Ruger 10/22 Reliability - The Firearms Forum

E-Rez · 03-29-2010, 06:26 PM

I've been having some problems with my 10/22...The gun fails to fire (sometimes have to manually cycle up to four rounds to get it to fire), and occasionally doesn't fully eject the spent casing (gets pinched in the action). Is this normal on these fun little boom sticks?

Helix_FR · 03-29-2010, 07:36 PM

no not common at all. How clean is it. Action and all, not just the barrel. The 10/22 is one of the most reliable 22 semi autos on the market. I have about 50K rounds through mine. Only time it ever runs into problems is when it needs a complete strip and cleaning.

E-Rez · 03-29-2010, 07:41 PM

The thing is spotless...I'm very picky when it comes to cleaning guns. No gun ever goes more than a couple shooting sessions without a complete cleaning. The only thing I can think is maybe there's too much left-over oil in it.

old semperfi · 03-29-2010, 07:55 PM

numerous questions to ask,have you used a different mag and had same results,when you say ftf is there a dent is rim of case that looks indented enough to have fired,have you tried different ammo such as mini mags,etc,is the ftf on first round or anywhere during empting of mag.need more info to give you any idea how to fix old semperfi

E-Rez · 03-29-2010, 08:31 PM

Just have the one magazine that came with the firearm. Yes, there is a dent in the rim of the case during a failure to fire (the same round will then fire through my other 22). It will fail to fire randomly throughout the magazine (and sometimes it will go through the entire mag without a hiccup). The only two brands of ammo I've used are the bulk Federals and Remingtons purchased from Wal-Mart.

CampingJosh · 03-29-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Rez

Just have the one magazine that came with the firearm. Yes, there is a dent in the rim of the case during a failure to fire (the same round will then fire through my other 22). It will fail to fire randomly throughout the magazine (and sometimes it will go through the entire mag without a hiccup). The only two brands of ammo I've used are the bulk Federals and Remingtons purchased from Wal-Mart.

I've not had good luck with either of those options. Remington's rimfire ammo in particular has a terrible reputation.
I've had much better luck with the bulk Winchester and with CCI ammo

Maximilian II · 03-29-2010, 10:59 PM

My 10/22 has only had a half dozen failures in 29 years of service, far too many rounds fired to even estimate. Each time it failed I cleaned it. Yep I leave it dirty. I've only ever used the factory mag.
All fails were using Federal Lightnings. They foul the action terribly and I've had the exacr ftf you describe. May be a problem with primer quality?

The_Rifleman · 03-30-2010, 12:18 AM

I shoot 2 of them. The only time I have a problem with either, is when someone else "cleans" them.

Snakedriver · 03-30-2010, 08:12 AM

As I was reading through your post I was saying to myself, Uh-oh someone is using the cheap Remington Bulk crap!

Forget using Remington Golden Bullets in the bulk packs, they'll give you nothing but trouble. I have 5 - .22's, two of which are 10/22's, and none of them will digest the Remington crap. FTF's are about 10-15% and poor quality ignition is another 10% on top of that and forget about any accuracy from the ones that do fire normally. The FTE's and stovepiping are a result of poor and irregular ignition of the powder in the rounds.

Get yourself a Volquartsen Exact Edge Extractor for your 10/22, it's a $10 modification that will cure your gun of all extraction issues. It's a 5-minute upgrade, easily performed by even the most unskilled gun owner.

Federal 550 bulk packs from Walmart have worked quite well in all of our .22's. They aren't as accurate as say "match" ammo, but they are reliable.

ETA: Read the letter from Remington regarding their cheap crap ammo at the following link:

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/showthread.php?t=76074

It's incredible to me that Remington is aware of the problem, but does nothing to correct it.

E-Rez · 03-30-2010, 08:46 AM

I shoot the Federal bulk much more often than the Rems. Out of all my bolt 22s I noticed that the Rem bulk had trouble firing...some sounded so weak I was afraid the bullet didn't leave the barrel!

But a lot of the malfunctions with the Ruger are with the Feds.

I will look for that extractor.

wpage · 03-30-2010, 11:39 AM

B4 you go crazy try the better ammo route...

E-Rez · 03-30-2010, 02:28 PM

But if I install the $10 extractor would I be able to shoot the cheap ammo?

USMCSpeedy · 03-30-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Rez

But if I install the $10 extractor would I be able to shoot the cheap ammo?

Not necessarily. The poor quality ammo still may not fully slide the bolt back enough to properly eject. The extractor will help though to make sure the brass gets out after firing good ammo. My 10-22 likes CCI ammo best.

Snakedriver · 03-30-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Rez

But if I install the $10 extractor would I be able to shoot the cheap ammo?

