Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. - The Firearms Forum

DigitalRX · 08-02-2009, 08:08 PM

First, this site will give you an "attack" warning, if you're using Firefox download the NoScript addon if you don't trust my word. 80% of this sites information and posts were scrubbed shortly after the posted article... hm. It's also the website of Orly Taitz, a well known Attorney who has better things to do than hijack your information. Note: This is supposedly a copy of his birth certificate that was requested during the divorce of his parents, where accounts for some "Differences" in the document. Also notice the very blatant Book and Page number in reference to where the certificate would be held. For the first time it may be possible to end this debate with the simple opening of a book... Don't you just love books?

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3583

Here is an alternative link to the same article.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

And another site with a lengthy and informative discussion, growing rapidly.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg1

Make your own decisions, I'm skeptic, but hopeful.

ponycar17 · 08-02-2009, 08:51 PM

One can only hope. The HI doctor who keeps authenticating the HI document still will not offer any proof other than her word. I don't quite buy that...

bcj1755 · 08-02-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ponycar17

One can only hope. The HI doctor who keeps authenticating the HI document still will not offer any proof other than her word. I don't quite buy that...

I think you already know my feelings towards the "birth certificate" the Hawaiian doctor keeps authenticating

Hmmm...this one actually has a raised seal and a signature on it

jim summers · 08-02-2009, 09:00 PM

So what makes anybody think that Obama will have to produce a birth certificate if he has not done so by now he is not going to, don't get me wrong i think he should have to but he has not and no one in Washington seems to care, seems like the Republicans would be all over this like a starving rat.

DigitalRX · 08-02-2009, 09:05 PM

Republican / Democrat, it doesn't really make a difference anymore imo. They're all the same, the government just needs reform and stick true to what our Founding Fathers wanted. One of the big arguments for it, is this attorney is putting her career on the line, as well as reps and senators, all over this piece of paper. She's a very successful lawyer who worked herself to where she is, if she knew it was a fake I doubt she would be so enthusiastic about this. There's a strong possibility it's a fake and she doesn't know.. but to willingly put your career and other peoples on the line seems a little bit extreme if you don't fully believe it.

mrkirker · 08-03-2009, 06:54 AM

Big ugly · 08-03-2009, 07:02 AM

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Suicide*Ride · 08-03-2009, 12:21 PM

Johnny, I LMAO when I saw your horse gif!!

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jim summers said: no one in Washington seems to care, seems like the Republicans would be all over this like a starving rat.

The Republicans have a lot of bigger issues than chasing down the elusive Birth cert. right now. Not that it's not important, just not front burner for them........ that's just MHO.

SR

bcj1755 · 08-03-2009, 12:28 PM

The Republicans act like they're all scared of Obama. After he got in office, a small handful mentioned the birth certificate, then quietly dropped it. Now even some right-wing bloggers are changing their stories from "He was born in Kenyan" to "He was born in Hawaii." And notice people are changing course on this after the "fair and impartial" mainstream media starts painting the non-believers as "birthers" and racist whackamoles? Like they're scared of the media and of Obama. Screw it, let them call me a birther and a right-wing whackjob. I firmly believe the commie scumbag was born in Kenya. His own actions in not releasing a long form birth certificate and having the "free" media discredit the non-believers prove it to me. I still want to know why the so-called conservative Republicans act like they are so damned scared of King-Emperor Barak I His Great Awesomeness and All-Knowing Teleprompter.

mrkirker · 08-03-2009, 12:38 PM

"My Horse! My Horse! My kindom for a horse!"

45nut · 08-03-2009, 12:47 PM

Whatsamatter mrkirker? You don't think this issue is important enough to keep beating until we get to the truth?

Funny .gif. Me like

Problems with tossing out Obozo as I see it.

1) Blacks ri.ot in every metro area burning their neighborhoods and spread to other areas of the cities - Led by ACORN or gangs. Either or both. I hope they make it to the burbs so I can get my licks in.

2) Mar.tial Law declared and Right Wingers will take the brunt of the spear - Pun intended

3) Biden becomes POTUS and Nancy Pelochit becomes VPOTUS

4) Confis.cation of private weapons implemented

5) Co.up d'e.tat. Hopefully someone with the Honor of Maximus will restore the power back to The People, or not. Will we trade one Dictator for another? Who knows, but it will be an interesting ride.

mrkirker · 08-03-2009, 01:17 PM

45, not to offend, but, in a word, "No".

