Need Help Identifying a Derringer - The Firearms Forum

syndeo22 · 01-22-2010, 03:11 PM

I am doing some research on a Derringer that I recently inherited from my Grandfather. No brand, only serial number under barrel "7408" which appears twice - see pic. It also appears to be all one piece - barrel does not break, swivel, or screw on/off like others I have seen. No idea how it could be loaded.

I think it may be an Iver Johnson, but want opinions on make, model, year and value. Anything else you know about it or where to go for more info would be appreciated.

Thx!

hrf · 01-22-2010, 04:09 PM

It's a Remington-Elliot, .41rf, made ca 1867-1888. Should be marked on barrel with Remington address and 1867 patent date, but maybe polished off of yours. Flayderman lists value for Good condition as $675 but if it's been polished and/or refinished would be less.

The hammer also serves as the breechblock, like the Flobert rifles:

http://www.american-firearms.com/ame...ent/68,292.jpg

syndeo22 · 01-22-2010, 11:33 PM

Dear hrf-

Thanks so much! I just noticed the address inscription on top of barrel for first time about 30 minutes before checking my initial post. It was small and I just overlooked it. Was coming back here to put the inscription on to help with identification but found your response instead. For posterity and to help others in the future, the inscription is:

REMINGTONS.ILION.N.Y.
ELLIOT.PAT.AUG.27.1867

Obviously, you nailed this one, and in only 58 minutes after my initial post. You rock!

01-22-2010, 03:11 PM	#1
syndeo22 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2	Need Help Identifying a Derringer I am doing some research on a Derringer that I recently inherited from my Grandfather. No brand, only serial number under barrel "7408" which appears twice - see pic. It also appears to be all one piece - barrel does not break, swivel, or screw on/off like others I have seen. No idea how it could be loaded. I think it may be an Iver Johnson, but want opinions on make, model, year and value. Anything else you know about it or where to go for more info would be appreciated. Thx! Attached Images -->

01-22-2010, 04:09 PM	#2
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,308	Re: Need Help Identifying a Derringer It's a Remington-Elliot, .41rf, made ca 1867-1888. Should be marked on barrel with Remington address and 1867 patent date, but maybe polished off of yours. Flayderman lists value for Good condition as $675 but if it's been polished and/or refinished would be less. The hammer also serves as the breechblock, like the Flobert rifles: http://www.american-firearms.com/ame...ent/68,292.jpg Last edited by hrf; 01-22-2010 at 05:01 PM..

01-22-2010, 11:33 PM	#3
syndeo22 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2	Re: Need Help Identifying a Derringer Dear hrf- Thanks so much! I just noticed the address inscription on top of barrel for first time about 30 minutes before checking my initial post. It was small and I just overlooked it. Was coming back here to put the inscription on to help with identification but found your response instead. For posterity and to help others in the future, the inscription is: REMINGTONS.ILION.N.Y. ELLIOT.PAT.AUG.27.1867 Obviously, you nailed this one, and in only 58 minutes after my initial post. You rock! Attached Images