AK vs. AR - Which is more fun?

[CampingJosh]

We've had many threads comparing form, function, reliability, and the relative merits of the cartridges each fires, and I'm not interested in any of that debate. I have an entirely different question.

Which one do you find more fun to shoot?

[old semperfi]

josh,i have been to the range and seen many many people with the ak and its clones.these people do not seem to aim at anything they just spray ammo as fast as they can.i can tell you they seem to enjoy it but many times these same people tend to spray into other peoples targets and dont seem too concerned.the ars will do the same but it seems like the owners are a more aimiable sort.i am not sure what your idea of fun is but enjoy old semperfi

[Big ugly]

I am not a big fan of the AR platform, It to me feels plastic and weak. not to mention the EGO some of these SPROTSMAN seem to have while turning their smug little noses at your your bolt action browning A bolt while they are carressing their AR (EDITED BY TFF STAFF) In all actualieity I dont like the AK either but I enjoy shooting the AK over the AR any day.

[NY Marksman]

Originally Posted by Big ugly

I am not a big fan of the AR platform, It to me feels plastic and weak. not to mention the EGO some of these SPROTSMAN seem to have while turning their smug little noses at your your bolt action browning A bolt while they are carressing their AR. (EDITED BY TFF STAFF) In all actualieity I dont like the AK either but I enjoy shooting the AK over the AR any day.

I've found just the opposite especially from younger AK owners. Most that I've met come accross as cocky arrogant know it alls whose constant mantra is about how reliable their AK's are but they never seen to mention that all the 100 yard targets I see them shooting are all over the target with their smallest groups being anywhere from 5 inches to 12 inches. They seem to revel in the fact that their AK's cost them less then 1/2 what my AR did, of course they forget to mention that thrie AK's are stamped out of sheet metal versus my AR being precision machined. Most just seem to enjoy spraying bullets, wherever they end up isn't as important as the thrill of pulling the trigger and feeling the recoil of "a real combat weapon". They also get really upset at some of the ranges I frequent that have rules only allowing one round to be loaded at a time. You wouldn't believe the crying and whining because they can't load up a full mag and cut loose with a barrage of shots one after another until the mag is empty. I've seen lots of these fantasty foo fighters kicked off the range for not following the rules.

On the other hand I have found that most AR owners tend to be more conservative and confident about their rifles and are more interested in shooting accurately then they are in seeing how many rounds per hour they can send downrange. It seems to me that cheap rifles (like AK's) tend to attract less commited shooters. That doesn't make the AR owners smug by any means, it only tells me that they are more dedicated to their weapons and to the reason we all bought them, to develope the ability to shoot as accurately as possible. If not then why buy any rifle AK or AR.

As far as bolt gun shooters, they are the ones of all of us who should be the most angry of the bunch, after all they have to put up with us semi auto guys flinging spent casings out of our rifles at them.

[Old Grump]

Which one do you have the most ammunition for. Easy answer.

[Big ugly]

I do have more .223 rounds though since I have the Mini 14. I dont know I just am not fond of the Ar as said. And I do know what you are talkin about with the spray and pray genre of AK owners. I dont associate with many of those folks. I will say that the AR's are more accurate, but its the reliability in harsh environments that takes the gets the golden cup for me.

on a lighter note,


Flinging spent caseings. I know what you mean. I have never even considered that. I and to tell you the truth lookin back over the years i can remember a few times where other members at the range had switched sides in between shooting sessions. Now I know why LOL

[JohnBrainard]

Originally Posted by Big ugly

I am not a big fan of the AR platform, It to me feels plastic and weak. not to mention the EGO some of these SPROTSMAN seem to have while turning their smug little noses at your your bolt action browning A bolt while they are carressing their AR (EDITED BY TFF STAFF) In all actualieity I dont like the AK either but I enjoy shooting the AK over the AR any day.

I imagine there are people like that, but I don't believe the whole of the AR owning community can be painted with that brush. Arrogance affects many people. I'm sure there are Browning A-Bolt owners who look down their noses at all manner of folks too.

I love my AR-15 and enjoy shooting it, but I also love my Ruger M77 Mark II in .30-06. I don't look down my nose to anyone shooting anything. I'm just glad they're shooting and not trying to take my guns away from me!

[Big ugly]

I guess my oppinion is based on experiences, I had to deal with some Sportsmen a couple of years back the kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Here I was loading up the Polaris on the trailer after a hunt and these three knuckle heads where pokein fun at me cuz my quad was beat up, my ole dodge truck was beat up and dirty. They werent pokein fun when the Browning came out of the sock and into the gunrack though. Somethin about my .338 makes people take notice. I guess its cuz she so damn pretty. I know some down to earth folks with AR's and they are allright, Its the pompass ones that get under my skin. Plus it seems I just attract (EDITED BY TFF STAFF) no matter where I go.

[Old Grump]

Never trusted shiny new vehicles in the woods/swamp, desert or halfway up a mountain. Made me think they haven't been up there before and how long before I have to pull them out of the ditch, mud or lead them out of the woods with my old skanky looking beast.

