Browning Hi-Power - The Firearms Forum

Gunfyter · 04-15-2003, 01:13 PM

I have a Hi-Power that I want to remove the magazine safety from. Looking at the manual, it appears that all you need to do is take out the trigger assembly and then remove the plunger and spring from the rear of the trigger. Is that it?

04-15-2003, 02:48 PM

Dave, I have a detailed manual for the hi power stored in pdf on my computer. I think I can email it to you. If you want me to try send me a pm with your email address.

Gunfyter · 04-15-2003, 02:55 PM

Check your e-mail and thanks.

04-15-2003, 03:14 PM

It is on the way

My 256K dialup phone line service is slow but steady. It is going out but you should hear the gears grinding in the computer

Gunfyter · 04-16-2003, 09:53 AM

Got the download ok.

Doesn't say a whole lot abot the mag safety other than to its function. I have the Desert Publications manual on the Hi-Power and the while they do not specifically talk about removing the safety, the drawings show all of the pieces and how to take the trigger assembly apart.

I posted the original question to see if one of the faithful had done the job and was willing to share any details.

bompa · 04-16-2003, 08:19 PM

Been there ,done that...
You must remove the trigger and the pin that holds it,trigger pin. It is rather tight..It must be removed from right to left..The best way to remove the pin is with a arbor press,less chance of the punch slipping and buggering the frame..
Go to www.fnhipower.com and you will find detailed directions..
The hard part is the trigger pin..

Gunfyter · 04-17-2003, 06:16 AM

Boy, you got that right about the pin being the hard part. Since I don't own a n arbor press

I guess I'll ride up and see my favorite gunsmith.

CountryGunsmith · 04-17-2003, 06:23 AM

That might be a problem, I'd call first.

We will not do that modification in our shop, for liability reasons. Should you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot because you forgot the chamber was still loaded, we would be stuck WAY out for 'deactivating the factory safety' that would have prevented that discharge.

A very adequate trigger pull can be obtained with the mag safety in place. I removed the mag safety on my personal Hi-Power years ago when I tuned it, but it did not make that big a difference over another with the safety left in.

Gunfyter · 04-17-2003, 06:33 AM

Thanks for the words of caution, I do apprecaite the input. A phone call probably is in order, if for no other reason than to save the ride if he won't do it.

I'm well aware of the safety implication here, but when it's all said and done, I believe that safety resides between the ears of the person holding the gun.

The magazine safety from what I've read is a European answer to the situation of gun safety. Handling my Kimber .45 on a regular basis makes me well aware of the safety issue. Thanks.

CountryGunsmith · 04-17-2003, 06:36 AM

I agree completely with you on the safety issue; however, safety and liability do not necessarily intertwine....

Gunfyter · 04-17-2003, 06:45 AM

Yep, we live in a goofy world.

At least if I shoot myself in the foot I won't sue myself for being stupid.

bompa · 04-17-2003, 08:22 PM

If you have the C&S wide trigger put in there will be no question about the mag safety..There is no provision for the thing..

Marlin · 04-18-2003, 02:42 PM

Until some sanity returns to the World of Gluttons/Idiots, one can't trust anything the legal beagles might do or support.

I abhor many in my former profession for making a mockery of the American Justice system and nearly had a heart attack many a day during my years on the bench witnessing the gross miscarriges of justice in the very place where justice was supposed to be the watchword.

Cow Caregiver · 04-19-2003, 11:39 AM

With the mag safety in place, the average Browning trigger is not a pleasant one to shoot. It has the same squishy feel as a poorly fitted Luger trigger. With the safety removed, the feel is improved considerably. If you have any play in the transfer bar, you may need to make up a larger diameter pin, but you can get a good crisp trigger on the P.35 after considerable tinkering.

denfoote · 05-03-2003, 04:02 AM

I left mine in. It took some doing, but I got used to it being there!!

