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al45lc · 09-12-2012, 09:01 PM

I load a 335 gr. G.C. (Lyman 452651BV) to 1223 fps with 21 grs. H-110 (1112 ft.lbs. mv) in my Blackhawk, that's not even max.
That load has taken Elk at 75 yds with no problem.
Although heavy in recoil, the Bisley Blackhawk handles it well and it's not uncomfortable to shoot dozens of rounds.
That same load does 1560 fps out of my Marlin 1894, and is highly accurate in both guns.
I see no reason for a more powerful cartridge, but I'm part and partial to the .45LC (Ya couldn't tell?) so that has some bearing.

Alpo · 09-12-2012, 09:17 PM

I've shot a Freedom Arms and I own a Super Redhawk, and of the two I preferred the Ruger.

That may be because the Freedom Arms I shot was a 4 3/4 barrel, and the Ruger weighs about a pound more than it did.

When fighting recoil, weight does help.

jack404 · 09-12-2012, 09:20 PM

al45lc nice eh ...

LDJ · 09-13-2012, 09:26 AM

I shoot a lot of Ruger only 45's (250 gr. HP XTP that I load) with my Ruger Redhawk 454. (At 50 Yards) They are a good easy round with a little kick. I shoot at least a box (20) of Hornady 240 gr HP XTP when I go to the range. (At 100 Yards) They are not that bad either. I'm 66 years old and If it is not that bad for me anybody who wants should be able to handle it. I have an Elite scope that is made for 454's and I have had no problems. I had never had a Pistol with a scope that I can shoot at a distance and hit any thing. So I am having a great time with mine. It's all in what you want to shoot. Each his own.

RandyP · 09-13-2012, 09:45 AM

"what is the difference between .45 and .454 casull?"

Made me think of the old joke about "Why is a hotel saloon like an elephant's fart?"

A hotel saloon is a 'bar room' and an elephant's fart is a 'BAROOM!".

judgecrater · 10-05-2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LDJ

After reading this post I tried loading one of my 454's in my Judge. It will not go in enough to turn the cylinder. I believe you have to have a Raging Bull that is made to shoot the 454 to load a 454. The 410 goes in fine but not the 454. I did not want one of my Grand Kids getting confused and loading one in the wrong gun so I tried it.

I was pretty sure they would design the chambers such that the Casull would not chamber unless the gun was designed to take it.

Maine04657 · 10-05-2012, 02:08 PM

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=114436

Texxut · 10-05-2012, 10:29 PM

Bigbore's advice, to shoot one before you buy one, is good advice for other guns and cartridges also. I used to think getting a 50BMG was a great idea, till I shot one. It was fun but I was happy to get that idea out of my system and now I can use that money for other things.

09-12-2012, 09:01 PM	#26
al45lc Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: colorful colorado Posts: 1,022	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? I load a 335 gr. G.C. (Lyman 452651BV) to 1223 fps with 21 grs. H-110 (1112 ft.lbs. mv) in my Blackhawk, that's not even max. That load has taken Elk at 75 yds with no problem. Although heavy in recoil, the Bisley Blackhawk handles it well and it's not uncomfortable to shoot dozens of rounds. That same load does 1560 fps out of my Marlin 1894, and is highly accurate in both guns. I see no reason for a more powerful cartridge, but I'm part and partial to the .45LC (Ya couldn't tell?) so that has some bearing. Attached Images __________________ You are what you do, when it counts.

09-12-2012, 09:17 PM	#27
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? I've shot a Freedom Arms and I own a Super Redhawk, and of the two I preferred the Ruger. That may be because the Freedom Arms I shot was a 4 3/4 barrel, and the Ruger weighs about a pound more than it did. When fighting recoil, weight does help. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

09-12-2012, 09:20 PM	#28
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? al45lc nice eh ...

09-13-2012, 09:26 AM	#29
LDJ V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oklahoma. USA Posts: 78	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? I shoot a lot of Ruger only 45's (250 gr. HP XTP that I load) with my Ruger Redhawk 454. (At 50 Yards) They are a good easy round with a little kick. I shoot at least a box (20) of Hornady 240 gr HP XTP when I go to the range. (At 100 Yards) They are not that bad either. I'm 66 years old and If it is not that bad for me anybody who wants should be able to handle it. I have an Elite scope that is made for 454's and I have had no problems. I had never had a Pistol with a scope that I can shoot at a distance and hit any thing. So I am having a great time with mine. It's all in what you want to shoot. Each his own. Last edited by LDJ; 09-13-2012 at 02:43 PM..

09-13-2012, 09:45 AM	#30
RandyP V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 439	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? "what is the difference between .45 and .454 casull?" Made me think of the old joke about "Why is a hotel saloon like an elephant's fart?" A hotel saloon is a 'bar room' and an elephant's fart is a 'BAROOM!". __________________ Lee Anniversary and Lee Classic 4-Hole Turret, presently reloading .380, 7.62 Nagant (32-20), 9mm and 45ACP

10-05-2012, 02:08 PM	#32
Maine04657 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 328	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=114436

10-05-2012, 10:29 PM	#33
Texxut V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 267	Re: what the difference between .45 and .454 casull? Bigbore's advice, to shoot one before you buy one, is good advice for other guns and cartridges also. I used to think getting a 50BMG was a great idea, till I shot one. It was fun but I was happy to get that idea out of my system and now I can use that money for other things.