[308 at my gate]

I have to say I enjoy shooting my AK more. I think the reason is that the ammo was cheap I do not reload for it so I do not worry about the brass. I also did not pay alot for the rifle to start out with. I did not buy the rifle because of accuracy because I know that it is going to suck compared to my bolt rifles. It is just fun to go out and let it fly once in awhile.

[TTUshooter]

I like both.

[JohnBrainard]

Originally Posted by Big ugly

I guess my oppinion is based on experiences, I had to deal with some Sportsmen a couple of years back the kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Here I was loading up the Polaris on the trailer after a hunt and these three knuckle heads where pokein fun at me cuz my quad was beat up, my ole dodge truck was beat up and dirty. They werent pokein fun when the Browning came out of the sock and into the gunrack though. Somethin about my .338 makes people take notice. I guess its cuz she so damn pretty. I know some down to earth folks with AR's and they are allright, Its the pompass ones that get under my skin. Plus it seems I just attract (EDITED BY TFF STAFF) no matter where I go.

You'd think they'd grow up after a while, right? I assume you use the term sportsmen loosely in describing those people. I can't imagine good sportsmen of any kind poking fun at other sportsmen. It just isn't very sportsman like.

If it's any consolation, your beat up Polaris is much better than my ATV! I can't get anywhere on mine... It's imaginary at the moment!

[JohnBrainard]

Originally Posted by TTUshooter

I like both.

I started liking both when I saw they made a bullpup stock for the AK-47. I might have to get one to do a conversion.

[6x6pinz]

The AK is much more "fun" to shoot for me. You actually feel like you shot a gun unlike the AR which feels soooo much like a rimfire. I do like the AR platform in 308, now there is a fun rifle. I am still on the look out for a SAR 3 AK in of course 223 just for some fun shooting.

[Big ugly]

Originally Posted by JohnBrainard

You'd think they'd grow up after a while, right? I assume you use the term sportsmen loosely in describing those people. I can't imagine good sportsmen of any kind poking fun at other sportsmen. It just isn't very sportsman like.

If it's any consolation, your beat up Polaris is much better than my ATV! I can't get anywhere on mine... It's imaginary at the moment!

Yes I am useing the term loosely. A true sportsman or hunter to me is one that is getting by and who was trained in the art by fathers or grandfathers with the exception to the rule. Not these white collar yuppies that are aout to make a kill cuz they need to feel like a man type hunters. Which is what these two yayhoos where that I was speaking of.

[JohnBrainard]

Originally Posted by Big ugly

Yes I am useing the term loosely. A true sportsman or hunter to me is one that is getting by and who was trained in the art by fathers or grandfathers with the exception to the rule. Not these white collar yuppies that are aout to make a kill cuz they need to feel like a man type hunters. Which is what these two yayhoos where that I was speaking of.

One's societal status has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to enjoy the sport of hunting.

[Agentwil]

I own both rifles and like them for different reasons. It seems that this post has become more about the perceived people who own them and not on what rifle is more fun to shoot. It’s never good to stereotype but I can see were these observations may come from. I carry a full auto M-4 at work and I shoot a perfect qual score with it every time. I think many complaints about the M-4 or 16 are dated to say the least. You don’t have to keep them as clean as the old ones because of design changes and better materials available. I have had one fail me but it was the magazine not the rifle. I have worked at law enforcement academies firing thousands of rounds a day through 50 rifles per class and they are not always maintained as they should and still perform. I find the only flaw with the rifle is the magazines that tend to fail not the rifle. The AK is a fine rifle and has a harder hitting round that I would prefer when the **** hits the fan. For target shooting the AR is great but for shock and awe give me the AK. But I digress. The fun factor has to go to the AK because when your shoot an AK its pure aggression in an awesome package, even the sound of the bolt is awesome. When you squeeze that trigger you feel the power of the round and the inner workings moving. It barfs fire and throws dirt from where the round impacts into the air with massive power. It's fun.

[BETH]

i personally don't know why anyone would want anything other than a rifle or handgun

[Agentwil]

personally don't know why anyone would want anything other than a rifle or handgun

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[308 at my gate]

Hey Agentwil I like your description. It almost sounds addictive. You are right about the AK.

[bamashooter]

i dont have any specific problems with either one. i was in the army for 8yrs. and most of the rifles i was issued functioned fine when they were maintained properly. i reload and target shoot so im more of an accuracy fan than anything so that leaves only the AR. more fun for me becouse its very accurate.

[bigiron1]

AK if its a machinegun, AR if they are semi. No real reason, except the way it feels.

[BETH]

Hey Agentwill i think u should write a book love the way u put things

[jack404]

Fun? ... AK

[6x6pinz]

[QUOTE]i personally don't know why anyone would want anything other than a rifle or handgun/QUOTE]

because they look at me funny when I try to shoot flying ducks with a 308 or a 45acp