Old .22 Rifles

[viking03a]

I have recently aquired a colt 22 lightning in pretty good condition, but in stripping it down, found that the cartridge stop arm is broken on the front end which stops the cartridge. I am a gun smith, and have a machine shop, and will make a new part, but need a photo of this part, as the broken peice is missing. Or will purchase a new part if I can find a source, but would rather repair the origional part.
This colt is browned on outside, but find blued areas under parts where if it was refinished at one time, they never took apart to refinish. Is this old rifle suposed to be browned, or blued, as the bluing appears to be origional. I have seen a number of posts saying it was origionally browned, but my physical inspection does not see this on this rifle.
Thanks
viking

[FloridaFialaFan]

NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Although I enjoy all of the "Little Boys' Rifles," I'm especially partial to the oddball types. This is one of my favorites, one of the "skeleton stocked" rifles. An early ad for it in the 1904 Sears catalog lists it at $3.60. A box of 50 LR ammo for it at that time was just 18 cents.

This QUACKENBUSH JUNIOR was first patented in 1890 but not put into production until 1899. Production ended in 1908 due to poor sales. I've not been able to learn of a total number made during that nine-year run.

Would make a good backpack rifle. Weighs only 4 lbs., barreled action comes off the stock quickly with one takedown bolt. Longest piece is only 20", and uses .22rf S-L-LR.

Best regards ~ ~ ~ FFF

[FloridaFialaFan]

Next in the "skeleton" stock style of old .22s is this FIREARMS INTERNATIONAL CORP. (FIC, NOT FIE) .22rf single-shot. This is their takedown model. Despite rumors to the contrary, these were manufactured in the USA and NOT in Italy.





When rights to this design were sold to GARCIA (yes, the fishing tackle folks), they named the gun BRONCO. Nowdays, the several similar rifles and shotguns which look like this are incorrectly being called "BRONCO."

Next to fail at successfully marketing this design was BAUER FIREARMS CORP. of Fraser, Michigan who named their gun RABBIT. Unfortunately I've not found one of either of these latter two brands for my collection . . . yet!



Best regards ~ ~ ~ FFF

My favorite mixed metaphor: He's marching to a different kettle of fish.

[susanherna]

I need a rear sight for aRemington 582. Any idea where to get one. Numrich is sol out.

[woolleyworm]

Originally Posted by susanherna

I need a rear sight for aRemington 582. Any idea where to get one. Numrich is sol out.

call Bobs and see what he's got avail :

http://www.gun-parts.com/remington22rifle/

Do you need just the sight or the base too?

BrandX may have the sight also, just gotta keep searching until someone posts one.

http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/service/ - link to Rem Society someone on the list may have one or be able to direct you to it.

[JerseyCooner]

While GOOGLEing 'Model 56C' I found this site. Saw wingspar's Stevens Model 56C. Here is my dad's. His future brother in law took him to SEARS when he turned 14 - 1937 - and bought him a single shot .22 rifle ($7.00). When they got home and opened the box they found the stock was cracked. When they returned it, the store didn't have any more so the salesman gave them the 56C. After Dad passed I cleaned up the rifle and added a scope. No mounts available but found the mount for a shotgun. The mounting holes lined up. Had to do a little bending but got it installed parallel to the barrel. I's sited in for 85 yards using Remington Yellow Jackets - good for groundhogs here in Jersey. The clip was a little worn so I sent away and got a NOS replacement.

[gdmoody]

Welcome to the forum, JerseyCooner. That is a good looking rifle and a great story. I don't how I missed this thread when it first came around. I have an old Mossberg 42M-B that my Father gave me when I was about 10 years old. It has taken quite a few squirrels and rabbits over the last 50 years.

[Crusty]

Since I'm new to this forum and could be considered in the "old" group thought I would put my two cents in. I also have a couple of .22's, on is a Remington 512 that just does not want to work, and the other is a Remington improved model 6. I have not shot the 6 yet but have it ready to go. I just like the older stuff. My main hunting rifle is a Lyman flintlock. Skeet gun is a Remington 17 in .20 g.

[StoneChimney]

I just picked up an absolutely flawless Remington Nylon 66 Apache Black at the Dallas gun show. This is literally 99% plus. Will get pics up when I get back from SHOT.

[flintlockmdj]

Mike, I have a Hamilton like the one you pictured at the first of this article. Where can I find a triggerguard as mine is broken behind the trigger bow and a templatem for the stock

[woolleyworm]

Originally Posted by Charlie the sniper

My BSA 12/15 Martini action, single shot.
This rifle was in a poor condition, but I spent some time, giving her some TLC.

Beautiful ! TLC was well worth it.

[marlin795]

Originally Posted by grampawmike

I like .22 rifles. I like OLD .22 rifles. OK, I'm old, by many people's standards. I'm opinionated. I think a .22 rifle should look like a .22 rifle......not a duded up facsimile of a military combat weapon. My favorites are boy's rifles (not to be confused with a "Boyes", rifle), you know(?), those little, initially inexpensive, single shot .22's that were common around the turn of the century.......that's 1899 to the 20th century, ie. 1900.....up until around the 1920's. I restore them, bring them back to life. Here are a few pics my latest acquisition, a Hamilton. Originally it sold for $1.50 or so. As you see, when I get them they are a little worse for wear, but I clean them up and shoot them. BUT (to me) there is nothing better than to see a 7,8,or 9 year old child shoot a gun of THEIR size, a gun around 100 years older than they are, that they learn to hit their target with, then see their smile (grin) of satisfaction. This will be as good as new when done, as the enclosed pics show of a few others I have done. The first of these is a Stevens #14 1/2 - "Little Scout"; the second a Winchester Model 1902, before and after. Mike

Have a 1907 little scout too. Mine was my inheritance from my grandfather before he passed.

