States That Require Permits - The Firearms Forum

OBrien · 09-17-2009, 10:59 PM

For those of you that live in states that require you get taught gun safety before they let you get a permit to own a gun. If your either in the military or prior service does that superseed the class?

Here in Maine the only permit required is for concealed carry and you either need proof of a gun safety course or a DD-214. The DD-214 is accepted if you have not taken a "formal" safety course. I was just wondering if it worked this way in other states an if not which states are those so I know not to move there. lol

bcj1755 · 09-17-2009, 11:10 PM

In NC, you have to have a permit to purchase a pistol. This permit only requires a background check, no training. If you are former military, you must present a DD-214 to prove you were not dishonorably discharged. You go to the county sheriff, fill out the form, and they tell you when to call and check. Once approved, you pay $5 per permit (up to five permits), allowing you to purchase one handgun per permit. The permits are good for 5 years.

For a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP), you must present a certificate of completion for an approved CHP instruction course, which includes a live fire portion. The class generally runs about 6-8 hours and can cost anywhere from $60-$150, depending on where you go. (Mine was $60.) You then go to the county sheriff's office, fill out an application, pay $80, submit a set of fingerprints (which costs another $10), present a DD-214 (if applicable to prove you were discharge under honorable conditions), valid ID, etc. You will be notified by mail when the permit has arrived from Raleigh. The permit is good for 5 years and costs $85 to renew. If you allow it to expire, then you have to reapply from the beginning. When purchasing a pistol, you can present the CHP in lieu of a purchase permit. When buying a long gun, you can present a CHP in lieu of going through the NICS, although you still fill out the 4473.

NC does not recognise military service as a substitute for going through the state mandated CHP training course.

fleetwood1976 · 09-18-2009, 12:48 AM

wow, in Indiana we just buy guns. they have a federal call in check that takes 5 minutes tops, but if you are a good citizen you leave with it when you buy it. If you want to carry a gun you can get a lifetime personel protection permit for $125 that allows you to carry any and all lawfully obtained firearms.

VegasTech702 · 09-18-2009, 04:04 AM

No restrictions on how many handguns we can have here in NV. In Clark County the "handguns capable of being concealed" must be registered. No permit needed to purchase the firearm necessarily. Just a background check and registration.

Terry_P · 09-18-2009, 08:04 AM

NH CCL application is filed with the local police and they do a background check and check three references you supply. If nothing negative is turned up that justifies rejection then the permit is shall issue. I have had mine for over 20 years. It costs $10 and lasts for 4 years. It gives me 22 states I can carry in.

To buy a handgun you need to find one or two or however many you like and after passing the instant check, pay for them and take them home.

pinecone70 · 09-18-2009, 08:09 AM

In Minnesota, we need a permit from the sheriff to buy handguns, it is free of charge and they do a background check. For concealed carry, they require a $100 class by a certified instructor with a proficiency test, then a $100 fee and application to the sheriff. After five years, the permit expires, the class has to be taken again (which is mostly an explanation of the complex laws and requirements of carry) for $100, but if the sheriff's department application goes in early, the fee is less than $100 to renew.

I am glad I went ahead and got my concealed carry permit, I saved the money for a year to get it!

mrkirker · 09-18-2009, 08:16 AM

In Tennessee we just purchase what we want, err . . . what we can afford! No purchase permit needed. Prior mil service negates the training needed for the CWP classes, although a CWP still must be applied for in those instances.

mark_baron · 09-18-2009, 09:49 AM

In Florida no permit is required to buy any firearm (except full auto). A call-in is required ($5) and a waiting period. If you have a CWP no waiting period is required, just walk out with your purchase (after the call-in).

A CWP requires some form of training (a copy of the class certificate is required to be submitted with the initial application) but a DD-214 is acceptable as meeting the training requirement.

45nut · 09-18-2009, 09:54 AM

In Texas, if you have a CHL, they don't even do the instant back ground check. If you don't, it only takes about 5 minutes with no charge.

We don't need no stinkin license to purchase anything except type III weapons.

navis128 · 09-18-2009, 10:09 AM

I was also told that here in the Lone Star State, I provide my id and then wait three days before I can take it home, for the background check. However, we can carry in our vehicle without a CHL. I think that might be just so you can transport your purchase to your house.

As far as the DD 214 goes, if you submit a copy with your CHL application, the fee is lower.

I don't believe the safety course is required, but they are offered for a price.

