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I am really getting sick of people comparing this administration to others. It cant be done. We are dealing with the very pits of hell. This is an evil force that is trouncing on our constitution and dismantling our very freedoms. Our childrens children are in grave danger. Our future as a superpower is at risk. The radical anti-americans that plotted to bomb us in the 60s are running the show. George Soros, the richest mob boss I know of calls most of the shots. Everything you see on the news is nothing more than a smoke screen to cover up what is really going on.
How much longer are we as americans going to just sit idle and watch our libertys be washed down the drain? To those of you who think this is an extreem outburst, well, I just suggest you dig a little deeper into whats really happening. I pray to God that he save us from this swift destruction. We are now borrowing almost 50 cents on every dollar we spend. We can not even make our interest payments now. Take off the blinders america! The sore is festering and is about to pop. Its time to pray like you mean it......
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I fear you are right, Dan. I also believe Americans are waking up and starting to pay more attention. The states are bringing legislation to fight his 'health care' bill. Hopefully this year, we will remove many of his cohorts and them dispose of him in '12'.
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Too late. All that's left to do is suffer through the consequences.
BTW, there were previous administrations, from both sides, that have lent to this crisis - that have set the framework, that the present admin is fleshing out. NONE of them are beyond guilt. NONE. ![]()
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Yes, there will be many false reports and such to attempt to scare us and provoke us to violence. They know where that leads to. They were all violent and anti-american radicals in their younger days. Now they have learned that the violence doesnt work. They figured out that they had to take over and control the government and now anyone who apposes them will be labeled racists and radical extreemists. They know how to push the buttons. A couple of weeks ago I said that we would vote them all out in 10 & 12 and I even said you could "mark my words" That was then and this is now. Im not so sure now. The more I learn the more I see the larger picture. Wake up america!! The enemy is now in control. Get ready!!!
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Anyone think Obama is worse than Nixon?
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Anyone think Obama is worse than Carter?
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Between the 3 of them I could vote for Nixon again but not the other two and the choices would have to be really slim before I would vote either Republican or Democrat.
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They all look like saints compared...
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ask this ( so i can dodge the US political history part... )
have you ever had such a sellout to foreign powers before ? have you ever had anyone as president so bent on destroying the constitution and your rights ? have you ever had someone in power that gives illegal immigrants more resources than his own people? have you ever had such a pro muslim , pro big bank , anti American in office before ?? when you answer these questions and realise the significance of the questions the foibles and weakness of the others pales against what this current bozo has done and is doing right now bend over and have your Vaseline ready , here comes BO BO Last edited by jack404; 05-03-2010 at 06:54 PM.. |
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BoBo Obambabababa is already here and he's outlawed the Vaseline
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Your right Double D, this has been going on for some 40 years now and i can't belive it has taken the american people this long to open there eyes to what is going on.
George soros and others have been working at bring this country down for some time now. And if things don't turn around in Nov. I don't see any reson for any more trying to talk this out. This can only go on if WE the american people let it ! |
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Hogger, with all due respect, you can not compare this president to any other. Its not the same animal. I wouldnt want those others you mentioned, but, they pale in comparison. We are not dealing with "just another president" No sir, we are dealing with a radical anti-american evil force that wants to bring america to its knees. This is not some comparison on policy to policy. This is the difference between freedom and captivity. Capitalism and communism. This is an anti-american socialism driven group that wants to strip us of our freedoms and control every aspect of our lives.
No sir, this is no longer a republican to democrat debate. This my friends is a battle for our freedoms. To keep what our fighting men and women have died for. This is about protecting our constitution. This is about your childrens and your grandchildrens future. Yes, it is all at risk. From our right to bear arms down to the smallest of rights. It is a force that will not be easily defeated, but we MUST join together and defeat it! We must! We can no longer stand by and hope it will change. We must change it! God help us. P.S. Obama is much, much, much, worse than ANY previous president and probably any to come.
