.25 cal. guardian - The Firearms Forum

vppokerplayer · 11-19-2009, 08:37 PM

I have a .25 cal. guardian FIE corp. pistol. Does anyone know what type of bullets this gun takes?

Alpo · 11-19-2009, 09:54 PM

I don't know the "Guardian", but an Firearms Import and Export pistol, in 25, should be a little pocket automatic chambered for 25 ACP, also called 25 Auto and 6.35mm Browning.

vppokerplayer · 11-30-2009, 10:15 PM

I tried .25 acp and .25 auto didn't work. I post a pic and hope it helps.

RJay · 11-30-2009, 10:42 PM

Well, that little gun is a new one on me. I can find no reference to it. However it should chamber and fire 25 ACP, if it doesn't, then it needs to be tore down to find out why. What are all the markings on it. Unless it was assembled in the U.S. there should be " Made In " on it somewhere. Again, I don't know your expertise on firearms, so I hope I'm not insulting you, but have you field striped it and checked the chamber??

woolleyworm · 12-01-2009, 06:44 AM

I am willing to bet that it takes 25NAA ammo, good luck on finding it, not very popular and difficult to locate. You could call North American Arms and see if they have any recommendations. I would call them and give them the serial number, they can probably get you a user manual for it also. NAA makes a variety of decent mouse guns.

http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=25NAA3520 these guys are out of stock currently, but do carry it when available.

Did the .25's you tried drop all the way into the chamber, ie too small? 25NAA is a 32acp necked down to .25; so if you tried the .25acp, the chamber should be too large if it is chambered for the 25NAA.

best advice I could give you is to call NAA and you'll have a definite answer.

oscarmayer · 12-01-2009, 06:59 AM

to my knowledge NAA .25 is made for one gun only and that is the NAA. no other guns are made to chamber that round. if the gun pictured was made to chamber the naa25 it would be so stamped. i think it's made to chamber the .25 or browning 6.35 ( same ammo) . and if it doesnt work with that it has a problem but a picture of the slide opened up and showing the breech would help . and not sure that gun pictured is worth it but take it to a smith and have it checked out

Big ugly · 12-01-2009, 07:07 AM

Yup it is a North American Arms 25. Good shootin little monster if you can find ammo for it. NAA is still in buisness so you might try contacting them to see if they have any suppliers for the ammo. I am not a big fan of a 25 but these things really pack a wallop for such a little guy. 1200 fps or somethin like that.

Alpo · 12-01-2009, 07:26 AM

It can't be a North American, if it's marked FIE. FIE was an importer.

25 NAA is a fairly new cartridge. Only a couple of three years old. FIE went out of business 10 years or more ago.

If it's not a 25 ACP, then I'm guessing it's either a blank pistol or a teargas pistol.

oscarmayer · 12-01-2009, 07:32 AM

the gun pictured is not a NAA 25 . and wont chamber that round. and alpo is correct if it doesn't chamber a 25acp it's might be teargas or blank....

DigitalChuck · 02-12-2010, 07:16 PM

Hello - This is my first post here - I apologize for bumping this really old thread - but I hope that in some way this information can be used.

I joined the forums because I am searching for information about this same pistol - my father owns one.

I see that you say you used the 25 auto - the problem with his is that they do jam, but only after he has fired a few magazines.

Once he has cleaned it - it only jams about 1 every 25 rounds fired. Not too bad for a firearm that he has had for over 15 years.

He says this is the ammunition that he prefers to fire in his.

I took the image today, but the date on my camera is wrong because I just put new batteries in it

He gets it off the shelf at Wal-Mart.

Bill Pistol · 03-22-2011, 10:26 PM

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread.

I have a pistol identical to the one in post #3. I need a trigger, trigger return spring, and the link to connect the trigger to the lever that releases the sear. I think everything else is there. Please point to where I can get these parts.

Appreciate any help, thanks.

PS: It is chambered for the .25 ACP (6.35mm Auto)

woolleyworm · 03-22-2011, 10:43 PM

No apologies needed for bumping old threads, welcome to TFF Bill !

You should be able to find some parts for your G-27 here:

http://www.gun-parts.com/galesi/

Best to call and order.

