Poland president killed - The Firearms Forum

cycloneman · 04-10-2010, 08:09 AM

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article...sia%2F19434298

Do you buy what happened?

hogger129 · 04-10-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

Do you buy what happened?

Yeah. It says it was a 20-year old Soviet-made plane.

scudrunner · 04-10-2010, 09:43 AM

After three attempts to land in heavy fog and Russian ATC telling them to divert to another airfield Id say yes I buy it.

My bet is that on the third and final approach the PIC went below landing minimums and balled it up short of the runway. Guys do it all the time, sometimes it works and sometimes you die, they have minimums for a reason!

That’s my take on it from a professional pilots point of view.

lentz · 04-12-2010, 07:49 AM

Maybe hero "Sully" would landed it

Trouble 45-70 · 04-12-2010, 09:28 AM

Sully would have taken the alternate.

TU 154s have a less than stellar record but this looks like Pilot Error to me.

jim brady · 04-12-2010, 09:42 AM

Is it kind of FISHY that all those High-Level Poles were on that single airplane?. They had just left a cerimony for those THOUSANDS of Polish Army Officers who were murdered by the Russians in a single event, and on their way back to Poland.

Remember when Joe Stalin and Company blamed the dispicable Herr Adolph for the mass murder in Poland? Herr Adolph was a butcher, too, but Uncle Joe was right up there. Gave it the ole College try.

Knowing that OF COURSE These Days "Our Friends" in Moscow have turned over a NEW LEAF, they would never contemplate murder to cover up anything. That was something that ONLY happened a long time ago. Like back when Uncle Joe was boss. Now that Putin and his KGB friends own the show we are safe, Right?

Anyone who thinks the Russians are done with the ole Cold War needs to think again. They just added a few new graves to the old ones.

cycloneman · 04-12-2010, 05:21 PM

I know what I believe.

I will say only this, Putan is not a friend to .............

Whatever you believe Poland just got a clean house.

04-10-2010, 08:09 AM	#1
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,398	Poland president killed http://www.aolnews.com/world/article...sia%2F19434298 Do you buy what happened? __________________ Who are you going to serve today? -->

04-10-2010, 09:43 AM	#3
scudrunner V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 252	Re: Poland president killed After three attempts to land in heavy fog and Russian ATC telling them to divert to another airfield Id say yes I buy it. My bet is that on the third and final approach the PIC went below landing minimums and balled it up short of the runway. Guys do it all the time, sometimes it works and sometimes you die, they have minimums for a reason! That’s my take on it from a professional pilots point of view. __________________ HAVE A NICE DAY, DAMMIT!! When seconds count the police are only minutes away! The Number 1 Rule Of Any Gunfight.....HAVE A GUN!!

04-12-2010, 07:49 AM	#4
lentz Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 606	Re: Poland president killed Maybe hero "Sully" would landed it

04-12-2010, 09:28 AM	#5
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Poland president killed Sully would have taken the alternate. TU 154s have a less than stellar record but this looks like Pilot Error to me. __________________ Psalm 12 verse 8: The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted.

04-12-2010, 09:42 AM	#6
jim brady Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,072	Re: Poland president killed Is it kind of FISHY that all those High-Level Poles were on that single airplane?. They had just left a cerimony for those THOUSANDS of Polish Army Officers who were murdered by the Russians in a single event, and on their way back to Poland. Remember when Joe Stalin and Company blamed the dispicable Herr Adolph for the mass murder in Poland? Herr Adolph was a butcher, too, but Uncle Joe was right up there. Gave it the ole College try. Knowing that OF COURSE These Days "Our Friends" in Moscow have turned over a NEW LEAF, they would never contemplate murder to cover up anything. That was something that ONLY happened a long time ago. Like back when Uncle Joe was boss. Now that Putin and his KGB friends own the show we are safe, Right? Anyone who thinks the Russians are done with the ole Cold War needs to think again. They just added a few new graves to the old ones.

04-12-2010, 05:21 PM	#7
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,398	Re: Poland president killed I know what I believe. I will say only this, Putan is not a friend to ............. Whatever you believe Poland just got a clean house. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?