Rocket J Squirl · 09-18-2009, 01:02 PM

"shall not be infringed" means you dont need a permit

OBrien · 09-18-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket J Squirl

"shall not be infringed" means you dont need a permit

I agree but it is interesting to see how much the laws vary from state to state.

kingnothingugm · 09-18-2009, 06:09 PM

Man...these threads always get my blood boiling...

2nd amendment you know

...but I understand the nature of the thread...it's laughable to see some of the "laws" in each state.

ponycar17 · 09-18-2009, 06:48 PM

In SC, you need a permit to carry a firearm concealed on your person.

To purchase a handgun, or any gun, you only need to submit to an instant background check. If you possess a concealed weapons permit, the background check is waived. A firearms/firearms law course is needed to obtain the concealed weapons permit. In either case, you walk out with the gun the same day.

It's funny how crime involving recent legal purchasers of firearms is virtually non-existant around here. Most crimes, as with anywhere, involve career criminals and/or those who have obtained firearms illegally.

Oneida Steve · 09-18-2009, 07:51 PM

I live in New York.

Don't get me started . . . . .

USMARINE1884 · 09-18-2009, 08:28 PM

Lol im in NJ, NY state isn't bad at least you do not need an Id card to purchase a muzzle loader in NY! I actually do not mind the gun laws for the most part. Some are ridiculous and we should have the "right to carry" but hey I deal with it. The NJ state government is actually the most powerful in the U.S. in terms of actual and implied power of the government. we the people? what is that?????

vulcrider · 09-20-2009, 08:17 PM

Ohio--Need certificate from certified instructor that you passed the required course, i.e, NRA basic pistol, live fire exercise and instruction on laws. Go to Sherrif's office, give $55 for background check (includes fingerprints) wait 2-4 weeks, get CCW license if no problems (Shall Issue). All eliminated with DD 214 if less than 3 years (I think).
To buy a gun, pick out what you want, pass instant check, go pay for gun (they hand it to you outside the store). Except some cities (e.e. Cleveland, which still has gun ban in defiance of state law--suit pending).

09-17-2009, 10:59 PM	#1
OBrien Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangor Maine Posts: 554	States That Require Permits For those of you that live in states that require you get taught gun safety before they let you get a permit to own a gun. If your either in the military or prior service does that superseed the class? Here in Maine the only permit required is for concealed carry and you either need proof of a gun safety course or a DD-214. The DD-214 is accepted if you have not taken a "formal" safety course. I was just wondering if it worked this way in other states an if not which states are those so I know not to move there. lol -->

09-17-2009, 11:10 PM	#2
bcj1755 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A wretched hive of scum and villiany Posts: 4,357	Re: States That Require Permits In NC, you have to have a permit to purchase a pistol. This permit only requires a background check, no training. If you are former military, you must present a DD-214 to prove you were not dishonorably discharged. You go to the county sheriff, fill out the form, and they tell you when to call and check. Once approved, you pay $5 per permit (up to five permits), allowing you to purchase one handgun per permit. The permits are good for 5 years. For a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP), you must present a certificate of completion for an approved CHP instruction course, which includes a live fire portion. The class generally runs about 6-8 hours and can cost anywhere from $60-$150, depending on where you go. (Mine was $60.) You then go to the county sheriff's office, fill out an application, pay $80, submit a set of fingerprints (which costs another $10), present a DD-214 (if applicable to prove you were discharge under honorable conditions), valid ID, etc. You will be notified by mail when the permit has arrived from Raleigh. The permit is good for 5 years and costs $85 to renew. If you allow it to expire, then you have to reapply from the beginning. When purchasing a pistol, you can present the CHP in lieu of a purchase permit. When buying a long gun, you can present a CHP in lieu of going through the NICS, although you still fill out the 4473. NC does not recognise military service as a substitute for going through the state mandated CHP training course. __________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - Cicero If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams Last edited by bcj1755; 09-17-2009 at 11:11 PM..

09-18-2009, 12:48 AM	#3
fleetwood1976 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Indiana Contributor Posts: 1,333	Re: States That Require Permits wow, in Indiana we just buy guns. they have a federal call in check that takes 5 minutes tops, but if you are a good citizen you leave with it when you buy it. If you want to carry a gun you can get a lifetime personel protection permit for $125 that allows you to carry any and all lawfully obtained firearms.

09-18-2009, 04:04 AM	#4
VegasTech702 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 360	Re: States That Require Permits No restrictions on how many handguns we can have here in NV. In Clark County the "handguns capable of being concealed" must be registered. No permit needed to purchase the firearm necessarily. Just a background check and registration. __________________ I am looking for a new, creative thing to say in my signature.