Bill Pistol · 03-22-2011, 11:18 PM

Thanks, Woolleyworm! I'll call them tomorrow.

arreguin_25 · 04-17-2011, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vppokerplayer

I tried .25 acp and .25 auto didn't work. I post a pic and hope it helps.

i have an identical gun to yours but i need a safety,firing pin,and a clip but dont know where i can get them so if u have any information please email me arreguin_24@yahoo.com thankyou! much appreciated .

jartisjr · 04-30-2012, 08:42 PM

i have this gun in chrome and i use Federal classic full metal jacket 25cal 50 grain

jhall · 01-12-2013, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vppokerplayer

I have a .25 cal. guardian FIE corp. pistol. Does anyone know what type of bullets this gun takes?

[ It probably takes a naa 25 cal shell which is a 32 necked down. can be ordered from northamerican arms

jhall · 01-30-2013, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vppokerplayer

I tried .25 acp and .25 auto didn't work. I post a pic and hope it helps.

Northamerican arms

jhall · 02-20-2013, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJay

Well, that little gun is a new one on me. I can find no reference to it. However it should chamber and fire 25 ACP, if it doesn't, then it needs to be tore down to find out why. What are all the markings on it. Unless it was assembled in the U.S. there should be " Made In " on it somewhere. Again, I don't know your expertise on firearms, so I hope I'm not insulting you, but have you field striped it and checked the chamber??

That gun is a naa25guadian. It fires necked down 32 ammo.Can be purchased at NorthAmeranArms

jhall · 02-20-2013, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arreguin_25

i have an identical gun to yours but i need a safety,firing pin,and a clip but dont know where i can get them so if u have any information please email me arreguin_24@yahoo.com thankyou! much appreciated .

Parts for the guardian are available thru NorthAmericanArms

RJay · 02-20-2013, 08:20 AM

Good Grief folks, that gun is not a NAA Guardian, NOR IS IT CHAMBERED IN in NAA .25. It is a cheap gun sold by FIE and the reason it doesn't work is because it is a cheap gun sold by FIE and it jams. The .25 NAA cartridge is used in only one gun, the North American Arms Guardian, which is a DIFFRENT GUARDIAN THAN THE ONE SHOWN.

Alpo · 02-20-2013, 08:31 AM

Oh yeah, absolutely, it's NAA. Easy to tell. Looks exactly like it, don't it.

Folks, just because two guns use the same name don't mean they are same gun.

Good Grief, indeed.

11-19-2009, 08:37 PM	#1
vppokerplayer Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	.25 cal. guardian I have a .25 cal. guardian FIE corp. pistol. Does anyone know what type of bullets this gun takes? -->

11-19-2009, 09:54 PM	#2
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,664	Re: .25 cal. guardian I don't know the "Guardian", but an Firearms Import and Export pistol, in 25, should be a little pocket automatic chambered for 25 ACP, also called 25 Auto and 6.35mm Browning. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-30-2009, 10:42 PM	#4
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: .25 cal. guardian Well, that little gun is a new one on me. I can find no reference to it. However it should chamber and fire 25 ACP, if it doesn't, then it needs to be tore down to find out why. What are all the markings on it. Unless it was assembled in the U.S. there should be " Made In " on it somewhere. Again, I don't know your expertise on firearms, so I hope I'm not insulting you, but have you field striped it and checked the chamber?? __________________ RonJames

12-01-2009, 06:44 AM	#5
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: .25 cal. guardian I am willing to bet that it takes 25NAA ammo, good luck on finding it, not very popular and difficult to locate. You could call North American Arms and see if they have any recommendations. I would call them and give them the serial number, they can probably get you a user manual for it also. NAA makes a variety of decent mouse guns. http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=25NAA3520 these guys are out of stock currently, but do carry it when available. Did the .25's you tried drop all the way into the chamber, ie too small? 25NAA is a 32acp necked down to .25; so if you tried the .25acp, the chamber should be too large if it is chambered for the 25NAA. best advice I could give you is to call NAA and you'll have a definite answer. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." . Last edited by woolleyworm; 12-01-2009 at 06:52 AM.. Reason: little more description on the ammo and addt'l question for VP