It's an open forum, and I think the subject has been beat to death, to no avail;

and further beating will not help poor 'ole Dobbin!

Continued beating will not advance the issue (if there ever was one) and help the poor old horse arise. However, it IS an open forum, so, here's the stick, (LOL) "Thwak-thwak-thwak!"

ponycar17 · 08-03-2009, 07:57 PM

Actually, I would consider this entirely new information until proven otherwise. Nowhere has this subject been mentioned thus far besides to speculate of such a document. The media and Mr. O himself would prefer that we be quiet on this issue so that it may become a null issue. CNN attempted to quiet the matter when one of the execs said that the original HI certificate was destroyed. A day or so later, HI said that it was not destroyed. Mr. Kirker, I think you're falling into the trap that the media would like for you to fall into. Complacency... No offense, just saying...

ponycar17 · 08-03-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicide*Ride

The Republicans have a lot of bigger issues than chasing down the elusive Birth cert. right now. Not that it's not important, just not front burner for them........ that's just MHO.

SR

I'll point something out regarding this statement. I don't think 'the Republicans' want to touch this with a 10 ft. poll. There's too much to risk by partaking in the witch hunt. This is a private citizen pursuing the issue. While I agree that there are more pressing issues for everyone in charge, I'm interested to see what this attorney is able to unearth.

Teejay9 · 08-03-2009, 08:14 PM

I know it seems fishy, dodgy, obfuscated and troubling, But, I can't help but think, "My they're beating that dead horse." Does anyone suppose that now after almost seven months in office, the Anointed one, Dear Leader, would come up with a BC stating he NOT born in the US? I'm sure he's American as can be, only he hates it. We'd better be prepared to fight a better battle. I, personally would believe he's a Kenyan-Indonenesian, but that's all wasted effort now. Let's choose our battles. Ones that we know we'll win, and not waste our time on this one. The water's far too muudy now to get to the truth. TJ

Bobitis · 08-03-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Teejay9

I know it seems fishy, dodgy, obfuscated and troubling, But, I can't help but think, "My they're beating that dead horse." Does anyone suppose that now after almost seven months in office, the Anointed one, Dear Leader, would come up with a BC stating he NOT born in the US? I'm sure he's American as can be, only he hates it. We'd better be prepared to fight a better battle. I, personally would believe he's a Kenyan-Indonenesian, but that's all wasted effort now. Let's choose our battles. Ones that we know we'll win, and not waste our time on this one. The water's far too muudy now to get to the truth. TJ

Too muddy?
What happened to 'transparancy'?

oops....
I guess it only applies to us regular folks.

You know... The everday people that pay their taxes that won't be subject to taxes in order to support those that don't feel they need to pay taxes to get free benefits.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Tell the people what they want to hear, and shaft 'em after the obfuscation.

Suicide*Ride · 08-04-2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ponycar17

I'll point something out regarding this statement. I don't think 'the Republicans' want to touch this with a 10 ft. poll. There's too much to risk by partaking in the witch hunt. This is a private citizen pursuing the issue. While I agree that there are more pressing issues for everyone in charge, I'm interested to see what this attorney is able to unearth.

I think it will be one of us private citizens who happens upon the elusive BC by accident...... & when it's found all hell will break loose!!!

I'd also like to see what this attorney dredges up! I don't think I'll click on any of the links though. My OS & internet security system are as old as me!

SR

GMFWoodchuck · 08-05-2009, 08:56 AM

We all know he wasn't born here. And even if he was he wasn't legally elected because ACORN bought his votes and invented people that didn't exist so that they could get a power grab by gaining control of the U.S. Census. But none of this matters because they coordinated all of this in a fashion so that even if the annointed leader got kicked out it would still be Biden filling his shoes.

358 winchester · 08-05-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GMFWoodchuck

We all know he wasn't born here. And even if he was he wasn't legally elected because ACORN bought his votes and invented people that didn't exist so that they could get a power grab by gaining control of the U.S. Census. But none of this matters because they coordinated all of this in a fashion so that even if the annointed leader got kicked out it would still be Biden filling his shoes.

