AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

JohnBrainard · 02-25-2010, 07:48 AM

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i personally don't know why anyone would want anything other than a rifle or handgun/QUOTE]

because they look at me funny when I try to shoot flying ducks with a 308 or a 45acp

Funniest post I've seen in a long time!

MarkB · 02-25-2010, 08:41 AM

I can see someone saying that if they did not serve in the military.
But since I did, I know the fun of shooting an M16, even though I do not own an AR right now.

Agentwil · 02-25-2010, 10:25 AM

Thanks for the compliment Beth! I want to write a book about my time in the Patrol when I retire. I think the best thing about this forum is we can express our excitement about what we are passionate about, firearms, the outdoors, and freedom.

FTK87 · 02-25-2010, 07:08 PM

I am going to have to go with the AR, I have shot both, and to me, They are both fun but here is where I favor the AR more, ITS MADE IN AMERICA, it is not 70% stamped steel, It is very accurate, and very reliable. I clean mine after every outing and havn't had a jam/FTF/FTE in the 1k rounds I have owned the rifle. I have fun, accuratly puting shots on target, and also have fun throwing 30 rounds downrange as quick as I can pull the trigger.

What I dont like about the AK, is that it has a "cheap" feeling when you hold it and when you shoot at it, in most cases I don't like the looks of them, stamped parts really turn me off of a gun.

Laufer · 02-26-2010, 02:00 AM

Having never owned an AR, but in that caliber only a Mini 14, have just one observation about a WASR's reliability. This is just my impression.

Although my Mini 14 had two misfeeds when I first tried out 40 rounds in the Ruger factory 20-rd. mag, it had no more misfeeds and had neither a 'ftf' nor any other malfunctions after I lubricated the magazine and the rifle. The 30-rd. polymer Promag never had a single misfeed, though loaded to 12 rounds or less (to conserve ammo). My only ammo consisted of 1,300 rounds of Wolf fmj and Silver Bear jhp.

Watched a buddy shoot about 80-100 rds. from his common WASR AK clone.
He had either a single ftf or fail to eject with this limited number of rounds.
But the bad ergonomics are what really turned me off with AK clones. My SKS feels much better to handle (no rough/sharp metal edges), and the recoil is very mild.

deen_ad · 03-26-2010, 12:15 AM

Never shot an AR nor an AK, but I was at the range one day with my 4" model 66, next range there were two young kids with an AK shooting at a pop can. They went through a mag each and the can was still there. I went over and sat down, used the bench and took the can down for them, first shot moved it a little, the second one sent it flying. They packed up and left right after that.

Anyway, as I understand it the AR is much more accurate but not as reliable as an AK. Is that true? Should I not buy an AK and save my money for an AR?

ofitg · 03-26-2010, 01:11 AM

Full-auto AR15s are fun, especially with 22LR conversion units. A brick of Mini-Mags will provide a lot of cheap entertainment.

If you're talking semiauto-only, my vote goes to the AK. A very gutsy rifle..... and the AR15 gets a little annoying with that "boing" sound every time you fire a shot.

ofitg · 03-26-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BETH

i personally don't know why anyone would want anything other than a rifle or handgun

I think the "fun" factor has a lot to do with it....

Smoke · 04-08-2010, 09:16 AM

The AR is very accurate but that is part of the problem, it is too easy.
The AK is not as accurate so it is a lot more fun to try to get it to do the job that the AR does easily.
And another PLUS for the AK, most of them will bump fire.
This is a way to fire the gun fast almost like full auto fire, and it is legal to do, but if you are at a range that has a range officer he will most likely get upset.
It is a very inaccurate way to fire a gun because you start out holding the gun at the right hip, it is best to first attempt this at your local shooting spot not at a supervised range.
With the ammo being so cheep this kind of fire can be a lot of fun to do. If you practice this method you can get good enough to do it from the shoulder.
Here is a video of bump firing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9ST0IjdHo
This is why the AK is much more fun to shoot than the AR!

