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Old 08-08-2009, 12:09 AM   #26
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Also there is no i repeat no politics in the quran ive read it many times and i can tell you that even the prophet Mohammad made this clear When the Prophet established and ran the Medinan state he consulted his followers. Prophets do not consult their followers on matters of religion. The Prophet clearly saw Islam and the state as separate. It is extremely important, especially for us in the turbulent world today, to separate the divine message from the earthly actions of the Prophet. Otherwise we will be stuck forever with killing nonbelievers, slavery, concubinage etc. so Sharia law is not part of the faith it is just a way for those idiots to make a state and still call is islamic there is in no way a political islam its just something they created to control the muslim world it is oppression and it makes me sick
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:16 AM   #27
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hmm well guys actually Sharia law isnt part of the 5 pillars of faith that is political islam which is in no way expressed in the koran and there is no such exsistence of any islamic state or any national islamic country because An Islamic ‘state’ is not part of the faith. What is required by faith is working towards justice and equity in public space. There is no concept of ‘nation state’ in the classical formulation of political theory
There have been many public statements by Is.lamic leaders over the years making their intentions more than clear. Whether or not they are leaders of a state, country, province, or anything else with borders, is secondary and irrelevant. The message is clear--death to in.fidels.

I am only just beginning to learn and understand...but the "fruit" of the extremist teachings is being seen everywhere in the world. Call it political, religious or whatever...the results are what concern me greatly.
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:26 AM   #28
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yes those are extremists they follow there own thing and there own agenda and use the muslim religion as a shield they can hide behind i just wish those muslims that claim to be real muslims stand up to those evil men and take back there religion
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:28 AM   #29
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yes those are extremists they follow there own thing and there own agenda and use the muslim religion as a shield they can hide behind i just wish those muslims that claim to be real muslims stand up to those evil men and take back there religion
If they don't, I can see only one way this thing is going to go and it ain't pretty.
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:49 AM   #30
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yes hardballer it can only go one way and im pretty sure nothing will change cause i sure haven't seen it yet there leaders are just as worse as those extremists
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