The Volquartsen Exact Edge Extractor will fix the 10/22's tendency to stovepipe and most FTE's, but nothing can make up for crap ammo that doesn't have enough ignition to blow the bolt back far enough to eject the round out of the gun. I will say that since we installed the Volquartsen extractors in our 10/22's and quit using the Remington stuff we haven't had any more problems with any of the .22 ammo we have used including the other brands of bulk pack ammo like Federals and Winchesters.

shawnc · 04-03-2010, 05:50 PM

deffinatly stay away from the federal ammo i tried it 1 time and 1 time only and when i did i had alot of problems with ftf and the final insult was that one of the round went off in the chamber and blew the extractor off of my gun.

Old Grump · 04-03-2010, 06:53 PM

The money saved isn't worth the aggravation of trying to get through a box of so called Value Pack bullets. I shoot Remington Golden Bullet but in the boxes of 100. Only rarely do they not shoot and rarely do they fail to eject. The cheap stuff has been relegated to plinking duty out of revolver or single shot rifle. Lesson learned.

pawn · 04-03-2010, 07:21 PM

Ruger MKII/III Pistols and 10/22 rifle use the same extractor. They are notorious for being crappy and causing stove-pipes. IMHO, if you are getting stove-pipes it is not due to the ammo but instead the extractor.... it is letting go too soon.

Others have mentioned the exact edge extractor. That is excellent advise for your rifle. Make that modification and you can shoot about anything, that has been my experience with MKII and MKIII and also a 10/22. Enjoy your rifle.

Mark

Snakedriver · 04-03-2010, 07:22 PM

Yesterday was a beautiful day in SW. Florida, so I went to the range with my three .22 rifles to do some shooting. I took a new box of Federal 550 with me and managed to empty the box before I went home.

I was happy to see I was getting dime-sized 3-shot groups at 50 yards with all three guns. Both 10/22's I have are still using the standard tapered barrel. One 10/22 is from 1969 and is totally factory stock except for a VQ extractor and extended mag. release. The other 10/22 is a 2008 model s.s. All-Weather that has been played with a little.

Out of the 550 bulk-pack rounds I fired, not a single round failed to fire or eject. Not bad for Wally World cheap stuff.

pawn · 04-03-2010, 07:33 PM

That is a good time in my book

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Originally Posted by Snakedriver

Yesterday was a beautiful day in SW. Florida, so I went to the range with my three .22 rifles to do some shooting. I took a new box of Federal 550 with me and managed to empty the box before I went home.

I was happy to see I was getting dime-sized 3-shot groups at 50 yards with all three guns. Both 10/22's I have are still using the standard tapered barrel. One 10/22 is from 1969 and is totally factory stock except for a VQ extractor and extended mag. release. The other 10/22 is a 2008 model s.s. All-Weather that has been played with a little.

Out of the 550 bulk-pack rounds I fired, not a single round failed to fire or eject. Not bad for Wally World cheap stuff.

pawn · 04-03-2010, 07:37 PM

All rounds are supposed to go off in the chamber, that is the plan. Sounds like your chamber might be compromised, that can cause the blow-out condition you are describing.

What type of firearm are you shooting?

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Originally Posted by shawnc

deffinatly stay away from the federal ammo i tried it 1 time and 1 time only and when i did i had alot of problems with ftf and the final insult was that one of the round went off in the chamber and blew the extractor off of my gun.

03-29-2010, 06:26 PM	#1
E-Rez V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NW Wisconny Posts: 155	Ruger 10/22 Reliability I've been having some problems with my 10/22...The gun fails to fire (sometimes have to manually cycle up to four rounds to get it to fire), and occasionally doesn't fully eject the spent casing (gets pinched in the action). Is this normal on these fun little boom sticks? -->

03-29-2010, 07:36 PM	#2
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,669	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability no not common at all. How clean is it. Action and all, not just the barrel. The 10/22 is one of the most reliable 22 semi autos on the market. I have about 50K rounds through mine. Only time it ever runs into problems is when it needs a complete strip and cleaning. __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

03-29-2010, 07:41 PM	#3
E-Rez V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NW Wisconny Posts: 155	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability The thing is spotless...I'm very picky when it comes to cleaning guns. No gun ever goes more than a couple shooting sessions without a complete cleaning. The only thing I can think is maybe there's too much left-over oil in it.

03-29-2010, 07:55 PM	#4
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability numerous questions to ask,have you used a different mag and had same results,when you say ftf is there a dent is rim of case that looks indented enough to have fired,have you tried different ammo such as mini mags,etc,is the ftf on first round or anywhere during empting of mag.need more info to give you any idea how to fix old semperfi

03-29-2010, 08:31 PM	#5
E-Rez V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NW Wisconny Posts: 155	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability Just have the one magazine that came with the firearm. Yes, there is a dent in the rim of the case during a failure to fire (the same round will then fire through my other 22). It will fail to fire randomly throughout the magazine (and sometimes it will go through the entire mag without a hiccup). The only two brands of ammo I've used are the bulk Federals and Remingtons purchased from Wal-Mart.

