a pipe cleaner and work it in towards the breech as best you can,,, lube your bore and store the rifle - muzzle down. The next day run a clean dry patch in and out of the bore. You'd be surprised what collects in the breech of a muzzle loader when they are stored with the muzzle up after a cleaning and lube job.

Firing off a few caps before loading is never a bad idea. As a matter of fact it's a good idea!

Don't try to remove a CVA Drum as you will never get it back in - and get it aligned properly. Those are chucked in by machine as I understand it and I've heard and seen the horror stories of folks who finally broke the drum free - got it out, but never got it back in.

Using real black powder is by far the best powder to use in any muzzle loader as the fake powders create a oily type residue in the bore and this can and will eventually run down into the breech causing a hang fire and/or failure to fire.

10-11-2009, 08:16 AM	#1
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	click bang at times i have very slight hangfire on a cva cap lock,anybody have any preferences as to best brand-type nipples or suggestions.i throughly clean and lube (non petroleum)all my guns and run clean patch b-4 shooting -->

10-11-2009, 09:43 AM	#2
quigleysharps4570 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 161	Re: click bang On my caplocks I use a pipe cleaner with alcohol to clean the nipple and drum and a alcohol patch in the bore before loading...don't recall any hangfires.

10-11-2009, 12:34 PM	#3
jjmitchell60 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raised in Buzzard Roost near Frog Town in hillls of Kentucky Contributor Posts: 1,471	Re: click bang Buy a Hot shot nipple and try it. It does help to put a hotter flame to the powder. Also mase sure the drum is good and clean as is the hole going into tyhe barrel. You can take the drum off and clean them. __________________ Oath Keepers NOT ON OUR WATCH www.oathkeepers.org 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes Duty... Thomas Jefferson

10-11-2009, 05:37 PM	#4
Oldbull Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Denver Colorado area Posts: 43	Re: click bang after you clean the barrel with a clean patch but before you add any powder try firing off a couple of caps to clean the vent hole. Point the firearm at a cluster of grass and then pop the cap. if the grass moves then you have a clear vent.

10-11-2009, 06:47 PM	#5
Artemus V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mass. Posts: 358	Re: click bang I have a CVA that gave me some hangfires with Pyrodex.I went back to black powder and no more problems.

10-18-2009, 04:01 PM	#6
Win73 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 127	Re: click bang I missed a nice buck opening morning of muzzleloader season last year because of a hang fire with my NEF Huntsman .50 caliber. I didn't pop a cap on it before loading it. You can bet that I will this year. __________________ (Luke 11:21 KJV) When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: (Luke 22:36 KJV) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

10-18-2009, 05:13 PM	#7
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,747	Re: click bang ALWAYS pop a cap before loading a ML to clean any oil or dirt from the drum.

10-18-2009, 05:21 PM	#8
Joe M V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nebraska Posts: 52	Re: click bang I would venture to say your hang fires are do to the channel from the drum to the breech getting solvent or oil setting in it after cleaning. A couple things you can do is flush that area with a bit of alcohol after cleaning (make sure it comes out the nipple with a plastic tube over the nipple to direct the alcohol away from the stock, then swab the bore completely dry (the alcohol will evaporate) - then remove the nipple and use a pipe cleaner and work it in towards the breech as best you can,,, lube your bore and store the rifle - muzzle down. The next day run a clean dry patch in and out of the bore. You'd be surprised what collects in the breech of a muzzle loader when they are stored with the muzzle up after a cleaning and lube job. Firing off a few caps before loading is never a bad idea. As a matter of fact it's a good idea! Don't try to remove a CVA Drum as you will never get it back in - and get it aligned properly. Those are chucked in by machine as I understand it and I've heard and seen the horror stories of folks who finally broke the drum free - got it out, but never got it back in. Using real black powder is by far the best powder to use in any muzzle loader as the fake powders create a oily type residue in the bore and this can and will eventually run down into the breech causing a hang fire and/or failure to fire. __________________ Joe