Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? - The Firearms Forum

rentalguy1 · 10-13-2009, 08:39 AM

I got back into firearms about a year ago. I am building a collection, but not for investment purposes. This is a collection of firearms that I just want. I just bought a Taurus PT1911, and I love it. Now I am saving for my next toy. I am just not sure if I want to get a AR-15 or a AK-47. I will eventually end up with both, but which should I be looking for first? The one that I can find the best deal on?

Suwannee Tim · 10-13-2009, 11:49 AM

I just bought a Kel-Tec RFB, it's a beast.

Vladimir · 10-13-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rentalguy1

I got back into firearms about a year ago. I am building a collection, but not for investment purposes. This is a collection of firearms that I just want. I just bought a Taurus PT1911, and I love it. Now I am saving for my next toy. I am just not sure if I want to get a AR-15 or a AK-47. I will eventually end up with both, but which should I be looking for first? The one that I can find the best deal on?

When you have the money together, buy whatever good deal you find! Since you aren't looking specifically for one or the other, I think this would be your best bet.

mrkirker · 10-13-2009, 01:58 PM

Don't answer this 'out-loud' - but if you don't have one, a good Gunsafe!

Airdale · 10-13-2009, 02:39 PM

After renewing my long dormant interest in fire arms I went the route you are following. Now that I've had more time to consider my choices I wish I would have waited and saved my money for a more worthy acquisition in the form of a Springfield Armory M1A. You can opt for any configuration that rings your chimes but you will be getting a true battle rifle that is much more versatile than the two choices you mentioned.

The M1A will shoot further with more accuracy and deliver a much more deadly round (my opinion only) much more reliably.

Suwannee Tim · 10-13-2009, 03:18 PM

I have an NM M1A with a wood stock I really like. I don't think it is well suited to scope mounting but other than that it is just ducky. In retrospect I would not have gotten the NM version.

woolleyworm · 10-13-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim

I have an NM M1A with a wood stock I really like. I don't think it is well suited to scope mounting but other than that it is just ducky. In retrospect I would not have gotten the NM version.

Why not the Nation Match model?
I think a scope on it would be awesome too, a Mk84 adds that battle ready look to them.

Rental - as far as your next gun, have you seen the Sig556 Classic??? They're sweet!!!

Kieran McCaig · 10-13-2009, 04:23 PM

You should buy which ever one is at the top of Obama's list of things to ban.That's what i would do get the one you want now,later might be to late.

rentalguy1 · 10-13-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kieran McCaig

You should buy which ever one is at the top of Obama's list of things to ban.That's what i would do get the one you want now,later might be to late.

I'm no fan of the man, and I can't wait until he is out of office, but I have yet to see any legislation banning any types of weapons or ammo. I've heard all kinds of internet buzz about this and that, but about 99% of it has been debunked. Will he eventually do something? Most likely, but as of now there's nothing. This is exactly why it is harder than hades to get ammo right now. Maybe I should just go buy about 500 AR's because he may ban something. Then everyone could get mad at BHO because the price of AR's is up to $5000/each....sheesh

DogRanger · 10-13-2009, 05:30 PM

Decide what job you need to do and get the right tool for it.

Kieran McCaig · 10-13-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rentalguy1

I'm no fan of the man, and I can't wait until he is out of office, but I have yet to see any legislation banning any types of weapons or ammo. I've heard all kinds of internet buzz about this and that, but about 99% of it has been debunked. Will he eventually do something? Most likely, but as of now there's nothing. This is exactly why it is harder than hades to get ammo right now. Maybe I should just go buy about 500 AR's because he may ban something. Then everyone could get mad at BHO because the price of AR's is up to $5000/each....sheesh

We're seeing it up here,anything that is classed as a mil spec round is getting harder to get because alot of it is on the NATO small arms pact.

Suwannee Tim · 10-13-2009, 06:39 PM

The M1A is heavy and a steel scope mount makes it a lot heavier. I have read that the aluminum mount is not durable. I don't think it is an ideal candidate for scope mounting. The SA White Feather rifle I think mounts a scope without making the gun too much heavier. So you are left with an open sighted gun. An NM rifle should shoot a couple inches at 100, a standard rifle, 4 inches or so. With an open sighted gun firing offhand, prone and sitting you have to be a heck of a marksman to tell the difference. So there is no particular advantage for the average shooter in the NM version. The disadvantage is that with the glass bedded stock the gun is not easy to assemble and disassemble and it's recommended that it not be done any more than absolutely necessary. And of course the NM is more expensive. If you want something really accurate get one of the rear lugged guns. Again, not something the average shooter needs.