04-15-2003, 01:13 PM	#1
Gunfyter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,956	Browning Hi-Power I have a Hi-Power that I want to remove the magazine safety from. Looking at the manual, it appears that all you need to do is take out the trigger assembly and then remove the plunger and spring from the rear of the trigger. Is that it? __________________ Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again. If it ain't broke, break it. Someone needs the work -->

04-15-2003, 02:55 PM	#3
Gunfyter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,956	Check your e-mail and thanks. __________________ Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again. If it ain't broke, break it. Someone needs the work

04-16-2003, 09:53 AM	#5
Gunfyter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,956	Got the download ok. Doesn't say a whole lot abot the mag safety other than to its function. I have the Desert Publications manual on the Hi-Power and the while they do not specifically talk about removing the safety, the drawings show all of the pieces and how to take the trigger assembly apart. I posted the original question to see if one of the faithful had done the job and was willing to share any details. __________________ Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again. If it ain't broke, break it. Someone needs the work

04-17-2003, 06:16 AM	#7
Gunfyter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,956	Boy, you got that right about the pin being the hard part. Since I don't own a n arbor press I guess I'll ride up and see my favorite gunsmith. __________________ Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again. If it ain't broke, break it. Someone needs the work

04-17-2003, 06:23 AM	#8
CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	That might be a problem, I'd call first. We will not do that modification in our shop, for liability reasons. Should you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot because you forgot the chamber was still loaded, we would be stuck WAY out for 'deactivating the factory safety' that would have prevented that discharge. A very adequate trigger pull can be obtained with the mag safety in place. I removed the mag safety on my personal Hi-Power years ago when I tuned it, but it did not make that big a difference over another with the safety left in. __________________ The autonomic nervous system provides for involuntary muscle function - the work of breathing, digestion, and so forth. On some folks, that's a pure waste of ingenuity.

04-15-2003, 02:48 PM	#2
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Dave, I have a detailed manual for the hi power stored in pdf on my computer. I think I can email it to you. If you want me to try send me a pm with your email address.

04-15-2003, 03:14 PM	#4
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	It is on the way My 256K dialup phone line service is slow but steady. It is going out but you should hear the gears grinding in the computer

04-16-2003, 08:19 PM	#6
bompa V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 118	Been there ,done that... You must remove the trigger and the pin that holds it,trigger pin. It is rather tight..It must be removed from right to left..The best way to remove the pin is with a arbor press,less chance of the punch slipping and buggering the frame.. Go to www.fnhipower.com and you will find detailed directions.. The hard part is the trigger pin..

04-17-2003, 06:33 AM	#9
Gunfyter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,956	Thanks for the words of caution, I do apprecaite the input. A phone call probably is in order, if for no other reason than to save the ride if he won't do it. I'm well aware of the safety implication here, but when it's all said and done, I believe that safety resides between the ears of the person holding the gun. The magazine safety from what I've read is a European answer to the situation of gun safety. Handling my Kimber .45 on a regular basis makes me well aware of the safety issue. Thanks. __________________ Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again. If it ain't broke, break it. Someone needs the work

04-17-2003, 06:36 AM	#10
CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	I agree completely with you on the safety issue; however, safety and liability do not necessarily intertwine.... __________________ The autonomic nervous system provides for involuntary muscle function - the work of breathing, digestion, and so forth. On some folks, that's a pure waste of ingenuity.

04-17-2003, 06:45 AM	#11
Gunfyter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,956	Yep, we live in a goofy world. At least if I shoot myself in the foot I won't sue myself for being stupid. __________________ Anything worth shooting once, is worth shooting again. If it ain't broke, break it. Someone needs the work

04-17-2003, 08:22 PM	#12
bompa V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 118	If you have the C&S wide trigger put in there will be no question about the mag safety..There is no provision for the thing..

04-18-2003, 02:42 PM	#13
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Until some sanity returns to the World of Gluttons/Idiots, one can't trust anything the legal beagles might do or support. I abhor many in my former profession for making a mockery of the American Justice system and nearly had a heart attack many a day during my years on the bench witnessing the gross miscarriges of justice in the very place where justice was supposed to be the watchword. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

04-19-2003, 11:39 AM	#14
Cow Caregiver V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 136	With the mag safety in place, the average Browning trigger is not a pleasant one to shoot. It has the same squishy feel as a poorly fitted Luger trigger. With the safety removed, the feel is improved considerably. If you have any play in the transfer bar, you may need to make up a larger diameter pin, but you can get a good crisp trigger on the P.35 after considerable tinkering. __________________ Freedom comes dear. Don't let anybody steal yours....

05-03-2003, 04:02 AM	#15
denfoote V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 80	I left mine in. It took some doing, but I got used to it being there!! __________________ John Lennon was right. Happiness IS a warm gun!!! I traded my manners for a handgun.