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Kimber ReAssembly ?
I field stripped my pistol to clean some rust off the barrel. I re-assembled it. I made sure to have the slide stop shaft thru the barrel link, then I rotated the stop & aligned with the disassembly notch and seated it.
The slide doesn't come all the way back to enable engagement of the slide stop now and if I "rack" (I'm assuming that's moving the slide back and forth) the slide, the compressed spring assembly will move forward. Does this all "tighten up" when the take down tool is removed? I don't really want to remove that unless I'm sure I'm not going to ruin it. It's really hard to remove though. It's not "dropping out" like the manual says it's supposed to. Any experiences to share? Thx.
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12-10-2009, 12:05 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
I am not sure exactly what you mean when you say remove the take down tool. I know that when I had my Kimber, I had a heck of a time reassembling it until I learned to have the slide "upside down" when putting it back together (slide on the bottom and the grip pointed up). Once I did that, it went together just fine.
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12-10-2009, 07:08 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
I had the same problem with my springfield the first time. I cant tell you what I did to get it right. I just kept messing with it and it finally worked. I have 2 other 1911s and have never had that problem until now.
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12-10-2009, 09:40 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
Are you sure you got the slide stop in the loop link? I've made that mistake where I thought I had it in there ,but found out that I was in front of it. Try removing the slide, check the barrel link is in the 'upright' position. Turn the slide upside down, and slowly slide the frame/slide together while watching the hole through the frame. You will see the link loop come into sight, and then the hole line up. Of course, now you can slide the post in, align the notch, and so forth.
I'm a bit confused with the "do I have to remove the tool" part. The tool is just that polymer 'wrench'. It should just slip on the front of the assymbly to aid in getting the barrel bushing to rotate over the full length guide rod. So it should not interfere with that at all. You could actually do this without the tool at all, just with your fingers, but the tool makes it easier. Hint, once the slide/frame is assymbled, if you lock the manual safety into it's notch, it helps relieve a bit of tension on the recoil spring and keeps things from moving around while you manipulate the bushing back over the guide rod. Hope this helps.
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12-10-2009, 09:52 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
I did find that turning it upside down helped a lot. I can see the barrel link through the stop hole.
I think I'm going to have to go online and watch some videos. I think I'm experiencing Karma...I have been a difficult woman in my life and now it's caught up with me!  Thanks y'all for all your help and advice. I sure appreciate it. PS...I'm apprehensive about taking that tool out of the spring assembly. Doesn't that kinda equate to a spring on your vehicle? Once you let the compression off...good luck.
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12-10-2009, 10:24 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
It's not that big a deal. It's only a 16 lb spring. (twenty lb if its a compact) Just rotate to the required position, and let up slowly. Not ultra slow, just control it. you will lift up about two inches and all the pressure will be off of it. I usually kinda cup my hand over it so that it doesn't get away from me.
The trouble comes if you just clear it and let it go. I will shoot across the room on ya. It's not gonna kill ya or anything, but it can be a bugger to find it behind the couch!! When reassymbling, use your thumb to compress the spring cover, rotate the bushing over far enough to catch the edge. This will hold the assybly in the slide. Now, use the tool to compress fully and swing the bushing over into the fixed position. I always hold the weapon so that if the spring does get away from me, it goes up and out so as not to poke me in the eye.  P.S. If I were there, I could show you in about 5 seconds... Once you get it, youll barely think twice about it again.
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12-11-2009, 12:28 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
I'm having problems uploading the photos. I think they might be too large.
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12-11-2009, 12:43 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
This is the bull barrel, the spring assembly and the top of the slide (that is upsidedown).
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12-11-2009, 01:03 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
Note how far forward the spring is. Is this correct?
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12-11-2009, 02:14 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
So I slid the frame onto the slide while it was upside down. It gave some resistance just before the frame covered the spring. Gave it a little pressure and it went together, turned it right side up while looking thru the stop shaft hole and watched the barrel link come down. Put the stop thru and then rotated up to the disassembly notch (I had to move the slide back to align). This is as far as I can get the slide, so the slide stop can't hook in.
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12-11-2009, 02:18 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
I guess this one would be better. I hope I don't get kicked off.
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12-11-2009, 02:58 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
This is exactly the same issue I had with my new springer. But after fooling with it I got it. On my other 1911s the spring just comes out when you pull the slide off. But on this one and yours it looks like, the spring has to be compressed and held that way to dissasemble. I have a half moon spring block about a half inch long and I just knocked it off and it popped out and everything started working. I did that a couple times before that and it was doing the same thing yours is. If we both have had the same problem then I have to say we are either both amatures or others have had the same problem and there is a solution.
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12-11-2009, 03:05 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
I admit I'm an amature. I was expecting a smack upside the head from one of the guys telling me I had the slide backwards or something.
I haven't dropped it and she has been like this for weeks! I'm getting frustrated and disinterested quickly.
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12-11-2009, 04:01 PM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
Uh oh sounds like you might better send it to me!
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In the image in post 12 it appears you've got it. The slide will slide back to that position and stop, now grip the pistol in your right hand with your thumb under the slide stop (making sure your grip isn't compressing the grip safety) push the slide back “hard” wile pushing up on the slide lock with your thumb.With the slide locked back remove the wire take down tool. Now push back on the slide and pull down on the slide lock wile easing the slide forward (don’t let the slide slam forward with out a magazine in it). Last edited by Kimber; 12-11-2009 at 08:59 PM.. |
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12-12-2009, 08:04 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
Navis,
I was unaware that you had a bull barrel, so my instructions were basically useless. Sorry. Whole different animal. Nice gun though! I'd be glad to own it. Be sure to note in Kimber's instructions, while pushing the slide back, be sure to not be activating the grip safety. Myself, along with many others here would gladly be willing to take that gun off your hands, but I'm sure that would be a mistake on your part!
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12-12-2009, 09:23 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
Questions - If I was unaware of engaging the safety, do I have to strip it down again and start over? How do you not activate the safety, the thing travels the length of the grip. I might need some leverage, a little English, to get the slide back to the stop. Any suggestions?
How hard is "hard"? Can I break it? Or will it break me first? Is this going to get easier? I've shot only 250 rounds so will it take a "break in" period? Also, I read in the manual that the spring has to be replaced at 800 rounds. That doesn't seem like a lot, but I'm new, so maybe it is, but can you tell (feel it) when it needs replaced or do you have to keep track of the rounds? What happens if I loose the "take down tool", SOL? Thanks all!
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I still think you might not have the strength to grip the pistol and slide the slide back and push up on the slide lock. |
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12-12-2009, 09:45 AM
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Re: Kimber ReAssembly ?
DD - No I haven't taken the tool out - I'm uncomfortable with the possibility of an unguided missle going across the living room. But also, without the slide locked back, it appears that it is not completely clear and it has resistance. It's not just falling out like described.
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Let me ask you...can you lock the slide back even with the safety depresssed? If not, then I have to remember how I was practicing.
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