Virginia Loses Again - The Firearms Forum

Dexter · 03-02-2010, 07:02 AM

Just goes to show that the antis still will find a way

Senate Democrats set up panel to quash gun bills
AP
Published: March 2, 2010
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A number of House of Delegates bills that would make it easier to purchase, carry and use guns have been routed to a newly created Senate subcommittee loaded with legislators opposed to expanding gun rights.

Sen. Henry L. Marsh III, D-Richmond, chairman of the Democrat-controlled Senate Courts of Justice Committee, announced the shift.

The new panel appears to be an attempt to defeat firearms legislation that would stand a better chance in the full committee, on which several rural Democrats have voted with Republicans in the past to expand gun rights.

Among House legislation likely to be taken up by the new subcommittee is House Bill 49, which seeks to repeal the state law limiting handgun purchases to one a month. Gov. Bob McDonnell has indicated he would sign the bill into law if it reaches his desk.

The subcommittee also could hear House Bill 1070, a measure to allow guns to be carried into emergency shelters; and House Bill 69, a measure that would exempt from federal law guns and ammunition made and kept in Virginia.

Marsh appointed Sen. Linda T. “Toddy” Puller, D-Fairfax, chairwoman of the unnamed subcommittee, which also includes Democratic Sens. Janet D. Howell of Fairfax County, L. Louise Lucas of Norfolk, and Marsh.

Frederick M. Quayle of Chesapeake, a centrist Republican, rounds out the subcommittee, which is expected to meet Thursday.

Marsh said the subcommittee will be authorized to give bills a full hearing. As for bills that are not recommended for approval, he said: “It won’t be necessary for them to come before the full committee.“

The process is similar to that employed by the Republican-controlled House of Delegates to derail legislation the majority party does not favor.

Gun-rights advocate Philip Van Cleave of the Virginia Citizens Defense League labeled the panel a “death-star committee” and called Marsh a “gun hater.“

Given the positions of a majority of the committee members, it appears unlikely that the more-contentious gun bills will survive.

“My district overwhelmingly supports reasonable gun-control measures,“ Howell said. “And one-gun-a-month is very popular in the 32nd District.“

“I would agree with that,“ Puller said. “And I see no reason that we need to go back and try to be the gun-running state that we were before that bill passed.“

Republicans on the full Courts of Justice Committee said they still should have a say on all the bills in subcommittee.

“We have, so far, not been killing bills in subcommittee in Senate Courts,“ said Sen. Mark D. Obenshain, R-Harrisonburg. “I see no reason why those bills should be singled out for different treatment from every other bill that we’ve handled during the session. I hope they won’t be.“

wpage · 03-02-2010, 09:06 AM

Sign of the times.

Terry_P · 03-02-2010, 10:39 AM

How can you place the issue on the ballot with a citizen initiative? There must be a way in VA and time is short for 2010. If there isn't then work to throw the bums out in the next election.

45nut · 03-02-2010, 10:46 AM

Throw the bums out!!!!!

03-02-2010, 07:02 AM	#1
Dexter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 59	Virginia Loses Again Just goes to show that the antis still will find a way Senate Democrats set up panel to quash gun bills AP Published: March 2, 2010 » 0 Comments \| Post a Comment A number of House of Delegates bills that would make it easier to purchase, carry and use guns have been routed to a newly created Senate subcommittee loaded with legislators opposed to expanding gun rights. Sen. Henry L. Marsh III, D-Richmond, chairman of the Democrat-controlled Senate Courts of Justice Committee, announced the shift. The new panel appears to be an attempt to defeat firearms legislation that would stand a better chance in the full committee, on which several rural Democrats have voted with Republicans in the past to expand gun rights. Among House legislation likely to be taken up by the new subcommittee is House Bill 49, which seeks to repeal the state law limiting handgun purchases to one a month. Gov. Bob McDonnell has indicated he would sign the bill into law if it reaches his desk. The subcommittee also could hear House Bill 1070, a measure to allow guns to be carried into emergency shelters; and House Bill 69, a measure that would exempt from federal law guns and ammunition made and kept in Virginia. Marsh appointed Sen. Linda T. “Toddy” Puller, D-Fairfax, chairwoman of the unnamed subcommittee, which also includes Democratic Sens. Janet D. Howell of Fairfax County, L. Louise Lucas of Norfolk, and Marsh. Frederick M. Quayle of Chesapeake, a centrist Republican, rounds out the subcommittee, which is expected to meet Thursday. Marsh said the subcommittee will be authorized to give bills a full hearing. As for bills that are not recommended for approval, he said: “It won’t be necessary for them to come before the full committee.“ The process is similar to that employed by the Republican-controlled House of Delegates to derail legislation the majority party does not favor. Gun-rights advocate Philip Van Cleave of the Virginia Citizens Defense League labeled the panel a “death-star committee” and called Marsh a “gun hater.“ Given the positions of a majority of the committee members, it appears unlikely that the more-contentious gun bills will survive. “My district overwhelmingly supports reasonable gun-control measures,“ Howell said. “And one-gun-a-month is very popular in the 32nd District.“ “I would agree with that,“ Puller said. “And I see no reason that we need to go back and try to be the gun-running state that we were before that bill passed.“ Republicans on the full Courts of Justice Committee said they still should have a say on all the bills in subcommittee. “We have, so far, not been killing bills in subcommittee in Senate Courts,“ said Sen. Mark D. Obenshain, R-Harrisonburg. “I see no reason why those bills should be singled out for different treatment from every other bill that we’ve handled during the session. I hope they won’t be.“ -->

03-02-2010, 09:06 AM	#2
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: Virginia Loses Again Sign of the times. __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W

03-02-2010, 10:39 AM	#3
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: Virginia Loses Again How can you place the issue on the ballot with a citizen initiative? There must be a way in VA and time is short for 2010. If there isn't then work to throw the bums out in the next election. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

03-02-2010, 10:46 AM	#4
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,433	Re: Virginia Loses Again Throw the bums out!!!!! __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*