How many points? - The Firearms Forum

kutaho · 09-30-2009, 10:32 PM

Just curious on how you count points.
I know it's different in other states,
or is it regional?
Here we count one side of the rack.
How about you?

red14 · 09-30-2009, 11:57 PM

Florida, both sides.

kingchip · 10-01-2009, 05:17 AM

I don't count by points. I go strictly inches.

carver · 10-01-2009, 05:50 AM

Generally in the south we count both sides.

fyimo · 10-01-2009, 05:57 AM

Michigan was both sides and Arkansas is both sides. In Colorado we called them a 4x4, 3x3, 6x5 etc

ryan_marine · 10-01-2009, 06:17 AM

In ohio every thing is a point that will hold a lady's wedding band.

Ray

flannelman · 10-01-2009, 06:53 AM

Yep both sides in Arkansas. If a ring will stay on it is a point for bragging rights. If you are in a big buck contest there is usually a mininum length the point must be, like one inch, to be scorable.

USMC-03 · 10-01-2009, 09:37 AM

I'm with you Kutaho, count the side with the most points, and eye guards don't count. It's a sort of stuborn Northwest thing I think...

red14 · 10-01-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by USMC-03

I'm with you Kutaho, count the side with the most points, and eye guards don't count. It's a sort of stuborn Northwest thing I think...

Compared to ya'll, we have tiny deer.

Deer envy.

45nut · 10-01-2009, 10:30 AM

In Texas, we count all the points. I've always used the 4x4 for Mule Deer & Elk but count all points on a Whitetail.

I think the smilies changed again

Double Deuce · 10-01-2009, 11:12 AM

Here we do the 6X6 or a 6 pointer, a 4X4 would be a 4 pointer not an 8 pointer.

dianalv · 10-01-2009, 11:28 AM

I think it's a regional thing. In Eastern states that only have itty bitty whitetails, they count all the points, including eyeguards. In Western states, where we have monster mulies, we only need to count one side, without including eyeguards. We take the eyeguards as a given. So.... a four point for us here would be a ten point for them over yonder.

I think the rules that determine what makes a point are the same. Got to be able to hang a ring on it.

flannelman · 10-01-2009, 02:39 PM

Why worry about the points at all if you are only going to count half of them anyway.

Bill Sweetman · 10-01-2009, 03:48 PM

Here in "my" part of Quebec we count both sides and they have to be at least 1 inch or be able to hang a ring from . We also count em' all , stickers, brow tines you name it ............ my first deer was a 9 point and my biggest was a heavy 13 point brute!

Bill

dianalv · 10-01-2009, 04:49 PM

Y'all are just trying to make them little whitetails sound bigger, is all. We don't need to do that. We know our mulies are big!

Hmmmm..... my exhusband shot a 2 x 4 once. Big deer. Had four nice long tines on one side (plus eyeguards, of course) and just the two outside tines on the other side. 2 x 4. Ha!

tim peterson · 10-01-2009, 04:54 PM

Here in N colorado we count one side no eye guards.

kutaho · 10-02-2009, 06:57 PM

Sounds like it depends which side of the rocky's yer on.

navis128 · 10-02-2009, 08:40 PM

I was born and raised in the PNW, so imagine my eyeballs when I heard some of the point counts when I moved to the Hill Country of Texas. One evening, I thought I saw my neighbor dressing out a German Shepard, but come to find out it was a deer! They would migrate to Horseshoe Bay and what is that other community...Blue Lake, is that right, kingchip? Hunting was ban there. You could walk up to them with your empty hand out and they'd walk right up to you. Shoot, they were so tiny and inbred, you could kill them with a pen knife if you wanted.

I definately thought some wildlife management was needed in that area.

kutaho · 10-02-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by navis128

I was born and raised in the PNW, so imagine my eyeballs when I heard some of the point counts when I moved to the Hill Country of Texas. One evening, I thought I saw my neighbor dressing out a German Shepard, but come to find out it was a deer! They would migrate to Horseshoe Bay and what is that other community...Blue Lake, is that right, kingchip? Hunting was ban there. You could walk up to them with your empty hand out and they'd walk right up to you. Shoot, they were so tiny and inbred, you could kill them with a pen knife if you wanted.

I definately thought some wildlife management was needed in that area.

A german shepard.

FOML

navis128 · 10-02-2009, 11:07 PM

Yeah, a German Shepard...It made no sense as the guy was a redneck.

kutaho · 10-02-2009, 11:14 PM

kingchip · 10-03-2009, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navis128

I was born and raised in the PNW, so imagine my eyeballs when I heard some of the point counts when I moved to the Hill Country of Texas. One evening, I thought I saw my neighbor dressing out a German Shepard, but come to find out it was a deer! They would migrate to Horseshoe Bay and what is that other community...Blue Lake, is that right, kingchip? Hunting was ban there. You could walk up to them with your empty hand out and they'd walk right up to you. Shoot, they were so tiny and inbred, you could kill them with a pen knife if you wanted.

I definately thought some wildlife management was needed in that area.

Yea, the whole south side of the lake is pretty much off limits for hunting. There are way too many deer for the habitat, and very small because of it. I have seen some decent bucks over there, but the body size is pathetic.

You must be close by. Care to share?

Alpo · 10-03-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kutaho

A german shepard.

FOML

Last deer I shot probably dressed 40 pounds. Four point. Had him hanging from a tree in the front yard, cleaning him, and a neighbor wanted to know why I was cleaning a dog.