Lotsdragon · 10-13-2009, 07:27 PM

Think hard on some reloading equipment. Also the safe is a very good idea.

rentalguy1 · 10-14-2009, 08:04 AM

The AR will be for tactical "shoot-n-scoot." The AK would be for taking out stationary paper targets, or zombies...whichever one presents itself. Which ever one I buy first, the other will come a few months later. As far as a safe goes, I plan on building a storage cabinet in my basement to hold all guns, ammo, reloading components and equipment, and accessories.

army mp · 10-14-2009, 08:44 AM

It funny how much things change in ones life time. Now if you collect guns. You keep it secrete. And use money that once would have gone to a nice weapon and scope. To Buy a heavy duty safe and Alarm system. As a boy I would go to friends or families homes. Most everyone. Displayed their weapons in Some beautiful wooden glass front gun cabinets. They were more show cases of trophies, than gun lockers.

Double D · 10-14-2009, 10:01 AM

Army, I agree. I used to have one of those cabinets and even had a couple hanging on my wall. Not anymore......

Double D · 10-14-2009, 10:12 AM

Rentalguy, I sent you a pm....

ToolsForPros · 10-14-2009, 04:01 PM

The AK47 will be way heavier to tote around (if you are just going to sit and look at it, that's fine

), also the 7.62 ammo is more expensive than the 5.56 for the AR. You can buy more "cooler" toys for the AR than the AK and get your tacticool goin.

Let us know what you get!

rentalguy1 · 10-14-2009, 08:55 PM

I just saw a billboard for the fall gun show today. It's going to be Oct 31-Nov 1st. Looks like I may end up getting something sooner than I thought. I wonder if I will be able to find a reloading rig there? Something is telling me I'll be dropping a bunch of $$ that weekend.

glocknut · 10-14-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim

I just bought a Kel-Tec RFB, it's a beast.

+1

I've heard those Kel Teks are pretty darn good for the money!

mike
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gdmoody · 10-15-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Airdale

After renewing my long dormant interest in fire arms I went the route you are following. Now that I've had more time to consider my choices I wish I would have waited and saved my money for a more worthy acquisition in the form of a Springfield Armory M1A. You can opt for any configuration that rings your chimes but you will be getting a true battle rifle that is much more versatile than the two choices you mentioned.

The M1A will shoot further with more accuracy and deliver a much more deadly round (my opinion only) much more reliably.

My dream gun is a Springfield M1A, as a matter of fact, I am going to one of the local area gun shops to look at one on Monday. The M1A's have gotten so high priced that I am having a hard time justifying spending over $1400 for a rifle. I just sold a PS90 and have the money available, but for that kind of money I could buy two or maybe even three pistols.

I am still leaning heavily toward the M1A, though.

The gun shop has two in stock, a standard version with a black synthetic stock and a standard version with Walnut stiock. I am not a real fan of plastic stocks but if there is a big difference in the price I will go with the plastic one. I found an ad in Shotgun News from a place called Fred's Military M14 Rifle Stocks that sell the Walnut or Birch stocks for around $50. If I do get the plastic one at a MUCH better price than I will order a Walnut stock form Fred's.

Laufer · 10-19-2009, 03:39 AM

For a high-value semi-auto gun at an affordable price, an SKS, which has better ergonomics than an AK.

zb338 · 11-05-2009, 10:00 AM

The AR-15 can be a very accurate rifle. The Ak will never be.

Zeke

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 11-06-2009, 08:04 AM

Get a manly round, like the 450/400NE.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/produc...ets/11324.html

Sandman · 11-06-2009, 09:20 AM

If you plan on getting both, it doesn't really matter. Go for the good deal. Personally, I prefer the AR, but that is just personal preference. AK's don't do a lot for me.

10-13-2009, 08:39 AM	#1
rentalguy1 Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mountains of NE TN. Posts: 884	Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? I got back into firearms about a year ago. I am building a collection, but not for investment purposes. This is a collection of firearms that I just want. I just bought a Taurus PT1911, and I love it. Now I am saving for my next toy. I am just not sure if I want to get a AR-15 or a AK-47. I will eventually end up with both, but which should I be looking for first? The one that I can find the best deal on? -->

10-13-2009, 11:49 AM	#2
Suwannee Tim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,227	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? I just bought a Kel-Tec RFB, it's a beast.