JLA · 04-08-2010, 04:16 PM

Dang... The polls closed. Ill chime in anyway... Id have to say the AK is more fun to shoot simply because i dont have to go chasing brass to reload. Its sorta like a .22 to me. Just shoot the hell out of it and leave the empties where they lie. Other than that. I love my ARs

jeepix · 04-08-2010, 05:25 PM

I've shot them both and have to agree with some of the other posters that you like them for different reasons. Most AR's are kinda cheap and plastic-y and the AK feels more solid. However, for the most part I've found the AR to be more accurate at least from a consistency standpoint. And, it's like Barbie for men...

AcidFlashGordon · 04-08-2010, 11:52 PM

You can always fire the AK on full auto until the handguards burst into flames.....like this moron:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIO-Ct_VJvM

The final comment is priceless...

"Too hot"

Yeah. No s**t, sherlock.

AmmoSphere · 04-09-2010, 12:04 AM

AR for the accuracy.

JLA · 04-09-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AcidFlashGordon

You can always fire the AK on full auto until the handguards burst into flames.....like this moron:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIO-Ct_VJvM

The final comment is priceless...

"Too hot"

Yeah. No s**t, sherlock.

Thats one of my all time favorite youtube vids. The best statement in the whole vid is when the muzzle flash gets real big and he says "ohhh thats bad, too hot!!!" DUH, the gun being on fire didnt give you a clue. Whatta putz

AcidFlashGordon · 04-09-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

Thats one of my all time favorite youtube vids. The best statement in the whole vid is when the muzzle flash gets real big and he says "ohhh thats bad, too hot!!!" DUH, the gun being on fire didnt give you a clue. Whatta putz

It's too bad the upper guard didn't give way and allow the gas piston to make this dork a Darwin Award winner. We don't need idiots like this making gun owners look bad/stupid.

Whatta putz, indeed.....

Big ugly · 04-10-2010, 02:51 AM

I agree 100% wit ch on this one. However this video does give you a clue as to the ruggedness of the firearm

Smoke · 04-13-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Big ugly

I agree 100% wit ch on this one. However this video does give you a clue as to the ruggedness of the firearm

Yep, you will never find an AR that can stand that kind of punishment.

CampingJosh · 04-13-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke

Yep, you will never find an AR that can stand that kind of punishment.

And you'll rarely find an AR owner dumb enough to try.

Merick The Red · 04-15-2010, 05:40 PM

AK, Hands down. I have owned several various ARs and not a single one has proven itself to be as reliable or easy to use. The two best ARs I have ever owned where by Colt and RRA but even these experienced more malfunctions than my AK.

I love my AK, the ammo is cheap, its always accurate and it always goes BANG! when you tell it too. Its no precision rifle, but its accurate enough for most battlefield applications.

Not to mention you can make one in your friggin basement, talk about simplicity!

WILD CAT · 04-17-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by old semperfi

josh,i have been to the range and seen many many people with the ak and its clones.these people do not seem to aim at anything they just spray ammo as fast as they can.i can tell you they seem to enjoy it but many times these same people tend to spray into other peoples targets and dont seem too concerned.the ars will do the same but it seems like the owners are a more aimiable sort.i am not sure what your idea of fun is but enjoy old semperfi

My adopted country's government is switching from the venerable FAL 7.62 to the AK. Many many years ago, I was recruited by a christian militia, fighting palestinian terrorists. 20 rounds FAL, 30 rounds AK. The piece I was issued had more hits at 400 meters than the AK at 200. You are right. It is not spraying lead; it is hitting that matters.
Every evening we counted the rounds fired and most didn't use the five 20
round magazines assigned.
I forgot to mention the main question. How does the AK qualify compared to the Fal

Merick The Red · 04-17-2010, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILD CAT

My adopted country's government is switching from the venerable FAL 7.62 to the AK. Many many years ago, I was recruited by a christian militia, fighting palestinian terrorists. 20 rounds FAL, 30 rounds AK. The piece I was issued had more hits at 400 meters than the AK at 200. You are right. It is not spraying lead; it is hitting that matters.
Every evening we counted the rounds fired and most didn't use the five 20
round magazines assigned.
I forgot to mention the main question. How does the AK qualify compared to the Fal

The Fal is a fine rifle, I wish I had more experience with one. Im willing to bet that the FAL is a much more accurate weapon. I wouldnt bother putting a scope on an AK, but on an FAL? sure. I would like to pick one up sometime.
As for dependability, I dont think any weapon can replace the AK as being the most reliable weapon.