Very good comments, MY FEAR is that short of an all out war we the people will never get control of Washington again. We are loosing our rights so fast that by 2010 election we may not have the right to vote, you can bet mine and your votes will not count in 2012.

bcj1755 · 08-05-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

Very good comments, MY FEAR is that short of an all out war we the people will never get control of Washington again. We are loosing our rights so fast that by 2010 election we may not have the right to vote, you can bet mine and your votes will not count in 2012.

If we even have an election in 2012. I'm still waiting for Barry to find a reason to suspend the elections in 12.

armedandsafe · 08-05-2009, 11:43 AM

That document has been exposed as an obvious forgery. Austrailian certificate 'shopped a little bit.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106016

Pops

USMC-03 · 08-05-2009, 11:50 AM

Someday, just for a change of pace, I would like to beat a dead mule...

satellite66 · 08-05-2009, 11:53 AM

I have to keep wondering if the problem is not where he was born but who he was born too? Perhaps the father of record is not on the BC? Maybe the parents were not married at the time?

bcj1755 · 08-05-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by armedandsafe

That document has been exposed as an obvious forgery. Austrailian certificate 'shopped a little bit.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106016

Pops

Acording to that article

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WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

The ones saying it's a photoshopped Australian certificate are the same ones that say "birthers" are racist whackjobs. They have no credibility to me. I'll wait and see if this one can be verified. But at this point I'd have to say that it does look more authentic than the "birth certificate" Obama's people posted.

ponycar17 · 08-05-2009, 12:26 PM

Did anyone else pick up on the fact that Hillary Clinton arrived in Nairobi, Kenya on Monday of this week as part of her 'African Tour'?...

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Clinton tells Kenya to implement delayed reforms
By Sue Pleming
Reuters
Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:02 PM

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Kenya's government on Wednesday it must quickly implement long-delayed reforms and that corruption, impunity and human rights abuses were holding the country back.

Carrying a personal message from U.S. President Barack Obama, whose father was Kenyan, Clinton said she told President Mwai Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga they must work harder to fully implement a power-sharing deal that ended bloodletting after a disputed December 2007 election.

Clinton is in Nairobi for a U.S. trade conference with sub-Saharan African countries, where she warned that investors would shun states on the continent that had weak leaders and economies riddled with corruption and crime.....

Continued at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080502039.html

Come on guys. I'm slow. I figured someone would have beat me to this already.

I heard about it on Monday when the media said that Bill Clinton was in N. Korea, while Hillary was in Kenya. I guess there goes all hope that a birth certificate might be discovered even if real.

08-02-2009, 08:08 PM	#1
DigitalRX Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13	Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. First, this site will give you an "attack" warning, if you're using Firefox download the NoScript addon if you don't trust my word. 80% of this sites information and posts were scrubbed shortly after the posted article... hm. It's also the website of Orly Taitz, a well known Attorney who has better things to do than hijack your information. Note: This is supposedly a copy of his birth certificate that was requested during the divorce of his parents, where accounts for some "Differences" in the document. Also notice the very blatant Book and Page number in reference to where the certificate would be held. For the first time it may be possible to end this debate with the simple opening of a book... Don't you just love books? http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3583 Here is an alternative link to the same article. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764 And another site with a lengthy and informative discussion, growing rapidly. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg1 Make your own decisions, I'm skeptic, but hopeful. -->

08-02-2009, 08:51 PM	#2
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. One can only hope. The HI doctor who keeps authenticating the HI document still will not offer any proof other than her word. I don't quite buy that... __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book

08-02-2009, 09:00 PM	#4
jim summers Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I reside in southern Indiana, you can almost step out of my back door and be setting on Patoka Lake Posts: 1,056	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. So what makes anybody think that Obama will have to produce a birth certificate if he has not done so by now he is not going to, don't get me wrong i think he should have to but he has not and no one in Washington seems to care, seems like the Republicans would be all over this like a starving rat. __________________ To Whom Much Is Given, Much Is Required.

08-02-2009, 09:05 PM	#5
DigitalRX Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. Republican / Democrat, it doesn't really make a difference anymore imo. They're all the same, the government just needs reform and stick true to what our Founding Fathers wanted. One of the big arguments for it, is this attorney is putting her career on the line, as well as reps and senators, all over this piece of paper. She's a very successful lawyer who worked herself to where she is, if she knew it was a fake I doubt she would be so enthusiastic about this. There's a strong possibility it's a fake and she doesn't know.. but to willingly put your career and other peoples on the line seems a little bit extreme if you don't fully believe it.

