Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy - The Firearms Forum

22WRF · 08-26-2009, 04:10 PM

NOT Mine

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/....html?wprss=44

Jay · 08-26-2009, 04:14 PM

Mine isn't moving either.

Bobitis · 08-26-2009, 04:32 PM

Obomba ORDERS?

Squeeze ME?

I'll fly mine as I see it appropriate.
My famliy has served this country. My family has recovered POW's.

This POS has done nothing to defend my country, and has laid to rest an innocent child with no recourse.

I see nothing that calls for ANY respect for this perversion of society/politics.

Yet another spewing of the commander in chief in indifferance of the people he's supposed to serve.

Scuse me while I go puke. AGAIN!

kingchip · 08-26-2009, 05:01 PM

NOPE !!!! Mine ain't budging.

Tom Militano · 08-26-2009, 05:05 PM

Mine either.

358 winchester · 08-26-2009, 05:08 PM

NOT MINE EITHER I don't accept the

as my president ( you can tell he is lying his lips are moving)

Claude Clay · 08-26-2009, 05:11 PM

40 years, one month and 7 days to late

Mary Jo Kopechne would have been 68 years old now and the drunk whould be a perpetual 35.

ilovenxstage · 08-26-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Obomba ORDERS?

Squeeze ME?

I'll fly mine as I see it appropriate.
My famliy has served this country. My family has recovered POW's.

This POS has done nothing to defend my country, and has laid to rest an innocent child with no recourse.

I see nothing that calls for ANY respect for this perversion of society/politics.

Yet another spewing of the commander in chief in indifferance of the people he's supposed to serve.

Scuse me while I go puke. AGAIN!

+1 Flying the flag at half staff is intended to HONOUR somebody. I feel for his family, but that self righteous piece of liberal dog crap doesn't deserve one little bit of honour from me!

Suwannee Tim · 08-26-2009, 05:19 PM

C'mon guys, don't hold back. Tell us what you REALLY think.

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 08-26-2009, 06:29 PM

"Another one bites the dust."

While I honor the Kennedy family, I'm sorry but no. Besides, I don't have a flag pole.

ponycar17 · 08-26-2009, 07:34 PM

I don't fly a flag, primarily because no one could see one from our yard... However, I did think about raising a glass of Jameson Irish Whiskey in remembrance/riddance of the evil codger in the near future.

GunHugger · 08-26-2009, 09:17 PM

I added a section to my flagpole today.

Insulation Tim · 08-26-2009, 09:30 PM

Mine's flying as high as ever. I also heard the Obamashit said that Ted was the GREATEST Senator ever.

SARG · 08-26-2009, 09:33 PM

Amen.
I'm flying it high all week just to make the statement.

obxned · 08-26-2009, 10:39 PM

358 Winchester's tribute is just right!

pinecone70 · 08-27-2009, 08:27 AM

My understanding is that flags on private property don't even fall under the half-staff orders. Can anyone confirm??

Suwannee Tim · 08-27-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insulation Tim

Mine's flying as high as ever. I also heard the Obamashit said that Ted was the GREATEST Senator ever.

You seem skeptical Tim. I think it only fair that we consider the criteria by which Senators should be judged. I think if you consider that the late Senator was probably one of the hardest drinking, hardest partying, waitress sandwich making, he** raising Irishmen ever to hold high office, then, yes he may have been the greatest Senator ever.

22WRF · 08-27-2009, 08:55 AM

Only the President and state Governors can decide when and how long the flag should be flown at half-staff.
Thirty days after the death of a president or former president
Ten days after the death of a vice president, the chief of justice or a retired chief of justice or the speaker of the house of representatives.
Until the burial of an associate justice of the Supreme Court, secretary of a military department, a former vice president, or the governor of a state, territory, or possession.
On the day of and the day after the death of a member of Congress.
On Memorial Day, the day set aside to honor all the people who have died while serving the United States & originally called Decoration Day, the flag is flown at half-Staff until noon, then raised to full staff until sundown

When is it permitted to half-staff the U.S. flag?

Only the president of the United States or the governor of the state may order the flag to be at half-staff to honor the death of a national or state figure. Unfortunately, many city, business and organization leaders are half-staffing the flag upon the death of an employee or member. Instead, it is suggested to half-staff (if on a separate pole) the city, business or organizational flag. The federal flag code does not prohibit this type of half-staffing.