Yeah, I always heard it was "western count" and "eastern count".

09-30-2009, 10:32 PM	#1
kutaho Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,852	How many points? Just curious on how you count points. I know it's different in other states, or is it regional? Here we count one side of the rack. How about you? __________________ No man stands in the same river twice If all else fails grab a rock Mi Taku oyasin -->

09-30-2009, 11:57 PM	#2
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,916	Re: How many points? Florida, both sides. __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

10-01-2009, 05:17 AM	#3
kingchip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Marble Falls, Texas Posts: 541	Re: How many points? I don't count by points. I go strictly inches.

10-01-2009, 05:50 AM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,542	Re: How many points? Generally in the south we count both sides. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-01-2009, 05:57 AM	#5
fyimo V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 187	Re: How many points? Michigan was both sides and Arkansas is both sides. In Colorado we called them a 4x4, 3x3, 6x5 etc

10-01-2009, 06:17 AM	#6
ryan_marine Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 919	Re: How many points? In ohio every thing is a point that will hold a lady's wedding band. Ray

10-01-2009, 06:53 AM	#7
flannelman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rural Arkansas. But isn't all of Arkansas rural? Posts: 1,176	Re: How many points? Yep both sides in Arkansas. If a ring will stay on it is a point for bragging rights. If you are in a big buck contest there is usually a mininum length the point must be, like one inch, to be scorable. __________________ What we do in life echoes in eternity! **** Liberals, they make about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. If you want to be a looser the best way to get there is to hang around with other loosers.

10-01-2009, 09:37 AM	#8
USMC-03 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,825	Re: How many points? I'm with you Kutaho, count the side with the most points, and eye guards don't count. It's a sort of stuborn Northwest thing I think... __________________ Let not the rifles of good and free men be reforged into plowshares, but may they rest in a place of honor; ready, well oiled and God willing unused. For if the price of peace becomes licking the boots of tyrants, then "To Arms!" I say, and may the fortunes of war smile upon patriots. - Fortes Fortuna Javat -

10-01-2009, 10:30 AM	#10
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,433	Re: How many points? In Texas, we count all the points. I've always used the 4x4 for Mule Deer & Elk but count all points on a Whitetail. I think the smilies changed again __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

10-01-2009, 11:12 AM	#11
Double Deuce V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 313	Re: How many points? Here we do the 6X6 or a 6 pointer, a 4X4 would be a 4 pointer not an 8 pointer.

10-01-2009, 11:28 AM	#12
dianalv Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 1,160	Re: How many points? I think it's a regional thing. In Eastern states that only have itty bitty whitetails, they count all the points, including eyeguards. In Western states, where we have monster mulies, we only need to count one side, without including eyeguards. We take the eyeguards as a given. So.... a four point for us here would be a ten point for them over yonder. I think the rules that determine what makes a point are the same. Got to be able to hang a ring on it.

10-01-2009, 02:39 PM	#13
flannelman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rural Arkansas. But isn't all of Arkansas rural? Posts: 1,176	Re: How many points? Why worry about the points at all if you are only going to count half of them anyway. __________________ What we do in life echoes in eternity! **** Liberals, they make about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. If you want to be a looser the best way to get there is to hang around with other loosers.

10-01-2009, 03:48 PM	#14
Bill Sweetman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Port-Daniel Que. Canada..EH! Posts: 116	Re: How many points? Here in "my" part of Quebec we count both sides and they have to be at least 1 inch or be able to hang a ring from . We also count em' all , stickers, brow tines you name it ............ my first deer was a 9 point and my biggest was a heavy 13 point brute! Bill

10-01-2009, 04:49 PM	#15
dianalv Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 1,160	Re: How many points? Y'all are just trying to make them little whitetails sound bigger, is all. We don't need to do that. We know our mulies are big! Hmmmm..... my exhusband shot a 2 x 4 once. Big deer. Had four nice long tines on one side (plus eyeguards, of course) and just the two outside tines on the other side. 2 x 4. Ha!

10-01-2009, 04:54 PM	#16
tim peterson V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: COLORADO Posts: 280	Re: How many points? Here in N colorado we count one side no eye guards. __________________ The great objective is that every man be armed. Every one who is able may have a Gun. Patrick Henry

10-02-2009, 06:57 PM	#17
kutaho Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,852	Re: How many points? Sounds like it depends which side of the rocky's yer on. __________________ No man stands in the same river twice If all else fails grab a rock Mi Taku oyasin

10-02-2009, 08:40 PM	#18
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: How many points? I was born and raised in the PNW, so imagine my eyeballs when I heard some of the point counts when I moved to the Hill Country of Texas. One evening, I thought I saw my neighbor dressing out a German Shepard, but come to find out it was a deer! They would migrate to Horseshoe Bay and what is that other community...Blue Lake, is that right, kingchip? Hunting was ban there. You could walk up to them with your empty hand out and they'd walk right up to you. Shoot, they were so tiny and inbred, you could kill them with a pen knife if you wanted. I definately thought some wildlife management was needed in that area.

10-02-2009, 11:07 PM	#20
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: How many points? Yeah, a German Shepard...It made no sense as the guy was a redneck.

10-02-2009, 11:14 PM	#21
kutaho Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,852	Re: How many points? __________________ No man stands in the same river twice If all else fails grab a rock Mi Taku oyasin