They are watching facebook, twitter, youtube...

[Marlin T]

EXCLUSIVE: W.H. collects Web users' data without notice
Social-media messages go into archives

By Audrey Hudson (Contact)

EXCLUSIVE:
The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users, a failure that appears to run counter to President Obama's promise of a transparent government and his pledge to protect privacy on the Internet.

Marc Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said the White House signaled that it would insist on open dealings with Internet users and, in fact, should feel obliged to disclose that it is collecting such information.

"The White House has not been adequately transparent, particularly on how it makes use of new social media techniques, such as this example," he said.

Defenders of the White House actions said the Presidential Records Act requires that the administration gather the information and that it was justified in taking the additional step of asking a private contractor to "crawl and archive" all such material. Nicholas Shapiro, a White House spokesman, declined to say when the practice began or how much the new contract would cost.

Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for National Archives and Records Administration, said the presidential records law applies to "social media" and to public comments "received by the president or immediate staff."

Mr. Obama signed a memo in January stating that his efforts to maintain an open government would be "unprecedented" and "ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation and collaboration."

An Obama campaign document on technology pledged that, as president, Mr. Obama "will strengthen privacy protections for the digital age and will harness the power of technology to hold government and business accountable for violations of personal privacy."

In a June 5, 2008, article in PC Magazine, Mr. Obama said, "The open information platforms of the 21st century can also tempt institutions to violate the privacy of citizens. We need sensible safeguards that protect privacy in this dynamic new world."
The National Legal and Policy Center, a government ethics watchdog, said archiving the sites would have a "chilling effect" on Web site users who might wish to leave comments critical of the administration.

Ken Boehm, a lawyer and chairman of the center, also disputed that the presidential records law applies, because the comments are pasted onto a third-party Web page and not official correspondence with the president.

"If the White House has nothing to hide, why is this cloaked in secrecy? Why won't they make the dollar amount this is going to cost public?" Mr. Boehm asked. "I don't think there is an expectation that this is being captured by the government and saved."

But Patrice McDermott, director of OpenTheGovernment.org, called the proposal "a positive development because it demonstrates a commitment from the Obama administration to meet its obligations under the Presidential Records Act."

"Additionally, I am encouraged to see the administration recognizing that it must find a way to handle the ever-expanding amount of data generated electronically. I hope the rest of the executive branch will learn from the president's leadership on this issue," Ms. McDermott said.

Shahid Buttar, executive director of the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, called for congressional oversight of the practice of collecting data.

"Given the administration's disappointing secrecy in other contexts, the Bill of Rights Defense Committee encourages Congress to conduct oversight to ensure compliance with the law, maximize transparency and protect individual privacy," Mr. Buttar said.

According to the law, the term "presidential records" means documentary materials "created or received by the president, his immediate staff or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the president, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President."

"It includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the president or members of his staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President," the law says.

David Almacy, who served as President George W. Bush's Internet director, said the Bush administration did not use the then-fledgling social-networking sites in the same manner as the Obama White House, except to upload presidential speeches onto iTunes. The White House, however, did archive comments posted to its official Web site.

The proposal issued Aug. 21 calls for a contractor to "crawl and archive" social-networking Web sites where the White House maintains an official presence on seven networks: Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Flickr, YouTube, Vimeo and Slideshare.

The collection will include the comments, tags, graphics, audio and video posted by users who don't work for the White House.

The White House has more than 333,000 fans on Facebook, and posts updates several times a day that draw hundreds of thousands of comments, both positive and negative. The White House has more than 1 million followers on Twitter and more than 87,000 subscribers on YouTube, where more than 400 videos of the president and White House briefings are posted.

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[red14]

And you are surprised? Did you read 1984? What do you think Big Brother is? Government.

[GunHugger]

Didn't you read the posters?

[Lotsdragon]

Yeah and you think they dont have a file already on each of us?

[Vladimir]

To be fair the first paragraph says on "THEIR" sites. Frankly anything anyone posts on my site is saved too- because I don't delete it!

[Doc1911]

Every gun forum will be (or is) on their list. This sure feels like an invasion of my privacy. Though gun forums are forums that may be viewed by the GP, my posts are meant only for the members of that specific forum. BB has no right to read them any more than they have the right to read a letter I have written to my mother - this is my personal opinion, not necessarily the law.

We ought to contact ACLU - and use them one time for our benefit. "The right to be let alone" (Brandeis and Warren, 1890).

[GunHugger]

"OBAMA NATION WATCH ~ Keeping an eye on our enemies Use this forum to report traitors, dissenter's and others who are a danger to the Obama Nation."