So it really is a matter of application. If you are hoofing it through mud and muck I would go with an AK, but in an urban setting for example, an FAL or AR might be your best bet.

ofitg · 04-18-2010, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILD CAT

My adopted country's government is switching from the venerable FAL 7.62 to the AK. Many many years ago, I was recruited by a christian militia, fighting palestinian terrorists. 20 rounds FAL, 30 rounds AK. The piece I was issued had more hits at 400 meters than the AK at 200. You are right. It is not spraying lead; it is hitting that matters.
Every evening we counted the rounds fired and most didn't use the five 20
round magazines assigned.
I forgot to mention the main question. How does the AK qualify compared to the Fal

Wild Cat, this is interesting. Which country is replacing the FAL with the AK? Is it the AK47 or the AK74?

BobMcG · 04-18-2010, 09:32 AM

Lets see... When I had my Colt AR-15 SP-1 I had a lot of fun with it.
Then, when I sold it and replaced it with the Colt CAR-15 version I had a lot of fun with it too.
And, after selling that and replacing it with my Rommy AK variant... I have a lot fun with it!!!

wpage · 04-18-2010, 03:40 PM

They are both fun guns...

WILD CAT · 04-18-2010, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ofitg

Wild Cat, this is interesting. Which country is replacing the FAL with the AK? Is it the AK47 or the AK74?

Venezuela, it is the AK 103 in 7.62 cal

View Poll Results: Which do you find more fun to shoot?
AR (and any variants)	12	60.00%
AK (and any variants)	8	40.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

02-25-2010, 08:41 AM	#27
MarkB Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pa. Posts: 39	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? I can see someone saying that if they did not serve in the military. But since I did, I know the fun of shooting an M16, even though I do not own an AR right now.

02-25-2010, 10:25 AM	#28
Agentwil V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 264	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? Thanks for the compliment Beth! I want to write a book about my time in the Patrol when I retire. I think the best thing about this forum is we can express our excitement about what we are passionate about, firearms, the outdoors, and freedom.

02-25-2010, 07:08 PM	#29
FTK87 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chouteau, Oklahoma Posts: 481	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? I am going to have to go with the AR, I have shot both, and to me, They are both fun but here is where I favor the AR more, ITS MADE IN AMERICA, it is not 70% stamped steel, It is very accurate, and very reliable. I clean mine after every outing and havn't had a jam/FTF/FTE in the 1k rounds I have owned the rifle. I have fun, accuratly puting shots on target, and also have fun throwing 30 rounds downrange as quick as I can pull the trigger. What I dont like about the AK, is that it has a "cheap" feeling when you hold it and when you shoot at it, in most cases I don't like the looks of them, stamped parts really turn me off of a gun. __________________ I NEED .22-250 BRASS!!! http://www.OklahomaSportsmen.com

02-26-2010, 02:00 AM	#30
Laufer V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West TN. Posts: 188	Having never owned an AR, but in that caliber only a Mini 14, have just one observation about a WASR's reliability. This is just my impression. Although my Mini 14 had two misfeeds when I first tried out 40 rounds in the Ruger factory 20-rd. mag, it had no more misfeeds and had neither a 'ftf' nor any other malfunctions after I lubricated the magazine and the rifle. The 30-rd. polymer Promag never had a single misfeed, though loaded to 12 rounds or less (to conserve ammo). My only ammo consisted of 1,300 rounds of Wolf fmj and Silver Bear jhp. Watched a buddy shoot about 80-100 rds. from his common WASR AK clone. He had either a single ftf or fail to eject with this limited number of rounds. But the bad ergonomics are what really turned me off with AK clones. My SKS feels much better to handle (no rough/sharp metal edges), and the recoil is very mild. Last edited by Laufer; 02-26-2010 at 02:05 AM..

