Help me choose 9mm

[guns]

great thanks again for the help guys! so are any of the ones i listed getting a good deal on my end? or should i hold out tell i find a better deal?

[CampingJosh]

Originally Posted by guns

great thanks again for the help guys! so are any of the ones i listed getting a good deal on my end? or should i hold out tell i find a better deal?

Yeah, if you have the cash in hand, I'd jump at whichever one of those suits your fancy. They're all fair deals as far as I can tell.

[cobra]

Glock 19!
Cheep;
Solid;
Nice;
Not heavy;
Accurate;

But (plastic)...

[guns4life]

get the sig have owned everything from taurus to ruger to springfield and while I havent had any real problems with any of them the sig is just a more durable more dependable handgun bought a used p6 225 and never looked back sigs motto is TO HELL AND BACK and they live up to it Guns4Life

[guns]

i think i have found one locally, he doesnt have a pic up yet, he wants $650 for it. ive noticed there is 2 types of p229. one with ridges on the bottom front part of the barrel, and one with out. is there any difference other than the looks? what is the P229 DAK dual action only? what does dual action mean?
and how do i know if the one im looking at is DA/SO or just DA?

pics of what im talking about http://www.genitron.com/HandgunDB/DB...=1205&ID3=1202

[Old Guy]

Have you looked at the STI GP6? It isn't the smallest 9mm pistol by any means but it does have some interesting features.

[guns]

why is the p250 so much cheaper than the p229? is the p229 that much better of a gun?

[CampingJosh]

Originally Posted by guns

i think i have found one locally, he doesnt have a pic up yet, he wants $650 for it. ive noticed there is 2 types of p229. one with ridges on the bottom front part of the barrel, and one with out. is there any difference other than the looks? what is the P229 DAK dual action only? what does dual action mean?
and how do i know if the one im looking at is DA/SO or just DA?

pics of what im talking about http://www.genitron.com/HandgunDB/DB...=1205&ID3=1202

Those "ridges" are an integral Picatinny rail. It allows you to attach a light, laser, or other accessory. Without that rail, you cannot attach much to the pistol (should you want to).

The DAK is the double-action only. "Double-action only" means the trigger pull weight will be consistent but heavy (~7 pounds). A DA/SA will be ~10 pounds in DA but down around 4 in SA. It really just depends on what you want.

Originally Posted by guns

why is the p250 so much cheaper than the p229? is the p229 that much better of a gun?

The P250 is modular, so you can buy different frames, barrels, magazines, etc. The same gun can be converted from full size to a compact to a sub compact. They sell it cheaper because the point is to accessorize it. When it's all said and done, you'll likely spend more to get your P250 completely set up.

[mikeg1959]

I have owned 6 different 9mm. Sig 225, Glock 19, Beretta 92, Taurus PT92, Walther P38 and Browning Hi-Power. Of all of these the P38 was the most unreliable, while the Taurus and Beretta have some feed issues with certain bullets. Also Taurus won't tolerate long term exposure to re-loads. The Glock and Sig are both reliable however, I do not like the gripping. The Browning Hi-Power has proved faultless (with any load or bullet style) and with the best grip, as well as superior control for me. The sad part is Brownings are discontinued and hard to find, but not rare or inacessable . When you do find one, they tend to be expensive, 900-1200 bucks. But, as far as I am concerned, well worth the price,,, and the wait!

[guns]

again thanks for all the help, the reason i didn't want this gun in a .40 was i already have a beretta 96 .40 and i liked that the size of the p229 would have way low recoil shooting 9mm rounds.. but i also love the gock 19..

So i have made my decision, since the p229 9mm avereages about $100 more than the .40, i'm just going to get it in a .40 cal. then i'll sell my Beretta 96, and buy the glock 19..

[CampingJosh]

Originally Posted by mikeg1959

Also Taurus won't tolerate long term exposure to re-loads.

Please explain this more. Are you using hot loads? Is it lead bullets? What about your reloads are different than factory ammo?

[40CalJoe]

Glock 19.

Wife just bought a XDm-9mm. She likes it, I have not shot it yet.