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same circus......different clowns
as long as folks have their ipods, cell phones, multiple credit cards..........we are all happy in the "its all about me" world today. closer to the true.........soceity is weak and clueless. will we wake up and take back what was ours............."government of the people, by the people, for the people"..........not on the road everyone is traveling today.
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I was raised by questioning, "What's in it for me?" That's always a good test of another persons intentions. I simply can't believe even the greediest, egotistical, crookedest politician would knowingly try to bring about the downfall of America. Unless they all believed they would remain in power and in control for the rest of their lives, what would be in it for them? The downfall of America would undoubtedly be followed by the downfall of the U.S. dollar and unless most of the politicians are investing heavily in gold or diamonds or some other such scarce and valuable materials, what would they hope to gain? While I am convinced that Obama is patently crooked ( being a product of Illinois politics ) I think much of what he is trying to accomplish is more of an ego thing, something he will be long remembered for( good or bad ). What scares me the most is that the majority of Americans seem to be living their lives as if they were on a national reality show, that is not a genuine version of reality, much like reality shows presented on TV. For whatever reasons, they have put misplaced value on the thought and opinions of TV and Hollywood stars, who in reality have made messes of their own lives and never had an original thought. In any case, it is, I believe, a vastly more complicated problem with no simple answers. While I am a firm believer in capitalism, I think today, we have too many people with more money than brains.
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AHH, it seems like there would be no reason for them to want to bring down america......Well, its ok for you to feel that way. There are many reasons they want to bring this country down. George Soros for one is raking in billions of dollars every year betting against our economy. He is winning. There is a plan in action to bring things to the brink and then take control of them. This is bigger than any one person. The gov. now has control of the health system, the auto industry, the education system, they are doing the largest land grab in history, they are putting limits on how much money people make, they desire to control our guns, our children, raise our taxes, impose cap and trade which will cause energy prices to skyrocket and big corporations to fail left and right, raise the cost of gasoline several dollars a gallon, also put the coal industry out of business. They have made it nearly impossible for the little guy to have a successfull business by taxing them out of business while they control all of the banks and lending institutions including the most crooked fannie and freddie.
Would you like me to go on? Because I can. Our very libertys are being sqaushed by these left wing lunatics that are injecting gay rights into our schools and workplaces and pushing God completely out of the picture. Its serious folks. Its even worse than I am trying to get across here. These people want this capitalistic society to collapse and they intend to restart it with them in total control. Ask our aussie buddy Jack here. He knows I am right. But its up to us to change it. We must change it.
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Our government was set up after many long hot dusty hours of debate where every word and punctuation was argued over for hours. The final result was a compromise supposedly set in stone. The dismantling began right after George Washington turned down a 3rd term. The establishment of the Fed, The establishment of a permanent standing army. Jumping to the Civil war when Congress wasn't in session, Lincoln assumed all powers not delegated in the Constitution, including the power to suspend habeas corpus. In 1861, Lincoln had already suspended civil law in territories where resistance to the North's military power would be dangerous.
It goes on and on, every little chip knocked off the constitution done for our good. War Powers Act among the most egregious. Constitution specifally spells out that only Congress can declare a war. They side stepped it and since Korea that has not been a declared war but a lot of American blood has been spilled in these 'not wars', and some of us are way past fed up. Rant away, I'll match you rant for rant then I'll will go outside and shoot a gun to get over it. Well not over it but at least it lowers my blood pressure with fewer side effects and its more fun than medication.
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Well, I pray that everyone will dig a little deeper to see what I am saying. This is not inline with what all other administrations have done. Its not a chiseling away. Its an outright power grab. Its a plan that the socialists and communists have had in the works for years, while waiting to gain power. This is not any sort of arguement with anyone here. This is a fed up rant that is slap full of truths and opinion. They want that smoke screen to remain in place that makes everyone think its just more of the same.
