New rifle at the range today - The Firearms Forum

todd51 · 03-09-2010, 07:08 PM

A friend brought his new never fired before Winchester Wildcat Target .22LR to the range today. It is topped by an equally new BSA Sweet 22 3x9 scope. Surprising everyone it took less than six round to get a 50yd zero. He was firing Winchester SuperX 40gr. high velocity ammo. We were shooting at a standard 50' pistol target placed at the 50yd line and the rifle consistently kept all rounds in the 10 ring with better than half in the X ring.

This the Russian made rifle Winchester is marketing. All five of us took a turn and no one had any problems or complaints. The workmanship seems right in line for a $299.00 rifle. Looks good shoots great and functioned flawlessly.

The scope is a discontinued model purchased for $49.00 and no one had a complaint with it either.

Consensus was that this is a good little rifle and scope combo and the only negative expressed was that it is Russian made.

BETH · 03-09-2010, 07:17 PM

looks nice never saw a shooting rest like that nice

todd51 · 03-09-2010, 07:32 PM

That rest is a MCM all plastic and around $50.00. So far it is working out fine.

red14 · 03-09-2010, 08:32 PM

Great range reports Todd. You take good pictures too. It's a pleasure having you here on the forum.

accident · 03-10-2010, 12:20 AM

I've been thinking about one of those rifles also.nice to hear good reports on it.How did the trigger feel?

Old Grump · 03-10-2010, 12:46 AM

Ah yes, nothing like that combination of new gun smell and its first target. I've heard from others that was a nice shooting little gun and you just confirmed it.

The_Rifleman · 03-10-2010, 01:30 AM

I like the look of it; no frills, just a nice accurate rifle.

graehaven · 03-10-2010, 07:25 AM

Nice find. Is it a quality scope as scopes go?

todd51 · 03-10-2010, 03:43 PM

Quality? Don't know how to answer that one. Is it like Leopold, a Niko, a Burris? No. But this scope was purchased new for less than $50. Does it seem better than the Tasco I have? Yes but that is not a knock on the Tasco. There were three rifles all rimfires there that day and they all had different BSA scopes and no one had a negative thing to say about any of them. I guess I would have to say yes it is a quality $50.00 scope. Would I buy another one? Most definitely yes if my need could be satisfied in that price range.

errolc · 03-16-2010, 04:35 AM

Hi Todd, what would you rate it against...how would it compare to a CZ452 (seems to be the standard which 22LR's are measured)

todd51 · 03-16-2010, 10:03 AM

errolc,
I don't own either of those rifles so my opinion is only from observation of those owned by friends. The Wildcat is not in the same league as the CZ. I think the CZ is a much better rifle but it cost a couple hundred more. The Wildcat is more in the Savage field and that is not a bad place to be. To my eye it is better looking than the Savages but so far it is very competitive accuracy wise with the Savage. In the $300.00 braket I think it deserves real consideration.

Has nothing to do with the quality of the firearm but have this hang up with foreign made guns mascarading under old US lables. But I am going to have to get over it as it is so common now a days. Still gripes me that my Dodge and Mercury were made in Canada. But I am an old fart.

Zane71464 · 03-16-2010, 10:33 AM

That's a nice rifle and a nice set up!
And the BSA scopes, I have two of them.
One is a straight 3x9 and the other is a 4-16x40mm, and I havent had a problem with eaither of them. The bigger one I have mounted on a 7mm Mag and it's been on there for years and it's still as accurate as the day I sighted it in.
The 3-9x40mm I had on my Ruger 77/22 before putting a 3-9x32mm Center Point on it (illuminated recticle) and that scope was $54 and also it an AWESOME .22 scope!
I also bought a Center Point 4-16x40mm with illuminated rectical for the same price as a Bushnell, sept the CP came with rings and flip open scope covers.

But that it a nice looking gun there...have to check one of those out after your post.

big steve · 03-18-2010, 03:54 PM

i like the look of that rifle

big steve · 03-18-2010, 03:54 PM

and yah that is a really cool shooting rest

big steve · 03-18-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by todd51

A friend brought his new never fired before Winchester Wildcat Target .22LR to the range today. It is topped by an equally new BSA Sweet 22 3x9 scope. Surprising everyone it took less than six round to get a 50yd zero. He was firing Winchester SuperX 40gr. high velocity ammo. We were shooting at a standard 50' pistol target placed at the 50yd line and the rifle consistently kept all rounds in the 10 ring with better than half in the X ring.

This the Russian made rifle Winchester is marketing. All five of us took a turn and no one had any problems or complaints. The workmanship seems right in line for a $299.00 rifle. Looks good shoots great and functioned flawlessly.

The scope is a discontinued model purchased for $49.00 and no one had a complaint with it either.

Consensus was that this is a good little rifle and scope combo and the only negative expressed was that it is Russian made.

What kind of scope is on that I like the looks of that??

todd51 · 03-18-2010, 06:48 PM

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What kind of scope is on that I like the looks of that??

Steve it is a BSA Sweet 22 3-9x40 AO with the three turrets for the 36,38,&40gr. bullets. I am pretty sure he purchased it at Gander Mt. and paid less than $50. I have one on a 10/22 that is also a BSA Sweet 22 6-18x40 AO and it has the same three turrets also purchased for less than $50 at Natchez Shooter's Supply. Give me some more time playing with it but right now I am thinking those three turrets are a sales gimmick. The ballistic path for the first 100yds. is pretty similar in those three weights and I am finding more difference in ammo manufacture than bullet weight. I am sure they may be more valuable as you would stretch the range beyond 100yds. Just haven't messed with it enough yet to know. Weather is improving though.

big steve · 03-18-2010, 07:04 PM

alright thanks. let me know how that goes?

