Glock 28 Illegal? - The Firearms Forum

45nut · 12-30-2009, 09:02 AM

Why is the Glock 28 illegal in the US? I don't really want a .380 but WTH is the answer to this question?

Shooter45 · 12-30-2009, 01:49 PM

Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28. These pistols were developed for those countries that forbid the civilian possession of a handgun chambered in a common military caliber.

45nut · 12-30-2009, 02:42 PM

Can you explain the import points a little?

cakes · 12-30-2009, 04:11 PM

A pistol must reach 75 points in order to be eligible for importation.

Length: for each 1/4" over 6" =1

Forged steel frame =15

Forged HTS alloy frame =20

Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.)=1

.22 short and .25 auto = 0

.22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto=3

9mm parabellum and over=10

Locked breech mechanism=5

Loaded chamber indicator=5

Grip safety=3

Magazine safety=5

Firing pin block or lock=10

External hammer=2

Double action=10

Drift adjustable target sight=5

Click adjustable target sight=10

Target grips=5

Target trigger=2

Jim K · 12-30-2009, 04:18 PM

Clue on those points: One of the people who helped develop the system after passage of GCA '68 worked for the Walther importer. Walther, of course, had a loaded chamber indicator, double action, an outside hammer, etc., so those got high points.

Even though the system forced the development of the PPK/s, it ended up banning a lot of other good pistols.

Jim

w_houle · 12-30-2009, 08:18 PM

No longer an issue with Diamondback making that .380 like they do

and to think if it weren't for the GCA '68 we wouldn't have
Jennings et al
Not sure about Hi Point
Cobra Arms et al
and all those ones that people love to hate

Heavy D · 01-06-2010, 01:51 PM

Hopefully this won't be an issue much longer with Glock producing frames in Smyrna, GA now and only importing slides.

LurpyGeek · 01-06-2010, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes

A pistol must reach 75 points in order to be eligible for importation.

Length: for each 1/4" over 6" =1

Forged steel frame =15

Forged HTS alloy frame =20

Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.)=1

.22 short and .25 auto = 0

.22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto=3

9mm parabellum and over=10

Locked breech mechanism=5

Loaded chamber indicator=5

Grip safety=3

Magazine safety=5

Firing pin block or lock=10

External hammer=2

Double action=10

Drift adjustable target sight=5

Click adjustable target sight=10

Target grips=5

Target trigger=2

Also, if the frame is manufactured on a Thursday, it is worth triple the points. During the "lightning round" (January through Belgium), all points are multiplied by the magazine circumference.

As long as you know that, all firearms laws should make sense.

graehaven · 09-15-2010, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LurpyGeek

Also, if the frame is manufactured on a Thursday, it is worth triple the points. During the "lightning round" (January through Belgium), all points are multiplied by the magazine circumference.

As long as you know that, all firearms laws should make sense.

LOL, priceless.

Photoguy309 · 09-16-2010, 02:24 AM

That was good information followed by a good laugh.

gendoikari87 · 09-16-2010, 05:35 AM

I'd really Like to say those are some of the craziest laws I've ever seen.... but I live in america....

hogger129 · 09-16-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45nut

Why is the Glock 28 illegal in the US? I don't really want a .380 but WTH is the answer to this question?

As previously mentioned, it does not meet enough BATF points to be legal for importation into the United States. Like the Walther PPK.

johnlives4christ · 09-16-2010, 06:44 PM

i guess the gubberment dont think we need guns othern sporting guns,.

12-30-2009, 09:02 AM	#1
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Glock 28 Illegal? Why is the Glock 28 illegal in the US? I don't really want a .380 but WTH is the answer to this question? __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO* -->

12-30-2009, 01:49 PM	#2
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,753	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? Although they are not marketed in North America, except to law enforcement agencies, because they lack sufficient BATF import points, GLOCK makes two pistols for .380 Auto, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28. These pistols were developed for those countries that forbid the civilian possession of a handgun chambered in a common military caliber.

12-30-2009, 02:42 PM	#3
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? Can you explain the import points a little? __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

12-30-2009, 04:11 PM	#4
cakes V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Maine Posts: 230	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? A pistol must reach 75 points in order to be eligible for importation. Length: for each 1/4" over 6" =1 Forged steel frame =15 Forged HTS alloy frame =20 Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.)=1 .22 short and .25 auto = 0 .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto=3 9mm parabellum and over=10 Locked breech mechanism=5 Loaded chamber indicator=5 Grip safety=3 Magazine safety=5 Firing pin block or lock=10 External hammer=2 Double action=10 Drift adjustable target sight=5 Click adjustable target sight=10 Target grips=5 Target trigger=2 __________________ If at first you don't succeed, shoot, shoot again.

12-30-2009, 04:18 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? Clue on those points: One of the people who helped develop the system after passage of GCA '68 worked for the Walther importer. Walther, of course, had a loaded chamber indicator, double action, an outside hammer, etc., so those got high points. Even though the system forced the development of the PPK/s, it ended up banning a lot of other good pistols. Jim

12-30-2009, 08:18 PM	#6
w_houle Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lincolnville, KS Posts: 19	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? No longer an issue with Diamondback making that .380 like they do and to think if it weren't for the GCA '68 we wouldn't have Jennings et al Not sure about Hi Point Cobra Arms et al and all those ones that people love to hate

01-06-2010, 01:51 PM	#7
Heavy D Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? Hopefully this won't be an issue much longer with Glock producing frames in Smyrna, GA now and only importing slides.

09-16-2010, 02:24 AM	#10
Photoguy309 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? That was good information followed by a good laugh.

09-16-2010, 05:35 AM	#11
gendoikari87 Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 361	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? I'd really Like to say those are some of the craziest laws I've ever seen.... but I live in america....

09-16-2010, 06:44 PM	#13
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: Glock 28 Illegal? i guess the gubberment dont think we need guns othern sporting guns,.