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bcj1755 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A wretched hive of scum and villiany Posts: 4,357	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. The Republicans act like they're all scared of Obama. After he got in office, a small handful mentioned the birth certificate, then quietly dropped it. Now even some right-wing bloggers are changing their stories from "He was born in Kenyan" to "He was born in Hawaii." And notice people are changing course on this after the "fair and impartial" mainstream media starts painting the non-believers as "birthers" and racist whackamoles? Like they're scared of the media and of Obama. Screw it, let them call me a birther and a right-wing whackjob. I firmly believe the commie scumbag was born in Kenya. His own actions in not releasing a long form birth certificate and having the "free" media discredit the non-believers prove it to me. I still want to know why the so-called conservative Republicans act like they are so damned scared of King-Emperor Barak I His Great Awesomeness and All-Knowing Teleprompter. __________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - Cicero If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams

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45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. Whatsamatter mrkirker? You don't think this issue is important enough to keep beating until we get to the truth? Funny .gif. Me like Problems with tossing out Obozo as I see it. 1) Blacks ri.ot in every metro area burning their neighborhoods and spread to other areas of the cities - Led by ACORN or gangs. Either or both. I hope they make it to the burbs so I can get my licks in. 2) Mar.tial Law declared and Right Wingers will take the brunt of the spear - Pun intended 3) Biden becomes POTUS and Nancy Pelochit becomes VPOTUS 4) Confis.cation of private weapons implemented 5) Co.up d'e.tat. Hopefully someone with the Honor of Maximus will restore the power back to *The People, or not. Will we trade one Dictator for another? Who knows, but it will be an interesting ride. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane* Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

08-03-2009, 01:17 PM	#12
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. 45, not to offend, but, in a word, "No". It's an open forum, and I think the subject has been beat to death, to no avail; and further beating will not help poor 'ole Dobbin! Continued beating will not advance the issue (if there ever was one) and help the poor old horse arise. However, it IS an open forum, so, here's the stick, (LOL) "Thwak-thwak-thwak!" __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.* Last edited by mrkirker; 08-03-2009 at 01:24 PM..

08-03-2009, 07:57 PM	#13
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. Actually, I would consider this entirely new information until proven otherwise. Nowhere has this subject been mentioned thus far besides to speculate of such a document. The media and Mr. O himself would prefer that we be quiet on this issue so that it may become a null issue. CNN attempted to quiet the matter when one of the execs said that the original HI certificate was destroyed. A day or so later, HI said that it was not destroyed. Mr. Kirker, I think you're falling into the trap that the media would like for you to fall into. Complacency... No offense, just saying... __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book Last edited by ponycar17; 08-03-2009 at 07:58 PM..

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Teejay9 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Southwest Corner of the US, "Where no stinking fence will stop us!!" Posts: 1,257	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. I know it seems fishy, dodgy, obfuscated and troubling, But, I can't help but think, "My they're beating that dead horse." Does anyone suppose that now after almost seven months in office, the Anointed one, Dear Leader, would come up with a BC stating he NOT born in the US? I'm sure he's American as can be, only he hates it. We'd better be prepared to fight a better battle. I, personally would believe he's a Kenyan-Indonenesian, but that's all wasted effort now. Let's choose our battles. Ones that we know we'll win, and not waste our time on this one. The water's far too muudy now to get to the truth. TJ __________________ A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have". Thomas Jefferson

08-05-2009, 08:56 AM	#18
GMFWoodchuck Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,369	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. We all know he wasn't born here. And even if he was he wasn't legally elected because ACORN bought his votes and invented people that didn't exist so that they could get a power grab by gaining control of the U.S. Census. But none of this matters because they coordinated all of this in a fashion so that even if the annointed leader got kicked out it would still be Biden filling his shoes.

08-05-2009, 11:43 AM	#21
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. That document has been exposed as an obvious forgery. Austrailian certificate 'shopped a little bit. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106016 Pops

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satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: Obamas real birth certificate? Possibly found. I have to keep wondering if the problem is not where he was born but who he was born too? Perhaps the father of record is not on the BC? Maybe the parents were not married at the time? __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948