CLICK this link to read the thread...interesting reading;
http://www.theobamaforum.com/showthr...?t=1808&page=3

Is that website for real? Wow...if it is.

NOTE: The thread linked to above has 107 pages and has just about every gun related discussion forum and website listed there. The list below was just the start of their "list". And you wonder where the trolls come from???

List of website they think should be banned!

Enemy list of rightwing gun boards:

http://forums.gunboards.com/

http://www.gunboards.com/

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/index.php

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...s.php?ubb=cfrm

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve

http://www.armamentsales.com/exoticw...orum/index.php

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/archive/index.php/

http://pub113.ezboard.com/bparallaxs...firearmsforums

http://www.beltgun.com/

http://www.jouster.com/

http://www.mosin-nagant.net/

http://www.elitedealseeker.com/index...egory=gunstuff

http://perfectunion.com/forums/

http://www.thehighroad.org/

http://www.battlerifles.com/

http://www.surplusrifle.com/index.asp

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/

http://www.warrifles.com/forums/index.php

http://www.mosin-nagant.net/tucos-links.html

http://www.uzi-world.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/index.php

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve

http://www.GunandGame.com/

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/military-firearms/

http://www.armsnet.com/

http://gun-deals.com/ammo

http://subguns.com/boards/

Fal Board at...... http://www.falfiles.com/forums/index.php

HK Board at....... http://www.hkpro.com/

Another HK Board.. http://www.hk91.com/

CETME Board.... http://www.cetmerifles.com/

AK Board at ... http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB2/

AK Board at ..... http://www.AK-47.net/

AK Board at .... http://www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=4

AK Board at.... http://www.akfiles.com/forums/

AK board at....... http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/

in Russian at..... http://club.guns.ru/wwwboard/

Valmet / Galil Board at ..... http://www.Valmet.org/

Valmet Weapons ..... http://www.ValmetWeapons.com

Galil Info Website ... http://www.galilrifle.info/

Saiga Board ...... http://forum.saiga-12.com/

AUG Board at......... http://STEYR-AUG.COM/

Another AUG Board... http://www.SteyrAUG.net/

Another AUG Board.... http://www.stg77.com/

FN Weapons Board .... http://fivesevenforum.net/forum_index.php

SIG AMT board..... http://www.biggerhammer.net/sigamt/wwwboard/

SIG 550 Board .... http://www.sig-550.com/

More Sig ..... http://www.sigforum.com/

AR15.com at....... http://www.ar15.com/

M4 Carbine ...... http://www.m4carbine.net/forum.php

Armalite site..... http://www.armalite.com/

AR-180 Rifles .... http://www.ar-180.com/

XD Talk ..... http://www.xdtalk.com/

Ruger .... http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/

MAC Board at......... http://pub26.ezboard.com/bmacdiscussionboard

Robinson M96 Board..... http://www.biggerhammer.net/m96/wwwboard/

Barrett 50 Cal Board.... http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/wwwboard/

Stoner 25 Board.... http://www.biggerhammer.net/stoner/wwwboard/

HAC 7 Holloway Arms Board..... http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/wwwboard/

Beltfed Board...... http://www.biggerhammer.net/anm2/wwwboard/

1919a4........... http://www.1919a4.com

M1 Garand Board.... http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/garand/garand.pl

M14/M1 Garand/M1 Carbine Board ... http://www.battlerifles.com/

M14/M1A ..... http://www.m14firinglineforum.com/upload/

1941 Johnson Board ..... http://www.johnsonautomatics.com/

1911 Forum ....... http://www.big-boards.com/highlight/632/

Beretta Forum ...... http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/index.php?

Rimfire Board..... http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php?

Uzi Board............. http://www.uzitalk.com

Another Uzi Board ..... http://www.uzi-world.net/forums/index.php?

G43 Board .... http://gk43forum.com/forum/index.php?

Glock Board at....... http://glocktalk.com/

Makarov Board at..... http://makarov.com/wwwboard/

Swedish Weapons Website .... http://gotavapen.se/index_english.htm

French Weapons..... http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11

French Weapons..... http://pub42.ezboard.com/fparallaxsc...rmsforumsfrm32

C & R Board .... http://pub176.ezboard.com/bcurioandrelicfirearmsforum

C & R Board.... http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcollectorguns35625

9mm Largo Board .... http://www.9mmlargo.com/cgi-bin/disc....cgi?pg=topics

Silencer Board ..... http://www.modernrifle.com/forum/index.php

Hundreds of links at....

http://www2.itexas.net/dwharris/a.htm

http://www.reloadammo.com/rel-link.htm >> http://www.stevespages.com/page7b.htm

More manuals >>> http://gunmanuals.net/

and...... http://www.gunmanuals.ch/

[JetGirl]

Wow...that reads like my daily browse...