[flintlock]

I'm lucky enough to have a Savage 23A sporter, .22LR, that is a tack driver. But magazines are scarce and expensive. I also have a Savage Mod. 1911, .22 short, that has a 20 round capacity tubular mag., that runs through the butt. Also a very accurate little rifle.

[flintlockmdj]

Hello to viking03a in Jasper Ga from flintlockmdj in Milledgeville Ga. I don't know how experienced you are with guns so if this sounds elementary please forgive me. The metal under the wood on the stock is pretty well protected from the elements so it tends not to gain the patina that the exposed parts would acquire over a period of time.
Thus the two tone finish. I have a nice little Iver Johnson 28 gauge single shot that was made in the 60's that has a nice brown patina on the exposed metal and a nice blue under the forearm. I will admit that to the best of my memory I have never seen a Colt lightening up close and personal but I would be very surprised to find that one was factory browned. I build muzzle loading rifles and to do a proper brown job as I would expect from colt is a time and labor intensive job, much to intensive for a production gun, although I could be wrong. If you would like you can email me at flintlockmdj@yahoo.com.

[Rocketman1]

I have a Savage Arms, Model 1909, with a 5 round magazine. That thing is a blast to shoot. It was originaly my fathers gun. He has slash marks on the stock idicating the number of rabbits he shot with it.

Recently I have been having trouble with the magazine. When you slide it in, it will go into far, not allowing it to chamber a round. You have to play with it to get it set just right, and then it will chamber. I'm not sure what is wrong with it, it seems that something may just be worn out. Any ideas?

[fordtrucksforever]

Originally Posted by StoneChimney

I just picked up an absolutely flawless Remington Nylon 66 Apache Black at the Dallas gun show. This is literally 99% plus. Will get pics up when I get back from SHOT.

I walked by that rifle several times, refusing to pick it up. It isnt the type of 22 I am partial to, but one model I dont have yet.

[fordtrucksforever]

Originally Posted by flintlock

I'm lucky enough to have a Savage 23A sporter, .22LR, that is a tack driver. But magazines are scarce and expensive. I also have a Savage Mod. 1911, .22 short, that has a 20 round capacity tubular mag., that runs through the butt. Also a very accurate little rifle.

I am glad to hear the Savage 23A is an accurate rifle as I have heard before. Found a nice one at the Dallas show. Also picked up a Savage 19 Target in less than pristine condition. Basically a gunsmith special. I really think thats being polite. My plans are modify the trigger guard so the newer style curved magazine will work that fits the model of 1933 version of this rifle. I have an original for the 23A, and hope the Triple K replacements are good enough to use, so I can have some extras. The original sits 0.035" lower than will feed consistently. Looks like I can add some metal to slot in the rear mag retainer. If this works, I will be headed out to drive in some tacks...

[doubs43]

This is my Remington Model 33 made in 1932. I refinished the stock. Except for the globe front sight which I've since replaced with the correct blade sight, it's identical to the first .22 rifle I was allowed to shoot unsupervised. The target was shot with it at 50 yards.

[Rob wilts]

I have a Hamilton rifle just like the one you have! I have been trying to restore it and get it in working condition again. When I retreived it from my grandfathers basement the barrel was leaded in so a cleaning rod wouldn't go through it. I have everything cleaned and restored but it still will not fire. The firing pin strikes the rim of the shell but the shells don't fire. Any suggestions on what my problem might be? As you know the firing pin strikes the shell with the extractor as the anchor and it is solid and doesn't move. I am at a loss to why it won't fire?

[oldfartrr]

have a soft spot in my heart (or head )for old 22 rifles, maybe cause thats what i started out with,,as did many others.
i have aquired a few over the years,, most have been just deals i couldnt pass up,,,or even given to me cause they didnt work (usually just a good cleaning) then they turned into something i just couldnt part with . however it made it convenient to always have something around to fit a new shooter. also for great fun with the grandkids, everyone had a gun, no stopping to let one cool down when u have 4 or 5 waiting their turn.

[oldfartrr]

Originally Posted by Rob wilts

I have a Hamilton rifle just like the one you have! I have been trying to restore it and get it in working condition again. When I retreived it from my grandfathers basement the barrel was leaded in so a cleaning rod wouldn't go through it. I have everything cleaned and restored but it still will not fire. The firing pin strikes the rim of the shell but the shells don't fire. Any suggestions on what my problem might be? As you know the firing pin strikes the shell with the extractor as the anchor and it is solid and doesn't move. I am at a loss to why it won't fire?

could u post a pic of the strike on a cartridge ?? does the fireing pin leave a heavey mark or very light mark,,,is the fireing pin too short (with age some times they get worn or "someone has fixed it by sharpening it" and it doesnt hit properly.
not familiar with how this rifle works, looks like the hammer strikes a pin ?? TOO much oil could slow the pin so that it doesnt have enough energy to fire the cartridge. attached are pics of strikes,, top cartridge didnt fire,, bottom didnt fire on first strike,,, after adjusting the shank of the pin (was very worn, a bit of file work to lengthen the travel) the second striike fired. before the adjustment it would only fire 2 out of 10,,after adjustment it fired with out fail ( 2 boxes stated by the owner )

[tebrady102]

Hello granpawmike.Iam new to the fourm i am an old beat up fart looking to find a magazine for a 22 short batavia or febiger.I want to leave this gun to my son complete hopefully before i meet my maker.any help you wise gents could give would be greatly appreciated.have been looking to buy one for a while will pay top dollar.Thank you T E Brady

[Hawg]

My oldest 22 rifle is a Savage/Stevens 87B. It needs a new stock tho.

[Albtraum]

wow i really like those old bolt action remington and winchesters

[snipin101]

It is hard to beet old .22 rifles