[kevinleif37]

brah-i've used sig on the job for 5 years now (if wasnt too busy having to clean it), and one thing ive come to learn about these "to hell and back" guns is that it doesn't get wet in hell...ALL of the sigs ive been around have shown to be top heavy guns that rust faster then an uncoated copper nail in a bucket of salt water...ive been around glocks and seen them abused to the fullest and never having anything major go wrong...plus glocks seem to be cheaper to repair if needed-the parts are everywhere and easy to work on whereas sigs are more expensive (i think its because they're imported and used by the secret service and air marshals-instant $200 mark-up, plus now you can make-believe you're jack bauer!) and require more time and skill to repair...

...from my experience...

[Old Guy]

Have you looked at the Ruger SR9? It looks like a pretty good entry.

[mncarpenter]

Originally Posted by Helix_FR

Just a suggestion out of your 4 choices. CZ P01 or 2075 RAMI (sub compact)

++++1 -you owe it to yourself to check out the P01, and the Rami. A CZ PCR is pretty sweet, especially if you want to carry it. I love my P01. Had a PCR for a bit but chose the P01 over it when I had to liquidate a few things to pay some bills. Sold it to a buddy with the promise I would buy it back from him if he decided to sell it.
http://czcustom.com/CZ-P01-9mm.aspx
http://czcustom.com/CZ-75D-PCR-PolyCoat-9mm.aspx
http://czcustom.com/cz2075bd9.aspx
No I don't work for CZ, I just like mine and think they are seriously overlooked,mainly because CZ doesn't spend much on marketing.

[Deacon_Man]

For me it's the Taurus PT 24/7 Pro DS . This 9mm is the most accurate auto I have ever owned. I used it to get my CCW and I shot a perfect score with it.
Just a thought !

[Rocketman1]

I need help deciding on a 9mm pistol. The gun would be used for home defense and occasional range firing. I own a .38 revolver, but I can not get the proper ammo for it for home defense (don't want to shoot through the neighbors walls). I decided on a 9mm because of the relatively low cost of ammo.

I don't have a very large budget to work with, because my better half keeps track of the finances.

I have narrowed my search down to pistols, the S&W VE9, and the Ruger P95. The only thing negative I have heard about the VE9 is the heavy trigger pull, so I want to hear from people that have actually shot this weapon. I'm use to shooting an old Iver Johnson .38 revolver in double action mode, so I cannot imagine the VE9 being any worse than that.

I haven't heard much about the Ruger P95, good or bad. I like the fact that the mag release and decoocker on the P95 works for both right and left handers, since my wife is left handed. I have handled both of the pistols, and I'm leaning toward the VE9, because the grip feels better in my hand, and the Ruger just feels a little balky to me.

What do you think guys and gals?

Thanks!

[larryg]

I have looked at both the S&W Sigma (in .40) and the Ruger P95 which I purchased. In general the Ruger seems to receive more positive comments then the Sigma series. My primary reason for the Ruger over the S&W is the S&W is DAO and the Ruger is traditional SA/DA so I can relatively safely keep one in the pipe with it de-cocked the 1st shot would be DA then the rest SA.

The Ruger seems to have a long trigger pull in SA mode but the reset is fairly short so it is not a big deal to me and may even be a good idea as I have apparently snagged the hammer before and cocked it while carrying.

[Shooter45]

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=74597

[gdlindy]

I would suggest getting a firearm that your wife can handle pretty easy.
You can buy a gently used Glock 19 for around $400 or even less, comes with a 15 or 19 round magazine, (Been a few years since I taught the 19), they are designed for smaller hands and the internal safety is on the trigger, point and shoot. Magazine release is on the left side.
Other inexpensive and small frame pistols is the EAA compact witness. You can get these for around $350-$375 used.

Ammo:
Depends on the state you live in but you can buy home defense ammunition that is "frangible."

If you practice with the standard 115 grain ball ammo, you will have no issues with the frangible. it is also a "green" ammo. So if you do shoot it at the range their is no lead to worry about.

Like I said, something that fits your wifes hand and she can maneuver. Go to a decent sized gun store and they will let you handle em. If you have a store with an indoor range, you may even be able to test drive your next firearm before buying.

If you do buy used, go through a gun dealer that checks out their weapons (gunsmith on site) before they sell them to the public. www.jgsales.com is a good one online and they can ship to your local FFL. (I do not work for them, I just have bought several good firearms from them).

Either way, what is comfortable and easy to operate is whats important.

FYI: Think, at 2 am, half asleep and I need to reach for the phone and my firearm at the same time, can I do this? How hard to manipulate and control the weapon? Jam issues?