[lockednloaded45]

if its all true, which it probably is, its just one more nail in the coffin of freedom (

[45nut]

All I can say is:

[Doc1911]

This is all VERY TROUBLING and unsettling. That Pro Obama site is a disgrace to America.

Does anyone have an alternate communication system set up in the event that such a 1st A. ban one day really takes place. How do we protect all our rights w/o communication? To be effective communication must be fast - i.e. the Internet in today's world.

[22WRF]

This is an example of the pond scum posting on the Obomanation forum



A posting sample "Soon enough bro, we gonna cut the bacon off the back of these fat ass whiteys"


Lock and Load

[Terry_P]

There too many little people of limited social skills, limited practical intelligence and limited conscience who not only fail to think before they act but refuse to take responsibility for their actions.
Our Constitution does not give us rights without responsibility, so where is the personal responsibility ?

We have the racist NRA to thank not only for the deletion of personal responsibility from the equation, but for all the people who will die as the result. Guns should be banned for the sake of the children and public good.

This is another quote from they same numb n**s.

You can tell he really walks the walk, I wonder how much Obama money we the government give him each week?

[carver]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

To be fair the first paragraph says on "THEIR" sites. Frankly anything anyone posts on my site is saved too- because I don't delete it!

Didn't Al Gore invent the internet? That would make the whole thing "theirs".

[PPK 32]

Anything thats sent via the "air" waves is public, think of your cell, email, internet as public domain. This is not news to me. But if some dumb @s- wants to monitor my boring life--go for it. If they want my hardware, thats gonna be a problem.

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by PPK 32

Anything thats sent via the "air" waves is public, think of your cell, email, internet as public domain. This is not news to me. But if some dumb @s- wants to monitor my boring life--go for it. If they want my hardware, thats gonna be a problem.

You don't know the half of it. Here's a nice tidbit from our new Regulatory Czar, Sunstein Boy, it sure didn't take him long to start his whackadoo crap, did it?

WND Exclusive CZAR WARS
Cass Sunstein drafted 'New Deal Fairness Doctrine'
Asserts government should regulate broadcasting as it imposed end to segregation
Posted: September 15, 2009
9:30 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Cass Sunstein
JERUSALEM – President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein, drew up a "First Amendment New Deal," a new "Fairness Doctrine" that would include the establishment of a panel of "nonpartisan experts" to ensure "diversity of view" on the airwaves, WND has learned.

Sunstein compared the need for the government to regulate broadcasting to the moral obligation of the U.S. to impose new rules that outlawed segregation.

Until now, Sunstein's radical proposal, set forth in his 1993 book "The Partial Constitution," received no news media attention and scant scrutiny.

In the book – obtained and reviewed by WND – Sunstein outwardly favors and promotes the "fairness doctrine," the abolished FCC policy that required holders of broadcast licenses to present controversial issues of public importance in a manner the government deemed was "equitable and balanced."

Sunstein introduces what he terms his "First Amendment New Deal" to regulate broadcasting in the U.S.

(Story continues below)




His proposal, which focuses largely on television, includes a government requirement that "purely commercial stations provide financial subsidies to public television or to commercial stations that agree to provide less profitable but high-quality programming."

Sunstein wrote it is "worthwhile to consider more dramatic approaches as well."

He proposes "compulsory public-affairs programming, right of reply, content review by nonpartisan experts or guidelines to encourage attention to public issues and diversity of view."

The Obama czar argues his regulation proposals for broadcasting are actually presented within the spirit of the Constitution.

"It seems quite possible that a law that contained regulatory remedies would promote rather than undermine the 'freedom of speech,'" he writes.

Sunstein compares the need for the government to regulate broadcasting to the moral obligation of the government stepping in to end segregation.

Writes Sunstein: "The idea that government should be neutral among all forms of speech seems right in the abstract, but as frequently applied it is no more plausible than the idea that it should be neutral between the associational interests of blacks and those of whites under conditions of segregation."

Sunstein contends the landmark case that brought about the fairness doctrine, Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. Federal Communications Commission, "stresses not the autonomy of broadcasters (made possible only by current ownership rights), but instead the need to promote democratic self-government by ensuring that people are presented with a broad range of views about public issues."