Honoring Deceased Citizens with the Flag

In additional to the traditional half-staff salutes when proclaimed by the President, the Flag Code mentions the use of our Flag for honoring citizens who have died, especially government officials and prominent citizens. However, the Flag Code does not exclude any citizen, whether they belong to an organization or not, whether they are recognized very locally or regionally. Examples of deceased citizens that might be honored with by lowering the Flag to half-staff include local religious leaders, youth leaders, honored teachers or sports coaches, local politicians, or a local hero. There need be no authorization from the government for the private sector (non-government) to use the Flag to honor any citizen. It is important to note that the Flag Code is a code, not a Law, it is intended to provide guidance and is not obligatory. It carries no civil or criminal penalties for “misuse” of the Flag. Individual are not acting illegally when using the Flag according to their own usage. Only on government / public building is the flag code required to be followed.

http://www.gettysburgflag.com/FlyFlagHalfMast.php

Marlin · 08-27-2009, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinecone70

My understanding is that flags on private property don't even fall under the half-staff orders. Can anyone confirm??

That is very true, pc.

If there is any one person, including Obama, that has done more to undermine this great Republic than Teddy Kennedy, I'd like to know who that might be.

While I sympathize with his family, WRT to the US of A, it is no great loss.....

FOOTNOTE: Go here to learn of his REAL accomplishments:

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=66108

chucksolo69 · 08-27-2009, 10:47 AM

I think most of you might be missing the point. I am a tried and true Republican and was against everything Ted Kennedy stood for, and yes Mary Jo sould never be forgotten. But......the point is, the man devoted his life to the service of his country and right or wrong, you have to respect his patriotism. My condolences to the extended Kennedy family.

bcj1755 · 08-27-2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucksolo69

I think most of you might be missing the point. I am a tried and true Republican and was against everything Ted Kennedy stood for, and yes Mary Jo sould never be forgotten. But......the point is, the man devoted his life to the service of his country and right or wrong, you have to respect his patriotism. My condolences to the extended Kennedy family.

I guess we have different definitions of "patriotism." I don't see trying to undermine the Constitution of the US, trying to convert this country into a socialist workers' paradise, and trying to ram more unneeded, unwanted, and illegal gov't control down the throats of law abiding citizens as being "patriotic." I too feel soory for his family, because no matter how much of a socialist liberal douchebag he was, there were still people that loved him. I am, however, releived that he is now no longer able to use his Senate seat to help push along the currently ongoing destruction of this country.

chucksolo69 · 08-27-2009, 11:16 AM

In that context I would agree. I am just citing the service he gave to the country. Think about it though. For everyone of us that thinks that "liberalism" is the downfall of this country (I do), there are scores that support it. Yes, it is good that he can no longer influence policy in the Senate. But, there are Democratic Senators that support the second amendment completely as written, but also support the "liberal" agenda propogated by the socialist Dems. Are they to be less vilified than those that don't support gun ownership? They are still socialist, liberal douchbags who happen to like guns.

Tom Militano · 08-27-2009, 02:39 PM

Mine can't be seen by anyone except me and my wife ponycar17, but I fly the American Flag and the POW/MIA Flag 24 hours a day and both are lighted at night. I just like being able to look at the window and seeing them. My flag won't be at half mast for kennedy.

08-26-2009, 04:10 PM	#1
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,251	Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy NOT Mine http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/....html?wprss=44 __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel -->

08-26-2009, 04:14 PM	#2
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Mine isn't moving either. __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

08-26-2009, 04:32 PM	#3
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Obomba ORDERS? Squeeze ME? I'll fly mine as I see it appropriate. My famliy has served this country. My family has recovered POW's. This POS has done nothing to defend my country, and has laid to rest an innocent child with no recourse. I see nothing that calls for ANY respect for this perversion of society/politics. Yet another spewing of the commander in chief in indifferance of the people he's supposed to serve. Scuse me while I go puke. AGAIN! __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

08-26-2009, 05:01 PM	#4
kingchip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Marble Falls, Texas Posts: 541	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy NOPE !!!! Mine ain't budging.

08-26-2009, 05:05 PM	#5
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Mine either.

08-26-2009, 05:08 PM	#6
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy NOT MINE EITHER I don't accept the as my president ( you can tell he is lying his lips are moving) __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

08-26-2009, 05:11 PM	#7
Claude Clay V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central CT Posts: 451	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy 40 years, one month and 7 days to late Mary Jo Kopechne would have been 68 years old now and the drunk whould be a perpetual 35. Last edited by Claude Clay; 08-26-2009 at 05:16 PM..

08-26-2009, 05:19 PM	#9
Suwannee Tim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,227	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy C'mon guys, don't hold back. Tell us what you REALLY think.