Just my suggestion, good luck and have fun looking for your next firearm.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by gdlindy

I would suggest getting a firearm that your wife can handle pretty easy.
You can buy a gently used Glock 19 for around $400 or even less, comes with a 15 or 19 round magazine, (Been a few years since I taught the 19), they are designed for smaller hands and the internal safety is on the trigger, point and shoot. Magazine release is on the left side.
Other inexpensive and small frame pistols is the EAA compact witness. You can get these for around $350-$375 used.

Ammo:
Depends on the state you live in but you can buy home defense ammunition that is "frangible."

If you practice with the standard 115 grain ball ammo, you will have no issues with the frangible. it is also a "green" ammo. So if you do shoot it at the range their is no lead to worry about.

Like I said, something that fits your wifes hand and she can maneuver. Go to a decent sized gun store and they will let you handle em. If you have a store with an indoor range, you may even be able to test drive your next firearm before buying.

If you do buy used, go through a gun dealer that checks out their weapons (gunsmith on site) before they sell them to the public. www.jgsales.com is a good one online and they can ship to your local FFL. (I do not work for them, I just have bought several good firearms from them).

Either way, what is comfortable and easy to operate is whats important.

FYI: Think, at 2 am, half asleep and I need to reach for the phone and my firearm at the same time, can I do this? How hard to manipulate and control the weapon? Jam issues?

Just my suggestion, good luck and have fun looking for your next firearm.

I agree with this guy. Whatever is comfortable and easiest to operate.

The Glock 26 might be another one if the 19 is too big. The 26 is just the sub-compact one.

[Rocketman1]

Originally Posted by gdlindy

I would suggest getting a firearm that your wife can handle pretty easy.
You can buy a gently used Glock 19 for around $400 or even less, comes with a 15 or 19 round magazine, (Been a few years since I taught the 19), they are designed for smaller hands and the internal safety is on the trigger, point and shoot. Magazine release is on the left side.
Other inexpensive and small frame pistols is the EAA compact witness. You can get these for around $350-$375 used.

FYI: Think, at 2 am, half asleep and I need to reach for the phone and my firearm at the same time, can I do this? How hard to manipulate and control the weapon? Jam issues?

Just my suggestion, good luck and have fun looking for your next firearm.

I fired my brother-in-laws Glock 19 a few weeks ago, and I really liked it compared to all the others we fired that day. My wife says that new is out of the question at $500+, and I have not found a used one in my area. I have looked at the Glock 26, and I didn't like the small grip, so I have not been looking at the subcompacts. (Although the mag extention may work.)

I have never heard of EAA, so I will have to give those a look. Finding a gun that my wife and I both like may be kind of hard, my hands are big and her's are small. (If I get what is comfortable for me, then maybe she will have to get her own gun, and then I end up with two. Ha! Ha!.)

I have ran lots of those 2 am senarios through my head, and that is why I was looking at the S&W VE9. Its a simple gun with no safety to fuble with. I can see myself at 2 am pointing the gun at a bad guy and forgeting that the safety is on. If one were nervous in a breakin situation, that DAO trigger could also prevent an accidental discharge.

Thanks for your input, it is greatly appreciated.

[Rocketman1]

[QUOTE=larryg;605967]I have looked at both the S&W Sigma (in .40) and the Ruger P95 which I purchased. In general the Ruger seems to receive more positive comments then the Sigma series. My primary reason for the Ruger over the S&W is the S&W is DAO and the Ruger is traditional SA/DA QUOTE]

Hi larryg,

Have you ever fired the S&W Sigma (in .40) or 9mm? If so I would like to know what you thought of it.

I wish I could find one at a gun range/store, so I could try it out first. I have heard so many negative comments about the DAO trigger pull that it has me a little worried. I only own one handgun, which is the old IJ .38 that I mentioned, which I always shoot in DA mode. It is a harder and longer trigger than any other handguns that I have fired, but it is the first hand gun I ever fired so I'm very use to it.

[guns]

narrowed it down to..
Glock 19
SIG 2022
SIG sigpro 2009

which would you choose, and why? thanks..

[blackcat_attilio]

Originally Posted by guns

narrowed it down to..
Glock 19
SIG 2022
SIG sigpro 2009

which would you choose, and why? thanks..

Hi! Among the 3 I shot the Glock. It´s a good gun. I´d buy it.