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Old 08-20-2006, 06:06 PM   #1
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Default Oh my daughter, oh my ducets! (Shylock)

Help me decide, guys and gals. I'm getting the itch to get myself another "project" rifle to recondition and shoot. The problem is, I can't make up my mind which one to order! Classic has some really nice looking Mauser 24/47s and they are very cheap and quite tempting. Alas, they also have some "NRA excellent" Mosin 44s that peak my interest and are even cheaper than the Mausers. And to top it all off, they also have some very nice looking, walnut-stocked K-31 Swiss rifles for sale that should refinish very nicely indeed. Input welcome!
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Old 08-20-2006, 06:55 PM   #2
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One of each!
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Old 08-20-2006, 09:27 PM   #3
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The M44 are really fun exspecially with the pig sticker but the Mauser and K-31 are nice too. I ain't much help am I
HE!! I am with SOMO order one of each
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:12 PM   #4
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I'll second the idea of getting one of each !!!!!
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:22 PM   #5
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Well, I think I've decided. I'm going to go with a walnut-stocked Swiss K-31, but from AIM instead of Classic. I think I will also order up a Mojo aperture sight for the rifle. My other K31 has a scope mounted, so it will be nice to have one with iron sights as well. I plan to lightly refinish the stock, touch up the bluing as needed, and otherwise leave it as is. If it shoots as well as my first K31 I will be well satisfied.
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:43 PM   #6
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We are defenitly gonna need pics
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:45 PM   #7
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If you can, get a St. Marie diopter rather than the Mojo. I know the Mojo is less expensive, but the St. Marie is SWEET. Clamp-on, too. Doesn't require tapping, drilling or any gunsmithing. Return-to-zero for the rear sight is a non-brainer. It's the front sight that takes some tweaking.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:21 AM   #8
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If you can, get a St. Marie diopter rather than the Mojo. I know the Mojo is less expensive, but the St. Marie is SWEET. Clamp-on, too. Doesn't require tapping, drilling or any gunsmithing. Return-to-zero for the rear sight is a non-brainer. It's the front sight that takes some tweaking.
John, I've heard of those, but never found a place that sells them. Do you know where they are available? I'd love to take a look. I generally prefer apeture irons on my rifles over scopes unless I plan on shooting at truly long range.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:49 AM   #9
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GRAFS

also sells the offset sniper scope mount copy...

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Old 08-22-2006, 10:29 PM   #10
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The St. Marie stuff isn't a copy of anything. The sniper scopes for the ZfK55 were clamp-on, yes, but they had a drilled and tapped set of mounts that the scope and rail-mount clamped to. See http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/sniper/ for details. The closest to a copy is the diopter, which is similar to, but not quite a copy of, the Type K diopter manufactured in Switzerland.

Grafs is the official distributor of the St. Marie line. They're also the best source for new brass, buying in bulk from Prvi Partizan. They used to have PP headstamp them "Grafs" but now they're just selling the PP stuff in bulk.
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:38 AM   #11
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Found them. Thanks, John. You're right, they're neat sights, but also rather expensive! Grafs does seem to have some neat stuff for the K-31s as well. I bookmarked the place for future reference.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:30 AM   #12
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An update, and thanks, JohnK3. You're close.
Our zfk55 mount is the first replacement mount for the zfk55 Sniper that allows the use of any scope in the world in lieu of the issue, integral Kern scope. The mount locks into the integral mount reciever thats actually a part of the manufactured receiver.







Our k31 Diopter is the first one in the world that goes from 75 yards to 1,000 yards with no rail changes whatsoever.
Our internal gear is now patented and is the only Diopter with a double buffer spring mechanism that allows full, smooth travel in all directions.





This is our k31 Clamp On Scope Mount.




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Old 04-05-2010, 03:56 PM   #13
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That looks very nice!
How accurate it it with that range differential?
After you have proved its worth please let us know how it works out long and short...
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:31 PM   #14
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Its already been proven at Quantico and is now in Swiss Sanctioned precision shooting matches both here in the US and at Canadian Swiss Sanctioned shoots.

In appreciation of his efforts, written report and factual runout, Mr. R.L. Steinberg, Distinguished Naval Marksman No 0-067

This was the report.
http://theswissriflesdotcommessagebo...com/topic/6990

Swiss Products does not sell to the public, only to one of 5 authorized distributors, two in the US and 3 in Europe.

www.swissproductsllc.com is our Info-Only website.

This was the intro of the new 1,000 yarder just before release last year.
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This was the steel prototype.



This is the production model.





It shoots from 75 yards to 1,000+ yards. It's eye relief adjustable at two points on the rail.
It has a Patent Applied For internal double buffer spring system to give it smooth travel the full elevation travel.

This is the Distinguished Naval Marksman who proofed the prototype.



This is production model #1 Type P/S Diopter in it's presentation case dedicated to him.







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No further testing is necessary, wpage. Its already proven itself in competition and with the new category at Camp Perry, you'll be seeing a number of them there this year.

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Old 04-14-2010, 05:02 PM   #15
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Thanks for the clarity zfk55,
Looks like a well crafted device. Thanks for your report!
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