He continues: "In a market system, this goal may be compromised. It is hardly clear that 'the freedom of speech' is promoted by a regime in which people are permitted to speak only if other people are willing to pay enough to allow them to be heard."

In his book, Sunstein slams the U.S. courts' unwillingness to "require something like a Fairness Doctrine" to be a result of "the judiciary's lack of democratic pedigree, lack of fact-finding powers and limited remedial authority."

He clarifies he is not arguing the government should be free to regulate broadcasting however it chooses.

"Regulation designed to eliminate a particular viewpoint would of course be out of bounds. All viewpoint discrimination would be banned," Sunstein writes.

But, he says, "at the very least, regulative 'fairness doctrines' would raise no real doubts" constitutionally.

Note: Media wishing to interview Aaron Klein, please e-mail WND

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109969

All this anger is exactly what The Hussein wants. He WANTS us to get pissed. He WANTS us so angry we can't see straight or think. He WANTS someone to get get so pissed off that they start a "problem." That way, he has an excuse to declare martial law, invoke the Patriot Act, rule by decree without the consent of Congress, and let his Czars take over for Congress. I bet the vast majority of those a**clowns on those Obama boards are actually on Uncle Sugar's payroll, TRYING to stir crap up. A few years ago, the FBI was actually PAYING a guy to operate a "right-wing extremist" blog calling for the murder of members of Congress and for an armed insurrection, all so Freddie the Fed could make a few arrests to grab headlines and justify more funding (kind of like what BATFE does when they pick someone to make an example of)

If Freddie the Fed or King-Emperor Barack I His Great Awesomeness and All-Knowing Teleprompter don't like what I say, oh well, that's there problem. I don't say anything on here that I won't say in person. So does that mean I'm on a watchlist, probably. All because I won't partake of the tasty Barry-flavored Kenyan Kool-aid. You know, the same Jim Jones Kool-aid that many people seem to be barfing back up.

[LurpyGeek]

Originally Posted by GunHugger

Enemy list of rightwing gun boards:

That actually made me laugh. While I have visited many of these sites from time to time while looking for information. Of the handful of forums that I frequent or have an account on... none are on the list. I guess my interests aren't "mainstream" when it comes to firearms. Maybe I'm not "right wing" enough.

[Doc1911]

My attorney laughed and said just attach this to all our copyrighted work of posting. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/atta...9&d=1253266776You are free to use it if you wish. Attach it to your signature line - see mine below.

[bcj1755]

you know, I was looking over that list again and I realized something. That's a list of many more gun forums that I never knew existed Now I have MORE gun websites to check out Thanks guys

[JohnBrainard]

Reading through their posts for a few minutes, it seems like it's all a bunch of sarcasm or parody. Surely they couldn't possibly believe the things they are saying, can they? Do they actually refer to him as the messiah?

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by bcj1755

you know, I was looking over that list again and I realized something. That's a list of many more gun forums that I never knew existed Now I have MORE gun websites to check out Thanks guys

Ditto

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by JohnBrainard

Reading through their posts for a few minutes, it seems like it's all a bunch of sarcasm or parody. Surely they couldn't possibly believe the things they are saying, can they? Do they actually refer to him as the messiah?

Yeah, that site has to be fake. At least, it was probably started as a parody or satire, but then the real whackadoo Kool-aid drinkers migrated there. The problem is that the more gullible of the Obamites might actually believe some of that crap.

[woolleyworm]

holy $#!^ that is one scary site !!

[358 winchester]

Originally Posted by bcj1755

Yeah, that site has to be fake. At least, it was probably started as a parody or satire, but then the real whackadoo Kool-aid drinkers migrated there. The problem is that the more gullible of the Obamites might actually believe some of that crap.

I could be very wrong but I am not taking any chances.
The longer that they can keep "We the People" believing that stuff like this is fake or just not happening then stronger they become and the bigger their Army will become. Then when the poopoo hits the fan we will be out numbered and out gunned they will control the transportation, the food, the medical supplies, and bring in more help from other places.
Y'all just keep thinking it can't happen here in this country like it has in so many others, and we will be in deep doodoo!
I am still stocking up and preparing for the worse. I have given up my last freedom and all the rest they will have to come to my home and TAKE!

[45nut]

Originally Posted by 358 winchester

Y'all just keep thinking it can't happen here in this country like it has in so many others, and we will be in deep doodoo!
I am still stocking up and preparing for the worse. I have given up my last freedom and all the rest they will have to come to my home and TAKE!

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