08-26-2009, 06:29 PM	#10
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy "Another one bites the dust." While I honor the Kennedy family, I'm sorry but no. Besides, I don't have a flag pole.

08-26-2009, 07:34 PM	#11
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy I don't fly a flag, primarily because no one could see one from our yard... However, I did think about raising a glass of Jameson Irish Whiskey in remembrance/riddance of the evil codger in the near future. __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book

08-26-2009, 09:17 PM	#12
GunHugger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SW PA Posts: 1,161	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy I added a section to my flagpole today. __________________ . “There will be a revolution in this country!” “I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.” ~Barack Obama "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here." ~Captain John Parker, to his Minute Men on Lexington Green, April 19, 1775.

08-26-2009, 09:30 PM	#13
Insulation Tim Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,298	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Mine's flying as high as ever. I also heard the Obamashit said that Ted was the GREATEST Senator ever. __________________ Tim *"Remember the Ark was built by amateurs....Professionals built the Titanic"*

08-26-2009, 09:33 PM	#14
SARG V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northeast Posts: 306	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Amen. I'm flying it high all week just to make the statement. Attached Images

08-26-2009, 10:39 PM	#15
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy 358 Winchester's tribute is just right! __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

08-27-2009, 08:27 AM	#16
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy My understanding is that flags on private property don't even fall under the half-staff orders. Can anyone confirm?? __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

08-27-2009, 08:55 AM	#18
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,251	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Only the President and state Governors can decide when and how long the flag should be flown at half-staff. Thirty days after the death of a president or former president Ten days after the death of a vice president, the chief of justice or a retired chief of justice or the speaker of the house of representatives. Until the burial of an associate justice of the Supreme Court, secretary of a military department, a former vice president, or the governor of a state, territory, or possession. On the day of and the day after the death of a member of Congress. On Memorial Day, the day set aside to honor all the people who have died while serving the United States & originally called Decoration Day, the flag is flown at half-Staff until noon, then raised to full staff until sundown When is it permitted to half-staff the U.S. flag? Only the president of the United States or the governor of the state may order the flag to be at half-staff to honor the death of a national or state figure. Unfortunately, many city, business and organization leaders are half-staffing the flag upon the death of an employee or member. Instead, it is suggested to half-staff (if on a separate pole) the city, business or organizational flag. The federal flag code does not prohibit this type of half-staffing. Honoring Deceased Citizens with the Flag In additional to the traditional half-staff salutes when proclaimed by the President, the Flag Code mentions the use of our Flag for honoring citizens who have died, especially government officials and prominent citizens. However, the Flag Code does not exclude any citizen, whether they belong to an organization or not, whether they are recognized very locally or regionally. Examples of deceased citizens that might be honored with by lowering the Flag to half-staff include local religious leaders, youth leaders, honored teachers or sports coaches, local politicians, or a local hero. There need be no authorization from the government for the private sector (non-government) to use the Flag to honor any citizen. It is important to note that the Flag Code is a code, not a Law, it is intended to provide guidance and is not obligatory. It carries no civil or criminal penalties for “misuse” of the Flag. Individual are not acting illegally when using the Flag according to their own usage. Only on government / public building is the flag code required to be followed. http://www.gettysburgflag.com/FlyFlagHalfMast.php __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel

08-27-2009, 10:47 AM	#20
chucksolo69 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 43	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy I think most of you might be missing the point. I am a tried and true Republican and was against everything Ted Kennedy stood for, and yes Mary Jo sould never be forgotten. But......the point is, the man devoted his life to the service of his country and right or wrong, you have to respect his patriotism. My condolences to the extended Kennedy family.

08-27-2009, 11:16 AM	#22
chucksolo69 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 43	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy In that context I would agree. I am just citing the service he gave to the country. Think about it though. For everyone of us that thinks that "liberalism" is the downfall of this country (I do), there are scores that support it. Yes, it is good that he can no longer influence policy in the Senate. But, there are Democratic Senators that support the second amendment completely as written, but also support the "liberal" agenda propogated by the socialist Dems. Are they to be less vilified than those that don't support gun ownership? They are still socialist, liberal douchbags who happen to like guns.

08-27-2009, 02:39 PM	#23
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: Obama Orders Flags Flown at Half-Staff in Honor of Kennedy Mine can't be seen by anyone except me and my wife ponycar17, but I fly the American Flag and the POW/MIA Flag 24 hours a day and both are lighted at night. I just like being able to look at the window and seeing them. My flag won't be at half mast for kennedy.