Originally Posted by Shooter45
I'll agree with that. The .40 S&W round didn't seem to help either. Maybe they need more range time and a LOT of instruction.
I'm not going to try and figure out what they need...I'd probably bite my foot.
I have had productive shared training with some of them. If we hustle facilities, they are happy to give us instruction on evidence exploitation, proper evidence handling (a terrorist is a walking crime scene) and share their resources concerning almost anything. We share too; anything from short-long range marksmanship, breaching structures, convoy protection, room clearing etc. They are one of several agencies that benefits mutually with occasional shared training cooperation, in my humble opinion.
Being fair about it, their close quarters marksmanship techniques and training methods are nothing to snicker at. I know some guys that warmed up to it pretty quick. I know I took some some ideas away from their method. Also, they can't be faulted for the amount of and quality of the training they provide their people, keeping in mind their primary purpose....once again, it's nothing to snicker about either.
From the outside looking in, I'd say they're a victim of the same problems all law enforcement agencies are: they're not a dedicated fighting force, but they have their share of fights. Sometimes they are going to get gotten. The usual answer is to apply a technological solution (bigger bullets in their case) instead of asking tactical questions.
You said it though. More range time and proper instruction.