Disassembly of the Vis wz 1935 - The Firearms Forum

texasvis35 · 01-17-2010, 09:05 PM

Hello. I am new to this forum and looking for some tips/help/advice on the disassembly of the subject pistol.
The pistol would run through a magazine (the one that came with the pistol and/or an after market one found at a gun show) without a hitch and then jam when the next mag full is tried.

I suspect springs and/or the extractor so I ordered these parts from Wolf (their Service Pak II) and Nurmrich.

I have been following instructions on disassemble from www.gunsworld/assembly/radom35 and an article in the November 2009 issue of Guns & Ammo.

I have been unable to get the firing pin retainer plate out or to change out the recoil springs using these instructions.

Also, I have not been able to find instructions on magazine disassembly.

Can anyone offer any additional tips?

Thanks.

Jim K · 01-17-2010, 11:37 PM

I strongly urge you to stop right now.

I have several of those pistols and have never seen one that needed new springs. The recoil spring is captive, and can be freed by driving out the little cross pin, but it was really intended as a permanent assembly. If you insist on removing the spring, wear goggles and rig up a means of keeping the spring captive until you can ease up on it. It is under tension and can propel the back end of the guide with a lot of force.

As to removing the firing pin and spring, I say the same thing and don't recommend it. If you must, the firing pin retainer is not removed like that of the 1911,although some books show it that way. First you need a round end punch and a vise. Clamp the slide in the vise (leather jaws are good, wood OK) then insert the punch into the firing pin hole from the top and tap down on the retainer. When it starts to bind on the firing pin, push the firing pin in and continue tapping on the retainer and pushing the pin in. About half way down, remove the hammer drop lever; it is interlocked with the firing pin retainer and the latter cannot be removed with the drop lever in place without damage to both.

Same advice on spring tension; the firing pin, once released, can fly and injure you or be lost.

So, from the top - don't fix what ain't broke.

If the gun fires one mag fine, the springs are not at fault, something else is.

Jim

texasvis35 · 01-18-2010, 07:19 AM

Jim,
Thanks for the reply.
The pistol doe not fire reliably with either magazine -it is random. Ammo being used is factory Winchester 115 gr. FMJ, some new and some not so new.
The main reason for removing the firing pin is to replace the extractor with the springs being secondary since the gun would be down that far. I do agree that the springs are probably not at issue.

01-17-2010, 09:05 PM	#1
texasvis35 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N. E. OK Posts: 4	Disassembly of the Vis wz 1935 Hello. I am new to this forum and looking for some tips/help/advice on the disassembly of the subject pistol. The pistol would run through a magazine (the one that came with the pistol and/or an after market one found at a gun show) without a hitch and then jam when the next mag full is tried. I suspect springs and/or the extractor so I ordered these parts from Wolf (their Service Pak II) and Nurmrich. I have been following instructions on disassemble from www.gunsworld/assembly/radom35 and an article in the November 2009 issue of Guns & Ammo. I have been unable to get the firing pin retainer plate out or to change out the recoil springs using these instructions. Also, I have not been able to find instructions on magazine disassembly. Can anyone offer any additional tips? Thanks. -->

01-17-2010, 11:37 PM	#2
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Disassembly of the Vis wz 1935 I strongly urge you to stop right now. I have several of those pistols and have never seen one that needed new springs. The recoil spring is captive, and can be freed by driving out the little cross pin, but it was really intended as a permanent assembly. If you insist on removing the spring, wear goggles and rig up a means of keeping the spring captive until you can ease up on it. It is under tension and can propel the back end of the guide with a lot of force. As to removing the firing pin and spring, I say the same thing and don't recommend it. If you must, the firing pin retainer is not removed like that of the 1911,although some books show it that way. First you need a round end punch and a vise. Clamp the slide in the vise (leather jaws are good, wood OK) then insert the punch into the firing pin hole from the top and tap down on the retainer. When it starts to bind on the firing pin, push the firing pin in and continue tapping on the retainer and pushing the pin in. About half way down, remove the hammer drop lever; it is interlocked with the firing pin retainer and the latter cannot be removed with the drop lever in place without damage to both. Same advice on spring tension; the firing pin, once released, can fly and injure you or be lost. So, from the top - don't fix what ain't broke. If the gun fires one mag fine, the springs are not at fault, something else is. Jim

01-18-2010, 07:19 AM	#3
texasvis35 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N. E. OK Posts: 4	Re: Disassembly of the Vis wz 1935 Jim, Thanks for the reply. The pistol doe not fire reliably with either magazine -it is random. Ammo being used is factory Winchester 115 gr. FMJ, some new and some not so new. The main reason for removing the firing pin is to replace the extractor with the springs being secondary since the gun would be down that far. I do agree that the springs are probably not at issue.