03-26-2010, 12:15 AM	#31
deen_ad Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 37	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? Never shot an AR nor an AK, but I was at the range one day with my 4" model 66, next range there were two young kids with an AK shooting at a pop can. They went through a mag each and the can was still there. I went over and sat down, used the bench and took the can down for them, first shot moved it a little, the second one sent it flying. They packed up and left right after that. Anyway, as I understand it the AR is much more accurate but not as reliable as an AK. Is that true? Should I not buy an AK and save my money for an AR? __________________ 8 US Presidents have been NRA members 80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!! Deen NRA Benefactor/Recruiter Washington Arms Collector member Arms Collectors of South West Washington member

03-26-2010, 01:11 AM	#32
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? Full-auto AR15s are fun, especially with 22LR conversion units. A brick of Mini-Mags will provide a lot of cheap entertainment. If you're talking semiauto-only, my vote goes to the AK. A very gutsy rifle..... and the AR15 gets a little annoying with that "boing" sound every time you fire a shot.

04-08-2010, 09:16 AM	#34
Smoke V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: S.W. Indiana Posts: 85	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? The AR is very accurate but that is part of the problem, it is too easy. The AK is not as accurate so it is a lot more fun to try to get it to do the job that the AR does easily. And another PLUS for the AK, most of them will bump fire. This is a way to fire the gun fast almost like full auto fire, and it is legal to do, but if you are at a range that has a range officer he will most likely get upset. It is a very inaccurate way to fire a gun because you start out holding the gun at the right hip, it is best to first attempt this at your local shooting spot not at a supervised range. With the ammo being so cheep this kind of fire can be a lot of fun to do. If you practice this method you can get good enough to do it from the shoulder. Here is a video of bump firing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9ST0IjdHo This is why the AK is much more fun to shoot than the AR!

04-08-2010, 04:16 PM	#35
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? Dang... The polls closed. Ill chime in anyway... Id have to say the AK is more fun to shoot simply because i dont have to go chasing brass to reload. Its sorta like a .22 to me. Just shoot the hell out of it and leave the empties where they lie. Other than that. I love my ARs __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

04-08-2010, 05:25 PM	#36
jeepix Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 43	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? I've shot them both and have to agree with some of the other posters that you like them for different reasons. Most AR's are kinda cheap and plastic-y and the AK feels more solid. However, for the most part I've found the AR to be more accurate at least from a consistency standpoint. And, it's like Barbie for men...

04-08-2010, 11:52 PM	#37
AcidFlashGordon Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 41	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? You can always fire the AK on full auto until the handguards burst into flames.....like this moron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIO-Ct_VJvM The final comment is priceless... "Too hot" Yeah. No st, sherlock. __________________ "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO- HOO what a ride!" Some people are like Slinkies -- not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs. I'm old, I'm angry and I vote**!

04-09-2010, 12:04 AM	#38
AmmoSphere Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 7	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? AR for the accuracy. __________________ http://ammosphere.com/ -Profitable Online Ammunition Company for Sale.

04-10-2010, 02:51 AM	#41
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? I agree 100% wit ch on this one. However this video does give you a clue as to the ruggedness of the firearm __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

04-15-2010, 05:40 PM	#44
Merick The Red Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? AK, Hands down. I have owned several various ARs and not a single one has proven itself to be as reliable or easy to use. The two best ARs I have ever owned where by Colt and RRA but even these experienced more malfunctions than my AK. I love my AK, the ammo is cheap, its always accurate and it always goes BANG! when you tell it too. Its no precision rifle, but its accurate enough for most battlefield applications. Not to mention you can make one in your friggin basement, talk about simplicity!

04-18-2010, 09:32 AM	#48
BobMcG Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Twilight Zone. Contributor Posts: 1,119	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? Lets see... When I had my Colt AR-15 SP-1 I had a lot of fun with it. Then, when I sold it and replaced it with the Colt CAR-15 version I had a lot of fun with it too. And, after selling that and replacing it with my Rommy AK variant... I have a lot fun with it!!!

04-18-2010, 03:40 PM	#49
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: AK vs. AR - Which is more fun? They are both fun guns... __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W