There are plans in the works for concentration camps and a civilian force that is as well trained and as well funded as our military that is designed to report directly to the white house. Those words came directly from this socialist leader they call our president. Everyone can shrug it off and keep thinking nothing like that could happen if they want. I just am not going to join you. We are now under control of an anti-american socialist power. Plain and simple.
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DD,
All I can say, is you speak the truth. If the sheeple don't wake, the next generation will be speaking Spanglish and all be employed by Fedzilla, drive government mandated gutless cars (no more trucks or SUV's) to horrible jobs, get paid a lousy salary with "free" health care, not be able to smoke tobacco (outlawed in 2011 by Director Obama after declaring mar.tial law), not be allowed to eat fried foods, told where they can vacation (only 1 state line away from home for now), not allowed to hunt and eat wild game (no more guns in honest citizens hands and all game belongs to Fedzilla), no more property rights because all property was deemed to be controlled by Fedzilla, you still get to pay rent on what used to be your house plus monthly maintenance fees, all grocery stores are now run by the Federal Food Control Authority and nothing is sold that is bad for you, while all home cleaning supplies, energy manufacture as well as energy consumption is to be 100% green, and now since your pets can sue you, pets are heavily regulated reminiscent of gun ownership in 2010, and well, you get the picture. Is this what you want? If not, start waking up you family and neighbors, because it's surely what Obozo has in mind for us. He wants us to become another CUBA, but worse.
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I don't think that it will be even that free.
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obama is a gigantic flaming hypocrite, he smokes.
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Oh wow, a few minutes after I wrote this, a stranger knocked on my door with a clipboard in his hand......
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It's cause "they got nuthin'". And I mean NOTHING. See they're communists and want to be the guys in the black cars...shoot the only cars...while the rest of us go to the factories in denim blue sack cloth. Every idea they come up with the American People don't like and they do knee jerk in a rrrreeeeallly bad way. And then imbaciles like Napalitano come on tv and all it takes is her opening her mouth and The People call BS., then someone has to come out and correct her, but they have to huddle for days to figure out what stance they want to take...cause see...they got nuthin, they don't get the free market and capitolism, cause they've been livin' off my a$$ all their lives! Well, maybe not Janet, my mom and dad probably were supporting her, then my sister had to chip in before me.
The charade amazes me...I mean, I can't believe they aren't scared...crap I would be, course you have to be cognizant first. I mean it's sssooo bad in the day of media. You know other people are just laughing and shaking their heads at us. I don't want The People to get like Greece though. That's nuts, they're broke and the people are still screaming for pension payments? Maybe if you woulda icksnayed that gov't entitlement way back, you wouldn't be broke now...just sayin' is all. - Hey, shouldn't the UN be helping with that? ![]() Sigh, breath...yeah, I know...soap box. ![]()
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I sure would like to just have them take MacDaddy and his B to the room and say "watch the screen sir, it's time for you to pack" ![]()
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A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence Last edited by navis128; 05-05-2010 at 06:51 PM.. |
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We've had plenty of time to prepare for what's coming though.
Are you ready? We're not reversing this downward spiral. The cake is baked, as they say. You MUST have a year or more worth of food and water on hand - and the ability to grow more / collect and filter water. You MUST have precious metals / cash on hand. You MUST have the ability to defend yourself - ammo IS cheap, I don't care what others may say - if you can still buy ammo at any price, it's affordable. Stock up. There are so many other things to say and do. Get out of debt. Save. Live simpler. Trying to move to a less populated area and start over is too hard, I think, at this point. That opportunity is gone, thanks to the job market being in upheaval. Prepare. NOW! There is still time left, although, not much, I believe. I don't think what's coming is going to be a bump in the road. ![]()
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I know we cant go to the gate and get anything done. But we must scream it from the rooftops and get everyone we know involved and continuously push people to become aware and make certain they go vote. We must support organizations that are doing all they can. We must continue to call and write and e-mail our senators and reps. I think you get the picture. We have a duty to perform and we cant stand by idol. If we cant vote them out then there will be much much more for us to do..........
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