03-09-2010, 07:08 PM	#1
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,574	New rifle at the range today A friend brought his new never fired before Winchester Wildcat Target .22LR to the range today. It is topped by an equally new BSA Sweet 22 3x9 scope. Surprising everyone it took less than six round to get a 50yd zero. He was firing Winchester SuperX 40gr. high velocity ammo. We were shooting at a standard 50' pistol target placed at the 50yd line and the rifle consistently kept all rounds in the 10 ring with better than half in the X ring. This the Russian made rifle Winchester is marketing. All five of us took a turn and no one had any problems or complaints. The workmanship seems right in line for a $299.00 rifle. Looks good shoots great and functioned flawlessly. The scope is a discontinued model purchased for $49.00 and no one had a complaint with it either. Consensus was that this is a good little rifle and scope combo and the only negative expressed was that it is Russian made. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member --> Last edited by todd51; 04-23-2013 at 08:03 PM..

03-09-2010, 07:17 PM	#2
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,676	Re: New rifle at the range today looks nice never saw a shooting rest like that nice

03-09-2010, 07:32 PM	#3
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,574	Re: New rifle at the range today That rest is a MCM all plastic and around $50.00. So far it is working out fine. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

03-09-2010, 08:32 PM	#4
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,914	Re: New rifle at the range today Great range reports Todd. You take good pictures too. It's a pleasure having you here on the forum. __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

03-10-2010, 12:20 AM	#5
accident V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: middle GA Posts: 364	Re: New rifle at the range today I've been thinking about one of those rifles also.nice to hear good reports on it.How did the trigger feel? __________________ "The strongest reason for the people to retain the Right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." Thomas Jefferson

03-10-2010, 12:46 AM	#6
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,291	Re: New rifle at the range today Ah yes, nothing like that combination of new gun smell and its first target. I've heard from others that was a nice shooting little gun and you just confirmed it. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

03-10-2010, 01:30 AM	#7
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: New rifle at the range today I like the look of it; no frills, just a nice accurate rifle. __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.

03-10-2010, 07:25 AM	#8
graehaven Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,853	Re: New rifle at the range today Nice find. Is it a quality scope as scopes go? __________________ The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson RESISTANCE IS FEUDAL... PREPARE TO SERVE. Last edited by graehaven; 03-10-2010 at 07:26 AM..

03-10-2010, 03:43 PM	#9
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,574	Re: New rifle at the range today Quality? Don't know how to answer that one. Is it like Leopold, a Niko, a Burris? No. But this scope was purchased new for less than $50. Does it seem better than the Tasco I have? Yes but that is not a knock on the Tasco. There were three rifles all rimfires there that day and they all had different BSA scopes and no one had a negative thing to say about any of them. I guess I would have to say yes it is a quality $50.00 scope. Would I buy another one? Most definitely yes if my need could be satisfied in that price range. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

03-16-2010, 04:35 AM	#10
errolc Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Palmerston nth NZ Posts: 22	Re: New rifle at the range today Hi Todd, what would you rate it against...how would it compare to a CZ452 (seems to be the standard which 22LR's are measured)

03-16-2010, 10:03 AM	#11
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,574	Re: New rifle at the range today errolc, I don't own either of those rifles so my opinion is only from observation of those owned by friends. The Wildcat is not in the same league as the CZ. I think the CZ is a much better rifle but it cost a couple hundred more. The Wildcat is more in the Savage field and that is not a bad place to be. To my eye it is better looking than the Savages but so far it is very competitive accuracy wise with the Savage. In the $300.00 braket I think it deserves real consideration. Has nothing to do with the quality of the firearm but have this hang up with foreign made guns mascarading under old US lables. But I am going to have to get over it as it is so common now a days. Still gripes me that my Dodge and Mercury were made in Canada. But I am an old fart. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

03-16-2010, 10:33 AM	#12
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,371	Re: New rifle at the range today That's a nice rifle and a nice set up! And the BSA scopes, I have two of them. One is a straight 3x9 and the other is a 4-16x40mm, and I havent had a problem with eaither of them. The bigger one I have mounted on a 7mm Mag and it's been on there for years and it's still as accurate as the day I sighted it in. The 3-9x40mm I had on my Ruger 77/22 before putting a 3-9x32mm Center Point on it (illuminated recticle) and that scope was $54 and also it an AWESOME .22 scope! I also bought a Center Point 4-16x40mm with illuminated rectical for the same price as a Bushnell, sept the CP came with rings and flip open scope covers. But that it a nice looking gun there...have to check one of those out after your post. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

03-18-2010, 03:54 PM	#13
big steve Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 622	Re: New rifle at the range today i like the look of that rifle __________________ I HAVE GIVEN YOU A REPUBLC IF YOU CAN KEEP IT "Benjamin Franklin"

03-18-2010, 03:54 PM	#14
big steve Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 622	Re: New rifle at the range today and yah that is a really cool shooting rest __________________ I HAVE GIVEN YOU A REPUBLC IF YOU CAN KEEP IT "Benjamin Franklin"

03-18-2010, 07:04 PM	#17
big steve Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 622	Re: New rifle at the range today alright thanks. let me know how that goes? __________________ I HAVE GIVEN YOU A REPUBLC IF YOU CAN KEEP IT "Benjamin Franklin"