03-29-2010, 10:59 PM	#7
Maximilian II Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northwest GA Posts: 1,385	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability My 10/22 has only had a half dozen failures in 29 years of service, far too many rounds fired to even estimate. Each time it failed I cleaned it. Yep I leave it dirty. I've only ever used the factory mag. All fails were using Federal Lightnings. They foul the action terribly and I've had the exacr ftf you describe. May be a problem with primer quality? __________________ Karma is just justice, without the satisfaction. And I don't believe in justice. -Joe Sarno, bagman.

03-30-2010, 12:18 AM	#8
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability I shoot 2 of them. The only time I have a problem with either, is when someone else "cleans" them. __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.

03-30-2010, 08:12 AM	#9
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability As I was reading through your post I was saying to myself, Uh-oh someone is using the cheap Remington Bulk crap! Forget using Remington Golden Bullets in the bulk packs, they'll give you nothing but trouble. I have 5 - .22's, two of which are 10/22's, and none of them will digest the Remington crap. FTF's are about 10-15% and poor quality ignition is another 10% on top of that and forget about any accuracy from the ones that do fire normally. The FTE's and stovepiping are a result of poor and irregular ignition of the powder in the rounds. Get yourself a Volquartsen Exact Edge Extractor for your 10/22, it's a $10 modification that will cure your gun of all extraction issues. It's a 5-minute upgrade, easily performed by even the most unskilled gun owner. Federal 550 bulk packs from Walmart have worked quite well in all of our .22's. They aren't as accurate as say "match" ammo, but they are reliable. ETA: Read the letter from Remington regarding their cheap crap ammo at the following link: http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/showthread.php?t=76074 It's incredible to me that Remington is aware of the problem, but does nothing to correct it. __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision Last edited by Snakedriver; 03-30-2010 at 10:33 AM..

03-30-2010, 08:46 AM	#10
E-Rez V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NW Wisconny Posts: 155	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability I shoot the Federal bulk much more often than the Rems. Out of all my bolt 22s I noticed that the Rem bulk had trouble firing...some sounded so weak I was afraid the bullet didn't leave the barrel! But a lot of the malfunctions with the Ruger are with the Feds. I will look for that extractor.

03-30-2010, 11:39 AM	#11
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability B4 you go crazy try the better ammo route... __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W

03-30-2010, 02:28 PM	#12
E-Rez V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NW Wisconny Posts: 155	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability But if I install the $10 extractor would I be able to shoot the cheap ammo?

04-03-2010, 05:50 PM	#15
shawnc Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability deffinatly stay away from the federal ammo i tried it 1 time and 1 time only and when i did i had alot of problems with ftf and the final insult was that one of the round went off in the chamber and blew the extractor off of my gun.

04-03-2010, 06:53 PM	#16
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,320	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability The money saved isn't worth the aggravation of trying to get through a box of so called Value Pack bullets. I shoot Remington Golden Bullet but in the boxes of 100. Only rarely do they not shoot and rarely do they fail to eject. The cheap stuff has been relegated to plinking duty out of revolver or single shot rifle. Lesson learned. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

04-03-2010, 07:21 PM	#17
pawn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Crossville, TN Posts: 1,469	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability Ruger MKII/III Pistols and 10/22 rifle use the same extractor. They are notorious for being crappy and causing stove-pipes. IMHO, if you are getting stove-pipes it is not due to the ammo but instead the extractor.... it is letting go too soon. Others have mentioned the exact edge extractor. That is excellent advise for your rifle. Make that modification and you can shoot about anything, that has been my experience with MKII and MKIII and also a 10/22. Enjoy your rifle. Mark __________________ Take care when you get information. The truth is generally seen, rarely heard. -Balthasar Gracian

04-03-2010, 07:22 PM	#18
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: Ruger 10/22 Reliability Yesterday was a beautiful day in SW. Florida, so I went to the range with my three .22 rifles to do some shooting. I took a new box of Federal 550 with me and managed to empty the box before I went home. I was happy to see I was getting dime-sized 3-shot groups at 50 yards with all three guns. Both 10/22's I have are still using the standard tapered barrel. One 10/22 is from 1969 and is totally factory stock except for a VQ extractor and extended mag. release. The other 10/22 is a 2008 model s.s. All-Weather that has been played with a little. Out of the 550 bulk-pack rounds I fired, not a single round failed to fire or eject. Not bad for Wally World cheap stuff. __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision