Iver Johnson .410 shotgun - The Firearms Forum

floridareenactor · 06-03-2010, 09:42 PM

My uncle passed away and I was given his Iver Johnson Champion single shot
.410 shotgun. The shotgun is marked with the "Cycle Works" and has the serial number 19469xf. I have done research that leads me to believe this was manufactured on or before 1916, but I am not sure. Can anyone help me find out the age of the shotgun? Thanks much.

James Morgan

b.goforth · 06-05-2010, 02:10 PM

iver johnson champion single barrel shotguns with two letter suffix in the serial number were made between 1930 and 1939. for now this is about as close to a manufacture date as i can give. this should make this 410 built on the standard size frame of the model 36.

CHAMPION MODEL 36-------------------------------------1909-1922
Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, and 20; barrel length: 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; American black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; case hardened receiver (nickel available as option), browned barrel; automatic ejectors extra cost option; .410 bore, 24 and 28 gauges offered in 1913; 24 gauge dropped 1928; all gauges except 12 dropped after 1941; name changed to Champion single Barrel in 1917.
CHAMPION SINGLE BARREL------------------------------1923-1978
This is the same gun as the earlier Model 36 champion except that the smaller gauges are now built on the same frame as the large gagues. See above picture for specifications. The exact year production stopped has not yet been determined. Some of these single barrel shotguns have been seen with Canadian marking, these were most likely shipped to Canada and then marked as there is no evidence that Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works ever had a manufacturing factory in Canada
VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$95
Add 15% for 24, 28 gauges
bill

Imonurteam · 09-26-2010, 11:15 AM

Yet another IJ 410 question. I've searched the forums here and else where and can't seem to find info on my paticular gun. Here's my details.

Champion
Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works
Fitchburg Mass. U.S.A.

.410 Bore-Full Choke-Barrel and Lug Forged In One

Butt Plate has Iver Johnson with an owl below it.

Serial Number: UUFG

No other markings on the gun.

Just curious as to manufacture date. Thanks in advance.

b.goforth · 09-26-2010, 11:27 AM

champion single barrel shotguns with all letters in the serial number (like this one ) were made in the 1940' and until about 1956.

see above post for values.

the 410 gauge was added to the standard size frame about 1913 or 1916. since its been awhole sinse i posted what the letters mean i will do so now. they are based on the word FITCHBURG each letter is used instead of a number.
your gun with the letters UUFG would translate to 7719.
F=1
I=2
T=3
C=4
H=5
B=6
U=7
R=8
G=9
X=0

another use of letters code that seem to help identify is how many letter suffuxes there are:
no letter suffixes= 1909-1919
one letter suffix= 1920-1929
two letter suffix= 1930-1939
all letters= 1940-1956
unknown= 1971-1975

bill

Imonurteam · 09-26-2010, 12:38 PM

Wow. Thanks for the super fast response. Any other details you know on this gun?

06-03-2010, 09:42 PM	#1
floridareenactor Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1	Iver Johnson .410 shotgun My uncle passed away and I was given his Iver Johnson Champion single shot .410 shotgun. The shotgun is marked with the "Cycle Works" and has the serial number 19469xf. I have done research that leads me to believe this was manufactured on or before 1916, but I am not sure. Can anyone help me find out the age of the shotgun? Thanks much. James Morgan -->

06-05-2010, 02:10 PM	#2
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Iver Johnson .410 shotgun iver johnson champion single barrel shotguns with two letter suffix in the serial number were made between 1930 and 1939. for now this is about as close to a manufacture date as i can give. this should make this 410 built on the standard size frame of the model 36. CHAMPION MODEL 36-------------------------------------1909-1922 Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, and 20; barrel length: 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; American black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; case hardened receiver (nickel available as option), browned barrel; automatic ejectors extra cost option; .410 bore, 24 and 28 gauges offered in 1913; 24 gauge dropped 1928; all gauges except 12 dropped after 1941; name changed to Champion single Barrel in 1917. CHAMPION SINGLE BARREL------------------------------1923-1978 This is the same gun as the earlier Model 36 champion except that the smaller gauges are now built on the same frame as the large gagues. See above picture for specifications. The exact year production stopped has not yet been determined. Some of these single barrel shotguns have been seen with Canadian marking, these were most likely shipped to Canada and then marked as there is no evidence that Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works ever had a manufacturing factory in Canada VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$95 Add 15% for 24, 28 gauges bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com

09-26-2010, 11:15 AM	#3
Imonurteam Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2	Re: Iver Johnson .410 shotgun Yet another IJ 410 question. I've searched the forums here and else where and can't seem to find info on my paticular gun. Here's my details. Champion Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works Fitchburg Mass. U.S.A. .410 Bore-Full Choke-Barrel and Lug Forged In One Butt Plate has Iver Johnson with an owl below it. Serial Number: UUFG No other markings on the gun. Just curious as to manufacture date. Thanks in advance. Last edited by Imonurteam; 09-26-2010 at 11:19 AM.. Reason: typo add info

09-26-2010, 11:27 AM	#4
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Iver Johnson .410 shotgun champion single barrel shotguns with all letters in the serial number (like this one ) were made in the 1940' and until about 1956. see above post for values. the 410 gauge was added to the standard size frame about 1913 or 1916. since its been awhole sinse i posted what the letters mean i will do so now. they are based on the word FITCHBURG each letter is used instead of a number. your gun with the letters UUFG would translate to 7719. F=1 I=2 T=3 C=4 H=5 B=6 U=7 R=8 G=9 X=0 another use of letters code that seem to help identify is how many letter suffuxes there are: no letter suffixes= 1909-1919 one letter suffix= 1920-1929 two letter suffix= 1930-1939 all letters= 1940-1956 unknown= 1971-1975 bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com Last edited by b.goforth; 09-26-2010 at 11:40 AM..

09-26-2010, 12:38 PM	#5
Imonurteam Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2	Re: Iver Johnson .410 shotgun Wow. Thanks for the super fast response. Any other details you know on this gun?