Gen. McChrysta out, Gen. Petraeus in!!

[199er]

Just announced by Fox News David Petraeus will take over for Gen. Stanley McChrystal as the top commander in Afghanistan.

http://www.foxnews.com/

[wpage]

Patraeus did not look happy.

[jim brady]

wpage -would YOU look happy if you were ordered to work for Obama? General McCrystal is certainly a fine officer who is going to be sacrificed on the Liberal altar of failure.

Obama has had Bush to blame for his own failures up till now, and when his inept political cronies finally hand our military a complete disaster, our fine young kids will get the blame for Obama's weak-kneed political failure - just like the Liberals did to us troops from Nam. Only this time it will be General McCrystal who will be the poster child for us not winning militarily.

Maybe next election Obama's slogan will turn from "CHANGE" to "NOT MY FAULT".

[199er]

Patraeus did not look happy

I remember that look too......and brings to mind the Army 'acronym'........

FIGMO !! which means........(f#@& I Got My Orders).

[cycloneman]

No he is not going to look happy. How would you like it if you knew you were going to be written in the history books as a failure. The man has no hope.

edit: wait wait wait,,,,,,,,,, he knows where hope is. It's with the change at the bottom of the barrel, I ment toilet.

[Bobitis]

No. He didn't look happy. But the anger on Obombas face was priceless!

Question......

If Petraeus was known as General Betrayus under the Bush Admin, what does that make him now?

Just curious...

[seward]

Concept of "chain of command" is pretty basic & clear.
That Mick boy harmed the war effort........national security & etc.........dunno ef he's crazy or what?

[Bobitis]

Mick boy?

Welcome back seward. I've missed your insightful comments.

[seward]

Yeah what don't you understand about "chain of command?"

[Bobitis]

Orders that prolong the conflict.

[Terry_P]

So now Obama can put his stamp on how to lose the war. How long before he runs the white flag up the pole? The worst comments came from McChrystal's staff and not him although allowing a writer from the Rolling Stone to inbed was the poor decision that cost him his military career.

The only good to come out of this is Petraeus. He is good I just don't know if he can work miracles with Obozo calling the shots. I shudder to think how much the radical muslim world will be emboldened when we turn tail an run from Afghanistan.

[45nut]

IF Obozo had acted this fast with the f'n oil spill, it would be over by now.

[jim brady]

Bravo, 45nut!!!! Well said! I guess I just don't get what General McChrystal did that was so wrong or 'harmful to National Security'. I understand that he made a comment to an aide that the President looked uncomfortable in their meeting. That's not exactly trashing the Commander In Chief. Is Obama supposed to be God-Like and beyond mortal human interaction?

I do understand that someone in the General's Staff made inappropriate comments concerning the Vice President, and that person should have been punished. The major poor judgement displayed by the General was to grant the Rolling Stone staff any time at all.

Despite the opinion of our Liberal (Socialist/Elitist) Leaders, our military is chock-full of exceptionally talented leaders. A change of command should not have a negative impact on the troops in the field. The only negative thing likely to come is an emboldment of the cut and run crowd to shout for our surrender, tuck tail and run.

[Airdale]

Kinda hard to feel bad for the "Fired One" when he voted for the "Chosen One".
What kind of judgement was that?

[red14]

Politics as usual.

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell062410.php3

[artabr]

Originally Posted by Airdale

Kinda hard to feel bad for the "Fired One" when he voted for the "Chosen One".
What kind of judgement was that?

Well said, Airdale. I guess McChrystal got the "change" that he hoped for when he voted for the fly-lipped one.




Funny how quickly a fly can find B.S.




Art

[Bobitis]

I respect both Generals.
McChrystal should have kept his words for a private audience. I doubt the potus would have cut him much more slack even then. You just can't argue with narcissism.

I've never seen the One act so quickly in any matter.
Percieved personal attacks appear much more important than the state of the union.

[seward]

"Chain of command" isn't at all a personal concept.

It's very basic & necessary to properly functioning military within a "democracy."
Pretty important even within military dictatorships and other forms of government.

"Narcissism" is best defined as personality disorder.....word is over used and perhaps widely misunderstood........

[lentz]

I applaud McChrystal! I wish he had called a press conference and told how he felt.Petraeus should do the same. We haven't won a war in 60 years.
Nuke the bastards and go home!

[Old Grump]

McChrystal was and is a professional soldier but he was also a supporter of Obama from the beginning. To late he grew a pair of nuts and to late he spouted off. Strictly speaking he shouldn't have done it but on the other hand it may get him on a political ticket somewhere. Being a bit hot headed myself and also not being a dummy I can understand what and why he did it even if he shouldn't have.

Being a General and having to answer to Congress and work for slugs like the commies around Obama is making flag rank rather unappealing. I think I would rather just stay a Colonel.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by seward

"Narcissism" is best defined as personality disorder.....word is over used and perhaps widely misunderstood........

Definition
By Mayo Clinic staff

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.


Looks to be the perfect description. Or am I missing something?

Chain of command? I agree that it must be followed. UNTIL you are issued an unlawful order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley

I find it disturbing that those that issue these orders get swept aside, while those that follow them are prosecuted. It's all too convenient for the top brass to get a pass at the soldiers expense.

The Commander in Chief is exactly that. The current one has ZERO military experience. The closest he can get is selling lemonaide on a street corner in Chicago. Instead of taking one for the team from McChrystal, he sacked him.

Definition
By Mayo Clinic staff

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

[Terry_P]

Charles Krauthammer said it best when he said "the narcissism of the man is unbounded".

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911160065