12-01-2009, 06:59 AM	#6
oscarmayer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Contributor Posts: 2,387	Re: .25 cal. guardian to my knowledge NAA .25 is made for one gun only and that is the NAA. no other guns are made to chamber that round. if the gun pictured was made to chamber the naa25 it would be so stamped. i think it's made to chamber the .25 or browning 6.35 ( same ammo) . and if it doesnt work with that it has a problem but a picture of the slide opened up and showing the breech would help . and not sure that gun pictured is worth it but take it to a smith and have it checked out

11-30-2009, 10:15 PM	#3
vppokerplayer Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	Re: .25 cal. guardian I tried .25 acp and .25 auto didn't work. I post a pic and hope it helps. Attached Images

12-01-2009, 07:07 AM	#7
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: .25 cal. guardian Yup it is a North American Arms 25. Good shootin little monster if you can find ammo for it. NAA is still in buisness so you might try contacting them to see if they have any suppliers for the ammo. I am not a big fan of a 25 but these things really pack a wallop for such a little guy. 1200 fps or somethin like that. __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

12-01-2009, 07:26 AM	#8
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,664	Re: .25 cal. guardian It can't be a North American, if it's marked FIE. FIE was an importer. 25 NAA is a fairly new cartridge. Only a couple of three years old. FIE went out of business 10 years or more ago. If it's not a 25 ACP, then I'm guessing it's either a blank pistol or a teargas pistol. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

12-01-2009, 07:32 AM	#9
oscarmayer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Contributor Posts: 2,387	Re: .25 cal. guardian the gun pictured is not a NAA 25 . and wont chamber that round. and alpo is correct if it doesn't chamber a 25acp it's might be teargas or blank....

02-12-2010, 07:16 PM	#10
DigitalChuck Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1	Re: .25 cal. guardian Hello - This is my first post here - I apologize for bumping this really old thread - but I hope that in some way this information can be used. I joined the forums because I am searching for information about this same pistol - my father owns one. I see that you say you used the 25 auto - the problem with his is that they do jam, but only after he has fired a few magazines. Once he has cleaned it - it only jams about 1 every 25 rounds fired. Not too bad for a firearm that he has had for over 15 years. He says this is the ammunition that he prefers to fire in his. I took the image today, but the date on my camera is wrong because I just put new batteries in it He gets it off the shelf at Wal-Mart. Last edited by DigitalChuck; 02-12-2010 at 07:18 PM.. Reason: Added information about the date in the image - and Wal-Mart info

03-22-2011, 10:26 PM	#11
Bill Pistol Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 15	Re: .25 cal. guardian Apologies for resurrecting an old thread. I have a pistol identical to the one in post #3. I need a trigger, trigger return spring, and the link to connect the trigger to the lever that releases the sear. I think everything else is there. Please point to where I can get these parts. Appreciate any help, thanks. PS: It is chambered for the .25 ACP (6.35mm Auto)

03-22-2011, 10:43 PM	#12
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: .25 cal. guardian No apologies needed for bumping old threads, welcome to TFF Bill ! You should be able to find some parts for your G-27 here: http://www.gun-parts.com/galesi/ Best to call and order. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

03-22-2011, 11:18 PM	#13
Bill Pistol Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 15	Re: .25 cal. guardian Thanks, Woolleyworm! I'll call them tomorrow.

04-30-2012, 08:42 PM	#15
jartisjr Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2	Re: .25 cal. guardian i have this gun in chrome and i use Federal classic full metal jacket 25cal 50 grain

02-20-2013, 08:20 AM	#20
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: .25 cal. guardian Good Grief folks, that gun is not a NAA Guardian, NOR IS IT CHAMBERED IN in NAA .25. It is a cheap gun sold by FIE and the reason it doesn't work is because it is a cheap gun sold by FIE and it jams. The .25 NAA cartridge is used in only one gun, the North American Arms Guardian, which is a DIFFRENT GUARDIAN THAN THE ONE SHOWN. __________________ RonJames

02-20-2013, 08:31 AM	#21
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,664	Re: .25 cal. guardian Oh yeah, absolutely, it's NAA. Easy to tell. Looks exactly like it, don't it. Folks, just because two guns use the same name don't mean they are same gun. Good Grief, indeed. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.