10-13-2009, 01:58 PM	#4
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? Don't answer this 'out-loud' - but if you don't have one, a good Gunsafe! __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

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Airdale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: N.W. Arkansas Contributor Posts: 750	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? After renewing my long dormant interest in fire arms I went the route you are following. Now that I've had more time to consider my choices I wish I would have waited and saved my money for a more worthy acquisition in the form of a Springfield Armory M1A. You can opt for any configuration that rings your chimes but you will be getting a true battle rifle that is much more versatile than the two choices you mentioned. The M1A will shoot further with more accuracy and deliver a much more deadly round (my opinion only) much more reliably. __________________ "The Utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of the wealth] and a community of goods [central ownership of the means of production and distribution], are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown.[These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional." Samuel Adams

10-13-2009, 03:18 PM	#6
Suwannee Tim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,227	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? I have an NM M1A with a wood stock I really like. I don't think it is well suited to scope mounting but other than that it is just ducky. In retrospect I would not have gotten the NM version.

10-13-2009, 04:23 PM	#8
Kieran McCaig Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: canada Posts: 1,469	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? You should buy which ever one is at the top of Obama's list of things to ban.That's what i would do get the one you want now,later might be to late. __________________ My 2 cents worth is only.183 with exc hange.

10-13-2009, 05:30 PM	#10
DogRanger Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 39	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? Decide what job you need to do and get the right tool for it.

10-13-2009, 06:39 PM	#12
Suwannee Tim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,227	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? The M1A is heavy and a steel scope mount makes it a lot heavier. I have read that the aluminum mount is not durable. I don't think it is an ideal candidate for scope mounting. The SA White Feather rifle I think mounts a scope without making the gun too much heavier. So you are left with an open sighted gun. An NM rifle should shoot a couple inches at 100, a standard rifle, 4 inches or so. With an open sighted gun firing offhand, prone and sitting you have to be a heck of a marksman to tell the difference. So there is no particular advantage for the average shooter in the NM version. The disadvantage is that with the glass bedded stock the gun is not easy to assemble and disassemble and it's recommended that it not be done any more than absolutely necessary. And of course the NM is more expensive. If you want something really accurate get one of the rear lugged guns. Again, not something the average shooter needs.

10-13-2009, 07:27 PM	#13
Lotsdragon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Potosi, Mo Posts: 813	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? Think hard on some reloading equipment. Also the safe is a very good idea. __________________ "First comes smiles,then lies.Last is gunfire" Roland Deschain

10-14-2009, 08:04 AM	#14
rentalguy1 Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mountains of NE TN. Posts: 884	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? The AR will be for tactical "shoot-n-scoot." The AK would be for taking out stationary paper targets, or zombies...whichever one presents itself. Which ever one I buy first, the other will come a few months later. As far as a safe goes, I plan on building a storage cabinet in my basement to hold all guns, ammo, reloading components and equipment, and accessories.

10-14-2009, 08:44 AM	#15
army mp V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: western Pa, Posts: 479	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? It funny how much things change in ones life time. Now if you collect guns. You keep it secrete. And use money that once would have gone to a nice weapon and scope. To Buy a heavy duty safe and Alarm system. As a boy I would go to friends or families homes. Most everyone. Displayed their weapons in Some beautiful wooden glass front gun cabinets. They were more show cases of trophies, than gun lockers.

10-14-2009, 10:01 AM	#16
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,061	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? Army, I agree. I used to have one of those cabinets and even had a couple hanging on my wall. Not anymore...... __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

10-14-2009, 10:12 AM	#17
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,061	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? Rentalguy, I sent you a pm.... __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

10-14-2009, 04:01 PM	#18
ToolsForPros V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 77	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? The AK47 will be way heavier to tote around (if you are just going to sit and look at it, that's fine ), also the 7.62 ammo is more expensive than the 5.56 for the AR. You can buy more "cooler" toys for the AR than the AK and get your tacticool goin. Let us know what you get!

10-14-2009, 08:55 PM	#19
rentalguy1 Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mountains of NE TN. Posts: 884	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? I just saw a billboard for the fall gun show today. It's going to be Oct 31-Nov 1st. Looks like I may end up getting something sooner than I thought. I wonder if I will be able to find a reloading rig there? Something is telling me I'll be dropping a bunch of $$ that weekend.

10-19-2009, 03:39 AM	#22
Laufer V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West TN. Posts: 188	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? For a high-value semi-auto gun at an affordable price, an SKS, which has better ergonomics than an AK. Last edited by Laufer; 11-10-2009 at 01:55 AM..

11-05-2009, 10:00 AM	#23
zb338 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Recently moved to Pennsylvania. Posts: 286	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? The AR-15 can be a very accurate rifle. The Ak will never be. Zeke

11-06-2009, 08:04 AM	#24
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? Get a manly round, like the 450/400NE. http://www.ruger-firearms.com/produc...ets/11324.html

11-06-2009, 09:20 AM	#25
Sandman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 552	Re: Saving for my next toy, but which to buy? If you plan on getting both, it doesn't really matter. Go for the good deal. Personally, I prefer the AR, but that is just personal preference. AK's don't do a lot for me.