09-18-2009, 08:04 AM	#5
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: States That Require Permits NH CCL application is filed with the local police and they do a background check and check three references you supply. If nothing negative is turned up that justifies rejection then the permit is shall issue. I have had mine for over 20 years. It costs $10 and lasts for 4 years. It gives me 22 states I can carry in. To buy a handgun you need to find one or two or however many you like and after passing the instant check, pay for them and take them home. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

09-18-2009, 08:09 AM	#6
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: States That Require Permits In Minnesota, we need a permit from the sheriff to buy handguns, it is free of charge and they do a background check. For concealed carry, they require a $100 class by a certified instructor with a proficiency test, then a $100 fee and application to the sheriff. After five years, the permit expires, the class has to be taken again (which is mostly an explanation of the complex laws and requirements of carry) for $100, but if the sheriff's department application goes in early, the fee is less than $100 to renew. I am glad I went ahead and got my concealed carry permit, I saved the money for a year to get it! __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

09-18-2009, 08:16 AM	#7
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: States That Require Permits In Tennessee we just purchase what we want, err . . . what we can afford! No purchase permit needed. Prior mil service negates the training needed for the CWP classes, although a CWP still must be applied for in those instances. __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

09-18-2009, 09:49 AM	#8
mark_baron V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 112	Re: States That Require Permits In Florida no permit is required to buy any firearm (except full auto). A call-in is required ($5) and a waiting period. If you have a CWP no waiting period is required, just walk out with your purchase (after the call-in). A CWP requires some form of training (a copy of the class certificate is required to be submitted with the initial application) but a DD-214 is acceptable as meeting the training requirement.

09-18-2009, 09:54 AM	#9
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: States That Require Permits In Texas, if you have a CHL, they don't even do the instant back ground check. If you don't, it only takes about 5 minutes with no charge. We don't need no stinkin license to purchase anything except type III weapons. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

09-18-2009, 10:09 AM	#10
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: States That Require Permits I was also told that here in the Lone Star State, I provide my id and then wait three days before I can take it home, for the background check. However, we can carry in our vehicle without a CHL. I think that might be just so you can transport your purchase to your house. As far as the DD 214 goes, if you submit a copy with your CHL application, the fee is lower. I don't believe the safety course is required, but they are offered for a price.

09-18-2009, 01:02 PM	#11
Rocket J Squirl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 418	Re: States That Require Permits "shall not be infringed" means you dont need a permit

09-18-2009, 06:09 PM	#13
kingnothingugm V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 274	Re: States That Require Permits Man...these threads always get my blood boiling...2nd amendment you know...but I understand the nature of the thread...it's laughable to see some of the "laws" in each state. __________________ Freedom is not being able to do what you want, whenever you feel like it. Freedom is being willing to die defending your right to do so. -- Me Those who fight deserve our respect, wether they win or lose. -- Me

09-18-2009, 06:48 PM	#14
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: States That Require Permits In SC, you need a permit to carry a firearm concealed on your person. To purchase a handgun, or any gun, you only need to submit to an instant background check. If you possess a concealed weapons permit, the background check is waived. A firearms/firearms law course is needed to obtain the concealed weapons permit. In either case, you walk out with the gun the same day. It's funny how crime involving recent legal purchasers of firearms is virtually non-existant around here. Most crimes, as with anywhere, involve career criminals and/or those who have obtained firearms illegally. __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book

09-18-2009, 07:51 PM	#15
Oneida Steve Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,028	Re: States That Require Permits I live in New York. Don't get me started . . . . .

09-18-2009, 08:28 PM	#16
USMARINE1884 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 35	Re: States That Require Permits Lol im in NJ, NY state isn't bad at least you do not need an Id card to purchase a muzzle loader in NY! I actually do not mind the gun laws for the most part. Some are ridiculous and we should have the "right to carry" but hey I deal with it. The NJ state government is actually the most powerful in the U.S. in terms of actual and implied power of the government. we the people? what is that????? __________________ Andrew R. Ingram (USMCR) WIA Operation Iraqi Freedom Fallujah Iraq

09-20-2009, 08:17 PM	#17
vulcrider V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 72	Re: States That Require Permits Ohio--Need certificate from certified instructor that you passed the required course, i.e, NRA basic pistol, live fire exercise and instruction on laws. Go to Sherrif's office, give $55 for background check (includes fingerprints) wait 2-4 weeks, get CCW license if no problems (Shall Issue). All eliminated with DD 214 if less than 3 years (I think). To buy a gun, pick out what you want, pass instant check, go pay for gun (they hand it to you outside the store). Except some cities (e.e. Cleveland, which still has gun ban in defiance of state law--suit pending).